Adrianor's Latin American BATs

[Adrianor 628]

Finally, after some minor problems, I'm calling my first housing pack done. All possible combinations are shown below:

 

 

 

Before uploading this, I have one question (probably a stupid one): I've used prop families and I have three DAT files in total. Two prop families have 3 props each and the last one has 4. I have to upload each prop's corresponding SC4MODEL and SC4DESC files in addition to the DAT file itself, right?

[T Wrecks 10,210]

Depends on what's in the DAT files, really. DATs can contain pretty much any SC4-related file type(s), so there really is no telling without further information.

In any case, you need:

• ONE instance of each model
• ONE instance of each building desc
• ONE instance of each prop desc
• plus any lot files.

Doesn't matter whether these are inside the DAT or loose, as long as they're present.

As for the buildings themselves, I love the models and the variation! However, I think the darker textures on the first ones are too saturated. Other than that, it looks like a splendid addition!

[Gn_leugim 858]

5 hours ago, T Wrecks said:

As for the buildings themselves, I love the models and the variation! However, I think the darker textures on the first ones are too saturated. Other than that, it looks like a splendid addition!

I have to agree here, no much more to say

[Adrianor 628]

@T Wrecks Ah, thanks, got it. Glad you like the houses!

@T Wrecks and @Gn_leugim: I've slightly desaturated some textures, it does look a bit better now I think, but you be the judge. 

 

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Updated version of one of the models. I've desaturated both the roof and the wood texture. 

Before (left) and after(right):

 

 

Another model. It's a C$ warehouse (loosely based on this). Added some painted over graffiti to liven it up a bit. 

 

 

[Gn_leugim 858]

the roof is indeed better! and so is the wood. But that red wall could have some bit too IMO. This last store, just do as I say, nightlite it, mod it, pack it and upload it

[Adrianor 628]

@Gn_leugim: Thanks! I changed the texture slightly, as you recommended. And don't worry, you will see this last building in my C$ pack next week, I'm almost done with the last store  . 

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I've finally uploaded my first housing pack! Thanks to all of you for your recommendations. You can download it here. 

Also, as I told Gn_leugim, I will probably upload my C$ pack next week, so stay tuned!

[matias93 7,535]

Sorry for being the bringer of bad news, but the Datpacker found some modding errors on the houses:

Spoiler

********************* ERROR *********************
in examplar 0x6534284AL 0x421A0D0FL 0xB571D21EL
located in D:\docs\Documentos\SimCity 4\Plugins\A\Adrianor\R$ Pack Santiaguino 1\Casas Cueto\Casitas Cueto.dat
0x27812810:{"Occupant Size"}=Float32:3:{Width: 8.18700027, Height: 9.33600044, Depth: 30.40399933}
*************************************************
********************* ERROR *********************
in examplar 0x6534284AL 0x840E777EL 0x14C415F0L
located in D:\docs\Documentos\SimCity 4\Plugins\A\Adrianor\R$ Pack Santiaguino 1\Casas Cueto\Casitas Cueto.dat
0x27812810:{"Occupant Size"}=Float32:3:{Width: 8.18700027, Height: 9.33600044, Depth: 30.40399933}
*************************************************
********************* ERROR *********************
in examplar 0x6534284AL 0x8AEC261AL 0x2DF50D44L
located in D:\docs\Documentos\SimCity 4\Plugins\A\Adrianor\R$ Pack Santiaguino 1\Casas Cueto\Casitas Cueto.dat
0x27812810:{"Occupant Size"}=Float32:3:{Width: 8.18700027, Height: 9.33600044, Depth: 30.40399933}
*************************************************
********************* ERROR *********************
in examplar 0x6534284AL 0x31F44557L 0x8A14E815L
located in D:\docs\Documentos\SimCity 4\Plugins\A\Adrianor\R$ Pack Santiaguino 1\Casas Garcia Reyes\Casitas Garcia Reyes v1.1.dat
0x27812810:{"Occupant Size"}=Float32:3:{Width: 8.03100014, Height: 10.25, Depth: 25.20000076}
*************************************************
********************* ERROR *********************
in examplar 0x6534284AL 0xA80D8046L 0x88A41BD6L
located in D:\docs\Documentos\SimCity 4\Plugins\A\Adrianor\R$ Pack Santiaguino 1\Casas Garcia Reyes\Casitas Garcia Reyes v1.1.dat
0x27812810:{"Occupant Size"}=Float32:3:{Width: 8.03100014, Height: 10.25, Depth: 25.20000076}
*************************************************
********************* ERROR *********************
in examplar 0x6534284AL 0x5E560A9CL 0xA9A143FCL
located in D:\docs\Documentos\SimCity 4\Plugins\A\Adrianor\R$ Pack Santiaguino 1\Casas Garcia Reyes\Casitas Garcia Reyes v1.1.dat
0x27812810:{"Occupant Size"}=Float32:3:{Width: 8.03100014, Height: 10.25, Depth: 25.20000076}
*************************************************
********************* ERROR *********************
in examplar 0x6534284AL 0x1C970AE8L 0x996914B5L
located in D:\docs\Documentos\SimCity 4\Plugins\A\Adrianor\R$ Pack Santiaguino 1\Casas Portugal\Casas Calle Portugal.dat
0x27812810:{"Occupant Size"}=Float32:3:{Width: 8.00800037, Height: 16.80599976, Depth: 15.17500019}
*************************************************
********************* ERROR *********************
in examplar 0x6534284AL 0x49B3FB35L 0xCAAC19A5L
located in D:\docs\Documentos\SimCity 4\Plugins\A\Adrianor\R$ Pack Santiaguino 1\Casas Portugal\Casas Calle Portugal.dat
0x27812810:{"Occupant Size"}=Float32:3:{Width: 0}
*************************************************
********************* ERROR *********************
in examplar 0x6534284AL 0x71FD02D9L 0x929196EBL
located in D:\docs\Documentos\SimCity 4\Plugins\A\Adrianor\R$ Pack Santiaguino 1\Casas Portugal\Casas Calle Portugal.dat
0x27812810:{"Occupant Size"}=Float32:3:{Width: 8.00800037, Height: 16.80599976, Depth: 15.17500019}
*************************************************
********************* ERROR *********************
in examplar 0x6534284AL 0x13F193B8L 0xEB6ABB35L
located in D:\docs\Documentos\SimCity 4\Plugins\A\Adrianor\R$ Pack Santiaguino 1\Casas Portugal\Casas Calle Portugal.dat
0x27812810:{"Occupant Size"}=Float32:3:{Width: 8.00800037, Height: 16.80599976, Depth: 15.17500019}
*************************************************

