RipRap's Japanese BATs

[RipRap 4,400]

RIPRAP'S JAPANESE BATs!

Hey Folks, I'm new to BAT, and stuff.

I'm usually pretty bad at exporting BATs and I felt like an absolute beginner compared to other people, but I'm trying hard to at least release a couple of BATs when I'm bored. Thanks to @Lucario Boricua, @Barroco Hispano, @Jasoncw, @MushyMushy, and @davide1983it for motivating me to start modelling and BATing, I especially thank Mushy and for Jason for being such a great guide to the complexities of BATing. Hopefully you'll hear a release very soon. I think I finally figured how to do these now. Only took me a whole day to crash course on everything, from making the model to texturing the model. I still don't know how to do nightlights but considering I'm starting from the Sengoku Period (where even candles were nonexistent), there won't be a lot of nightlighting involved. Watch this space if I did decide to nightlight them to modern period standards!

PROJECTS

Okaiken Joka-machiya Collection 
The Okaiken Jokamachiya Collection is a collection of Muromachi Period - Edo Period Japanese buildings. A lot of buildings are derived from the traditional "machiya" (town houses) found in cities such as Kanazawa, Kyoto, Hagi or Edo. This will be the main focus of my BATs, as I build the town of Suemori for the upcoming reboot of Okaiken.

STATUS
OKAIKEN MACHIYA PACK 1
 

Spoiler

IN THIS COLLECTION

EDO PERIOD MACHIYA COLLECTION - ESTIMATED RELEASE DATE: NO EARLIER THAN NOVEMBER 15, 2021

• R$$1_1x1_Okaiken_Machiya_01A (Edo Style) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• R$$2_1x2_Okaiken_Machiya_02A (Edo Style) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• R$1_1x1_Okaiken_Machiya_03A (Edo Style) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• R$$2_2x2_Okaiken_Machiya_04A (Edo Style CORNER A) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• R$1_1x1_Okaiken_Machiya_05A (Edo Style) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• R$$2_2x1_Okaiken_Machiya_06A (Edo Style CORNER B) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_07A (Edo Style FILLER A) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_08A (Edo Style FILLER B) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_09A (Edo Style FILLER C) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_10A (Edo Style) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_11A (Edo Style) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_12A (Edo Style CORNER C) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_13A (Edo Style FILLER D) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_14A (Edo Style FILLER E) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_15A (Edo Style) -- NOT STARTED

HIDA/ECHIZEN MACHIYA COLLECTION

• Okaiken_Machiya_01B (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style) -- ON HOLD 
• Okaiken_Machiya_02B (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style) -- ON HOLD
• Okaiken_Machiya_03B (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style) -- ON HOLD
• Okaiken_Machiya_04B (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style CORNER A) -- ON HOLD
• Okaiken_Machiya_05B (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style) -- ON HOLD
• Okaiken_Machiya_06B (Ichijoudani/Takayama FILLER A) -- ON HOLD
• Okaiken_Machiya_07B (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_08B (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style CORNER B) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_09B (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style FILLER B) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_10B (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_11A (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_12A (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style CORNER C) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_13A (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style FILLER C) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_14A (Ichijoudani/TakayamaStyle FILLER D) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_15A (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style) -- NOT STARTED

SUEMORI (SENGOKU JIDAI) MACHIYA COLLECTION

• Okaiken_Machiya_SE1 (Sengoku Jidai Style A) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_02C (Sengoku Jidai Style A) -- ON HOLD/NOT PLANNED
• Okaiken_Machiya_03C (Sengoku Jidai Style A) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_04C (Sengoku Jidai Style A CORNER) -- ON HOLD/NOT PLANNED 
• Okaiken_Machiya_05C (Sengoku Jidai Style A) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_06C (Sengoku Jidai Style A CORNER A) -- IN PROGRESS
• Okaiken_Machiya_07C (Sengoku Jidai Style A FILLER A) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_08C (Sengoku Jidai Style A FILLER B) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_09C (Sengoku Jidai Style  FILLER C) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_10C (Sengoku Jidai Style A CORNER B) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_11C (Sengoku Jidai Style A) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_12C (Sengoku Jidai Style CORNER C) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_13C (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style FILLER C) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_14C (Ichijoudani/TakayamaStyle FILLER D) -- NOT STARTED
• Okaiken_Machiya_15C (Ichijoudani/Takayama Style) -- NOT STARTED

