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KOSC Presents: Diego Del Llano Growables - 2017 Pack One

Introduction

This is set of growable, high-density lots made from Diego Del Llano's BATs that were released in 2017. The objective of this set is to provide growable alternatives to the ploppable landmarks in the original release for a more traditional gaming experience. While ploppable are amazing in their own right, it doesn't quite allow for one to experience the feeling of zoning a plot and having that shiny new tower pop up.

Package Overview

4/14 IMPORTANT NOTE - this file currently only works with the DarkNite versions, and NOT MaxisNite - an update will be rolled out soon to accomodate the MaxisNite buildings

Included in the following package are a set of growables for all Diego Del Llano's 2017 releases (excluding the Loop Postal Station building in the Federal Center Chicago set). A couple of the buildings have different occupant versions to satisfy different demand groups.

There are TWO versions of the package you can download: Vanilla and CAMThe vanilla version has all of the larger buildings capped at stage 8, with capacities that do not exceed 7500. For those that use the Colossus Addon Mod, the larger buildings extend all the way up to stage 15 and boast much higher capacities, up to around 11000.

If you desire to plop the growables, use the buildingPlop cheat and look for exemplars starting at DiegoDL_ (requires ExtraCheats.dll).

General Stats

All stats were generated with PIM-X. Vanilla versions differ only in growth stage and maximum capacity tweaks (for buildings that exceeded 7000 by default). The breakdown is as follows:

4 R$$$ buildings

  • CITITOWER Guadalajara, 4x6 left corner
  • Ventura Place One, 3x4 front
  • Ventura Place Two, 3x4 front
  • Ventura Place Three, 3x4 front

4 CS$$$ buildings

  • CITITOWER Guadalajara, 4x6 left corner
  • Hotel Presidente Guadalajara, 5x5 front
  • Hotel Presidente Intercontinental Mexico City, 4x2 front
  • Carlton Hotel Johannesburg, 4x2 front

7 CO$$ buildings

  • AON Center, 3x4 front
  • Carlton Center, 3x4 front
  • Carlton Hotel Building, 4x2 front
  • 345 California Center, 6x3 front
  • One Kansas City Place, 4x3 front
  • Everett McKinley Dirksen Building (Federal Center Chicago), 3x8 front
  • John C. Kluczynski Building (Federal Center Chicago), 6x3 front

10 CO$$$ buildings

  • One Metropolitan Square, 6x5 right corner
  • Gas Company Tower, 6x3 front
  • Capella Tower, 4x8 left corner
  • Park Building (Capella Tower small building), 4x2 front
  • Chanin Building, 4x4 front
  • Commerzbank Tower, 4x5 front
  • IBM-Marathon Tower, 5x9 right corner
  • Denver Place, 6x8 front
  • First National Bank Tower, 5x5 front
  • Torre Multiva, 4x3 front

Detailed stats for all of the buildings can be found in the enclosed README.

Install Instructions

Pick either the vanilla or the CAM version and drop the files in your My Documents/SimCity 4/Plugins folder. To uninstall, simply delete the files from your hard drive.

Dependencies

Main Building(s)

This list contains all of the buildings used in this set. Each subfolder corresponds to a particular building/set of buildings - if you don't have a particular building feel free to delete the corresponding subfolder.

Mods (CAM version only)

You will only need these if you're using the CAM version. Either version of CAM will work with the CAMeLots.

Credit goes to Diego Del Llano for all of these spectacular BATs!

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Damn...too bad I already went through them myself...could've saved myself quite a bit of work. I'm sure it will be useful for many other users though.

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So I'm not the only one that did this.  I will have to look through the list as there are a couple of buildings for which I didn't want to even try to estimate a level of fill.  Plus it will be useful to bounce the stats you've come up with against what I came up with for those buildings I did convert, to see if I'm in the same ballpark.

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@nos.17...and when will you release your version of these beautiful bats? 

I was planning to make growable versions as well, but I just started to learn making growable lots, and started JENX's and Porkissimo's paris/french sets to fill my city...

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Man! I also made growable versions for several of Diego's buildings... at least I won't have to worry about the ones I hadn't touched. *:rofl:

Great job!

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@Tyberius06 ... I must admit that many of the lots are solely the building, but I did create some unique lots for the buildings. I can dig those up for you if you want. STEX uploads for them are not on the radar for now as I really am not sure exactly what dependencies I used on each lot - whatever happened to be in my plugins folder on the moment. I'll look into it though...

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Hey all,

A user messaged me today mentioning that they get brown boxes for these buildings while possessing all of the dependencies. I think I know what is wrong at the moment  but hopefully those of you that created your own growables can help me confirm it as well.

@twalsh102, @Edvarz, @nos.17: Does your growable lots turn up as brown boxes if you swap the DN and MN models or vice versa?

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I only ever download DN versions when I have an option, so couldn't help immediately.  Had some time so I downloaded the MN versions of a half dozen of the buildings included in your package..

I didn't actually try to plop in game, but merely scanned with DataNode, which showed missing models when only the MN models were present.  I'm guessing that your suspicions are that the DN and MN models have different TGIs.  I can confirm this is the case on all the MN models I downloaded. 

Example:

Your Building exemplar for Commerzbank Tower shows RKT1 value of 5AD0E817-28654DD6-00030000

TGI for DN model:  5AD0E817-28654DD6-00030000

TGI for MN model:  5AD0E817-D60100C4-00650000

Hope this helps,

Tim

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15 hours ago, twalsh102 said:

TGI for DN model:  5AD0E817-28654DD6-00030000

TGI for MN model:  5AD0E817-D60100C4-00650000

There's the problem (obvious of course). If a user makes MN/DN or SD/HD buildings and uniquely exports them, it's easy for them to have different IDs. What you could do is just include two switchable Buildings Exemplars or Prop Exemplars which are linked to the different versions.

Ideally though, modellers can do a day export, make a duplicate of the file thereafter. Then export the MN/DN renders to the copies of the day model, this will ensure the ID are the same, so they are more easily interchangeable.

It's a bit harder with SD/HD render choices, since those need unique LODs and can't use the same model. But it's pretty quick to alter the ID manually, which can be done using Reader.

 

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Is the MN update in the April 15, 2017 upload, or is that not done yet? I can't use DN due to an unrelated conflict.

 

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Wow! they look amazing. 

I want to build some lots too, how do I do this? since Ilive in Houston, I'm thinking NASA and the medical center which is the largest in the country. 

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I'm totally confused here because I keep getting brown boxes, and I have only a limited understanding of how software actually works. Why do you say if I quote "don't have a particular building" to delete the corresponding sub-folder? Is there something here that I do not understand? Please help me out as I really enjoy playing sc4.

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Hi @Calvegrift

This particular download consists of growable re-lots of Diego del Llano’s downloads. Therefore, if you don’t have any of those, it wouldn’t do any good to use this. You are probably getting the brown boxes because you didn’t first get any of Diego’s buildings. If you do get any of Diego de Llano’s lots (use the links above), then you can use the folders with the same name in this download, and remove any that you don’t have for Diego.

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Did this ever get updated with the Maxisnight buildings? These look beautiful and I'd love to have them as growables, but I don't currently use Darknite.

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