 

In all cases the Occupant Size is the problematic one, but I'm not so sure what is wrong, because the values look right; it may be just a syntax error?

[Adrianor 628]

@matias93 Ah shoot. I really wouldn't know what the error is. I got the houses to grow correctly, but I don't use the Datpacker. I can check and see if there's anything strange.

[rsc204 21,866]

I just had a look at these "faulty" exemplars.

So for example, if you open Casitas Cueto.dat, the three prop exemplars here all have the value 0 for the Occupant Size. Here's what you need to do:

1. Double click Occupant Size, a window opens up.
2. Click Add on the right, until there are three white boxes.
3. Enter .5 into each of the three boxes.
4. Click Apply (in the bottom right).
5. Click Apply (this time the one lower down on the left).
6. Repeat for each Occupant Size property that is only 0.

Now for the techy bit...

Occupant Size should be the LengthxHeightxWidth, so it needs three values or reps. The errors are because the data is not in the expected format.

That said, you should never use the Occupant Size 0,0,0. Because the bounding box of the object in the LE, will then be 0,0,0, i.e. you won't be able to see/select it. Also, very low values can cause problems, so shouldn't be used. Most modders use either .5,.5,.5 or 1,1,1 if they want a very small Occupant Size. Anything smaller is impractical.

Bear in mind, even with a tiny O/S, you probably don't want to be able to MMP a huge tree, so that it sticks out of the roof. So whilst a smaller size is often helpful, that may not apply to props like buildings. Often it's better to use the default, or just reduce that by say 1m on each axis. That setting will make it more MMP-friendly, whilst keeping a "dead zone" where the building will be.

[Manuel-ito 322]

An alternative to fixing this issue involves using the PIM-X. Highlight the affected building exemplar, right click on the values tab and select 'Rebuild Occupant Size from Model'. Re-adjust values if necessary and save.

By the way: Are you using a 'beta' version of Ilive's Reader, found on the forums? I remember encountering a very annoying bug where the program would reset the exemplar's Occupant Size to 0 whenever you modify any value. That alone made me go back to the old version you find on the STEX. Just letting you know

Despite these issues, I like these models! I'm always searching for W2W Latin American houses, and these will work nicely for my cities.

[Adrianor 628]

@rsc204 Thanks for explaining these technical details, I'm quite ignorant in this matter, so this is quite helpful. I tried doing what you told me to do, but, as Manuel-ito said, I apparently have this bug where the examplar's Occupant size stays at 0. I'll download the old version. 