BONUS

• Okaiken_Machiya_03C (Edo Style B) -- ON HOLD
• Okaiken_Machiya_SE02B (Sengoku Jidai Style B) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_SE03B (Sengoku Jidai Style B) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_SE03C (Sengoku Jidai Style C) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_09SE2 (Sengoku Jidai Style B FILLER C) -- READY FOR RELEASE
• Okaiken_Machiya_09SE3 (Sengoku Jidai Style C FILLER C) -- READY FOR RELEASE

 

Japanese Old Style Walls Collection 
These lots consists of walls that you can use to build private residential Japanese estates, or "shoen". It can also be used as walls for your garden, your temples/shrines, parks, or your small Japanese castle. These comes in 3 styles: Edo, Sengoku Period and Tsujibei. 

STATUS
JAPANESE OLD STYLE WALLS COLLECTION

Spoiler

IN THIS COLLECTION

EDO PERIOD JAPANESE STYLE WALL COLLECTION

• Straight Piece -- IN PROGRESS
• Outer Corner Piece -- NOT STARTED
• Inner Corner Piece -- NOT STARTED
• 1/2 Wall Piece -- NOT STARTED
• Outer Diagonal Corner -- NOT STARTED
• Inner Diagonal Corner -- NOT STARTED
• Diagonal Piece -- NOT STARTED
• T Piece -- NOT STARTED

 

SENGOKU PERIOD JAPANESE STYLE WALL COLLECTION

• Straight Piece -- EXPORTED
• Outer Corner Piece -- EXPORTED
• Inner Corner Piece -- NOT STARTED
• 1/2 Wall Piece -- IN PROGRESS
• Outer Diagonal Corner -- NOT STARTED
• Inner Diagonal Corner -- NOT STARTED
• Diagonal Piece -- NOT STARTED
• T Piece -- NOT STARTED

 

TSUJIBEI JAPANESE STYLE WALL ADDON

• Straight Piece -- NOT STARTED
• Outer Corner Piece -- NOT STARTED
• Inner Corner Piece -- NOT STARTED
• 1/2 Wall Piece -- NOT STARTED
• Outer Diagonal Corner -- NOT STARTED
• Inner Diagonal Corner -- NOT STARTED
• Diagonal Piece -- NOT STARTED
• T Piece -- NOT STARTED

 

OKAIKEN V5 SPECIFIC BATS
These lots are specific to Okaiken V5, and will be available as a special standalone release on the STEX after each Okaiken update. If you come here from Okaiken V5, this is the place to check out the update status of Okaiken V5 (Spoilers Ahead)!

STATUS
OKAIKEN V5 SPECIFIC BATS

Spoiler

UPDATE I - SUEMORI - RELEASE DATE: LATE OCTOBER 2021

• Shoheiji Temple -- EXPORTED - IN UPDATE!
• Sengoku Period House 1 (Straight) -- EXPORTED - IN UPDATE!
• Sengoku Period House 1 (45 Degrees) -- EXPORTED - IN UPDATE!
• Sengoku Period House 1 (30 Degrees) -- EXPORTED - IN UPDATE!
• Sengoku Period House 2 (Straight) -- EXPORTED - IN UPDATE!
• Sengoku Period House 2 (45 Degrees) -- EXPORTED - IN UPDATE!
• Sengoku Period House 2 (30 Degrees) -- EXPORTED - IN UPDATE!
• Sengoku Period House 3 (Straight) -- IN PROGRESS
• Sengoku Period House 3 (45 Degrees) -- IN PROGRESS
• Sengoku Period House 3 (30 Degrees) -- IN PROGRESS
• Sengoku Period Shoen 1 -- NOT STARTED - PENDING DEPENDENCY: JAPANESE STYLE WALLS - SENGOKU PERIOD
• Sengoku Period Shoen 2  -- NOT STARTED - PENDING DEPENDENCY: JAPANESE STYLE WALLS - SENGOKU PERIOD
• Sengoku Period Shoen 3 -- NOT STARTED - PENDING DEPENDENCY: JAPANESE STYLE WALLS - SENGOKU PERIOD
• Sengoku Period Horse Stable -- IN PROGRESS - PENDING DEPENDENCY: HORSE
• Sengoku Period Barricade Stockade 12m - Straight -- NOT STARTED
• Sengoku Period Barricade Stockade 16m - Straight -- NOT STARTED
• Sengoku Period Barricade Stockade 8m - Straight -- NOT STARTED
• Sengoku Period Barricade Stockade 12m - Diagonal-- NOT STARTED
• Sengoku Period Barricade Stockade 16m - Diagonal-- NOT STARTED
• Sengoku Period Barricade Stockade 8m - Diagonal-- NOT STARTED

 

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Why not keep the Enceladus texture? It's one of my favourite Saturn moonds

Although that rather looks like Charon :/

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Nice to know you will start to do BATs. If you know how to deal with all those other softwares I believe you'll learn about 3ds Max quickly.

[rsc204 21,836]

This looks like a good start, welcome to the world of batting.

I'm quite certain a solid grounding in AutoCAD will help wonders with deciphering 3DS max, I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

[tonyr 926]

  I'm sure you will do just fine, Tonraq. 

[raynev1 1,886]

Uh oh , a new player at BAT . Looks like you're off to a good start . I'm interested to see what you come up with . Good luck .

[SimCoug 5,973]

You have already accomplished more with the BAT than I could possibly dream of doing.  Looking forward to your progress

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Nice start! Just take care to align textures properly - you'd normally pile up stones more or less in horizontal rows, so your texture should be horizontally oriented fundamentally.

[Huston 5,799]

What T Wrecks said But seriously glad you finally started a BAT thread. I mean the BAT you've already started is looking well formed

[RipRap 4,400]

Thanks guys for the input! 

Hi, I'm new to BAT, and stuff. Basically I have been watching you guys craft such quality work, so I decided to try it for myself. 

- I have a little experience with 3ds max; I used it on one of my interventions at the Faculty of Architecture and that's about it.
- I have 5 years experience with AutoCAD, however.

-I have 3 years experience of CATIA and Solid works.
- I was recently taught to use Rhinoceros, a program that is similar to 3ds max but with less buttons and it comes in white UI.
- I don't have Google SketchUp.

Now, I could easily model buildings, structures, etc. but I suck at texture mapping... Look at this thing that I made in Rhino, it looks like the surface of Enceladus rather than a surface of a Japanese castle wall. 

So that begins my BATing adventures.

PS I'm a visual learner. I tried reading several of them but without images, I have no idea what I was doing. 

EDIT: Much better.

I'm not doing some textures yet, because the program is technically still at Rhino and I have yet to export it to 3ds max, where I would texture it correctly (when I see a good tutorial somewhere on the interwebs). Right now I'm much more comfortable with Rhino when it comes to modelling curves and arrays

Small progress so far on Rhino, I just added a small extension to the rock base. the purpose of this one is to (hopefully) connect to other pieces, that has yet to be determined.

EDIT: Here is the original model exported to 3ds max

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Which render settings do you use right now? It looks like Phong shading without light making it hard to see the actual geometry :|

[RipRap 4,400]

Which one are referring to, the one in Rhino? Rhino has elementary rendered options.

On 3ds max, it's still on the rendered option. I usually use wireframe to work with geometries, but that usually confuses me so I usually put it in rendered to see what I'm working at. As I said, my focus is not yet on redering but on actual modelling of it. LOL

 

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Yeh I know, and that's totally fine, just checking to make sure you're actaully able to see your geometry. With loss of light and shadows were basically only 2-dimensional! (yes, we actually only are able to see 2 dimensions people!)