@Manuel-ito Thanks for letting me know about this bug, I'll have to download the old version of Ilive's Reader as you said. I'm glad you like these models, expect some R$$ houses coming soon.  

[rsc204 21,866]

I don't know which version of reader you mean by new, the old one I assume is .093 though.

I'm using the latest build, 1.5.4 from here. I can happily edit/save these changes without problems.

Many people do not realise that this application is still being supported, by Tropod currently. My experience is that 1.5.4 is stable/reliable. The thing is, if no one either:

1. Uses v1.5.4
2. Reports issues when they find them

Then we'll miss out on the chance to have a stable/working updated version of Reader. So if you do come across problems (with the latest build), please take the time to report them. Tropod's pretty good at fixing issues.

[Adrianor 628]

@rsc204 Ah, I see. I was using version 1.4 which I downloaded from that exact same forum. I'll download the latest version. 

Don't worry, I'll report any issues I may encounter

 

 

 

[Adrianor 628]

I've corrected the faulty exemplars of my housing pack and I've uploaded the new versions of the DAT files.

Here's the last(?) CS$ building (here's the real one) for my CS$ pack. I think I can model one last CS$ building before uploading the pack. This time I'm letting you guys decide on a particular CS$ that you'd like me to model. Bear in mind that it has to have, of course, the same characteristics as the other buildings in the pack, i.e.:

(1) It has to be low-density

(2) It has to be located in Santiago, Chile.

(3) It should preferably be w2w. 

First come, first served

 

  

 

In the event that no one cares or suggests anything well... I'll just choose one myself!

[matias93 7,535]

Lets see if you like it (I'm feeling like cheating, living in Santiago makes this much more easy):

https://www.google.cl/maps/@-33.4484026,-70.7220483,3a,75y,37.25h,93.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1si512d83hRzq3RTIiH-Gjcg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=es-419

It's a rather big bakery near my house, which is also the house of its owners (that's what the second and third floors stands for). It's size is a 18 x 18 meters corner building.

[Adrianor 628]

@matias93 Haha, yeah, that was quick! It looks good, it shouldn't be too hard to model. It gets my approval. 

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

I first though harishna changed his name  

[Adrianor 628]

@Toothless Stitch Ah yes, harishna, I've seen his BATs...Wish I had his batting skills! It's a shame he's been inactive for quite some time now.

 

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I will probably change the size of my future packs and instead of uploading four or more BATs at a time, I'll release 'mini' packs of two BATs. I'm doing this because I will be quite busy soon, that way those interested in my BATs will have to wait less for new content.

[raynev1 1,886]

I think you are doing a great job of bringing Latin American buildings to SC4 . Keep up the good work . 

[Gn_leugim 858]

that looks very nice, you have learned well young pad-wan

[Adrianor 628]

Thanks for the support guys. Still learning quite a bit!

Here's the little bakery that matias93 suggested me to do. I changed the dimensions a bit so it fits nicely on a 1x1 lot together with the little house next to it. Now that I notice, there are still a few details missing as well as some textures that I could change, like the blue ceramic wall for example (which should be glossier...still trying to figure out how to do that). 

  

[Adrianor 628]

Here's every CS$ building in the pack that I'm planning to upload. I will darken the textures of the second and third buildings from the left, as they look a bit out of place I think. Expect to see this pack very soon!

 

 

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

I love the roof of the second building!
You're doing a great job with this pack.

[korver 27,686]

Excellent work, they look great

[MushyMushy 3,618]

Looks great!

As a side note, I'm not entirely sure you can really do glossy things to any great extent in gmax. You need to use 3DS to do that.

[Adrianor 628]

@JP Schriefer and @korver: Thank you guys!

@MushyMushy : Good to know, thanks for stopping by!

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The pack is now online! Link.

 

[SimCoug 5,976]

Just noticed your recent packs on the STEX and I wanted to say they look fantastic!  Once I get back to SC4, I can tell you without a doubt that I will be using these in New SorGun.  The details and textures are right up my alley. 

[Adrianor 628]

@SimCoug Thanks a lot! I remember following your CJ years ago -- quietly, but avidly -- when it first started and before I took a long break from SC4. I'm looking forward it.

 

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Expect to see an update on my R$$ mini pack Santiaguino tomorrow.

[Gn_leugim 858]

I shall wait for it

 

[Adrianor 628]

@Gn_leugim: And here you go...

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Here's the first model of the housing pack I mentioned. It will come in the two colors shown below and sit on a 1x1 corner lot and a 1x2 corner lot. 

The real one

   

As always, suggestions/comments are welcome.