[RipRap 4,400]

So @JP Schriefer told me I can technically model on a program that I am comfortable with, so I have decided to use Rhino and export it to 3ds max later.

That restarts my BAT thread

EDIT:

EDIT of EDIT:

this is what it might look like in sc4

[jmsepe 2,039]

Yes, continue to create Asian BATs! Bwahaha. Thanks for this Tornaq.  

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Now this is shaping up quickly and nicely! Are you going to scale the building along the Z axis later? I'm wondering because it looks squashed in SC4 perspective, which is typical for buildings that haven't been stretched to ~133% of their actual height to compensate for the perspective effect. Then again, maybe you're perfectly aware of all this and simply like to do it later. In any case, I wish you happy BATting in your favourite tool!

[madhatter106 3,905]

The top row of windows looks awfully close to the roofline - I would raise the height of the building/roofline a bit to compensate.  Also, how the heights of those windows relate to (what I am perceiving to be) the height of what looks like the front windows seems rather odd.  That is to say, if you continued those horizontal lines across the sides at the same heights you have in the front, where they relate to the side windows doesn't seem to be consistent or make sense spatially.

[RipRap 4,400]

2 hours ago, madhatter106 said:

The top row of windows looks awfully close to the roofline - I would raise the height of the building/roofline a bit to compensate.  Also, how the heights of those windows relate to (what I am perceiving to be) the height of what looks like the front windows seems rather odd.  That is to say, if you continued those horizontal lines across the sides at the same heights you have in the front, where they relate to the side windows doesn't seem to be consistent or make sense spatially.

Hmmm looking at the structure the four sides does not actually relate to each other in window heights (which is quite unusual ; the left window array side is just 0.9m from the the roof line while on the other right side the it's much more tighter with only 0.4m away from the roof line).  The front windows which is of a stick assembly glazing (not yet done, don't measure from those lines yet) has its top windows about 1.2m from the roof line. the only thing consistent on the structure is that it's a 4 level structure with the first floor about 2.8 metres tall from the ground. I could technically move the side windows about the same height as the glazing at the front but that would mean I would lose the 2.8 metre consistency at the first level Anyway,  that is some nice feedback!  

Also, I am going to scale the building about 133% later,  I am just at the early stages of construction

EDIT: actually looks better imho

 

 

[RipRap 4,400]

Looks like there's only a few things left to BAT (roof junk, access door and vents)

EDIT

 

 

[Mary Maurine Mayo 984]

looks really good. i like it....

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Very good, Tonraq!

I would like to point out that looks like your configuration is like mine as default and you need to change it everytime you do a new BAT. After you activate daytime illumination, Maxis or Darknite, go to render configurations and change the sampling mode from Unified to Classic mode. It will make your model looks better and your previews and rendering process will be made faster.

[RipRap 4,400]

It's getting to the point of near completion, just a wee bit of 3d modelling to be done and it is off to texturing D:

 

 

 

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Maybe a few days to a new BATter officially appear ? \o/

[Thin White Duke 4,072]

This is looking great. W2W 2x4?

[raynev1 1,886]

Your building is coming along nicely , can't wait to see how you texture it . 

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Classic boxy Japanese midrise commercial building <3

But what is that strange light reflection in the last Rhino render?

[RipRap 4,400]

6 hours ago, Toothless Stitch said:

Classic boxy Japanese midrise commercial building <3

But what is that strange light reflection in the last Rhino render?

that's rhino's shaded option.  I use it to see what lines I could see when doing the BAT.  

 

10 hours ago, Thin White Duke said:

This is looking great. W2W 2x4?

It's technically a corner lot.  Might come up as a 1x3.

[jmsepe 2,039]

Can't wait to see the texturing. 1x3 might be difficult to blend with other Japanese w2w bats but I think it would just do fine.

[TakemeThere 5,834]

Nice progress, seems like your quickly getting the hang of it.

[Thin White Duke 4,072]

Great dimensions! There's a clear deficit of W2W 1x3 corner buildings. nofunk's Clock Shadow Building and JasonCW's Sundry building are all I can think of. Finally we get more.