modern NYBT?

[Anonymous01 2]

I notice there is alot of old school NYBT's but no modern up to date nybt's. Usually you find alot of these modern luxury apartments in williamsburg, Dumbo, and Long island city. Just wanted to know if anyone was interested in making one of those?

 

[elavery 1,013]

Post something in the BAT request thread.

[Anonymous01 2]

Post something in the BAT request thread.

No one ever replies on there...

[Seraf 1,238]

Well, new buildings from NYC aren't landmarks and are rather similiar to those being built around the world so you can always use BATs of other modern buildings.

[Hotwheeler 409]

Well, new buildings from NYC aren't landmarks and are rather similiar to those being built around the world so you can always use BATs of other modern buildings.

Well,Seraf is mostly right.Even i often use modern batted buildings from different styles and creators in my SC 4 NewYork.You learn alot about NY`s nowadays variation of architecture if you roam around with Google Earth.I even noticed that some buildings (especially taller buildings) look like something made by the HKBT.

That`s the reason why you can find HKBT, modern Mattb stuff and similar lots in my Region.

The building in the picture above looks like something batted by MadHatter or so and placed on a 1x2 W2W lot and the rowhouses on the right might sit on 1x2 or 2x2 lots,too (sorry for the little SC4 nerdyness)

 

Besides that,it might be cool if we collect informations and pictures of significant modern Buildings from New York that really are more or less one of a kind.Like those huge glass needles that are planned all around Manhattan.One 57 might be a good example or even smaller but interesting modern NYC Buildings (maybe one of those weird setback Hotels and condos with transparent colored storagebox-alike balconies or those abominations/crime against humanity buildings made by "The Sledgehammer"...)

The possibilities are endless.This might give some young batters a push to bat something from NY without being too traditionalistic...

[cmdp123789 710]

Tose buildings won't make a difference, but you can't replace the new World Trade Center with something else... And I can't believe no one is trying to bat it... I've seen people bat harder things, yet no one wants it, and it is nowadays ny most iconic building.

Also, the new projects in the city include 432 park ave and similars, yet again.. No one is really trying them.

I'm not saying people are forced to bat them, but it is rather uncanny that people are not interested in those.

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

I'm not saying people are forced to bat them, but it is rather uncanny that people are not interested in those.

 

Yeah, I think NYC BATs have a legacy of being the exclusive domain of the NYBT, and as that team aren't doing much these days so (apart from Huston's Time Square) not much is coming out of NYC atm...

 

I can't help feeling like we need a new Statue of Liberty though

 

[Seraf 1,238]

 

I'm not saying people are forced to bat them, but it is rather uncanny that people are not interested in those.

 

Yeah, I think NYC BATs have a legacy of being the exclusive domain of the NYBT, and as that team aren't doing much these days so (apart from Huston's Time Square) not much is coming out of NYC atm...

 

I can't help feeling like we need a new Statue of Liberty though

 

 

 

We never said that we have some kind of exclusivity for the buildings from NYC. Everybody is welcomed to make something (Just saying, if somebody felt that way )

 

But I agree that we need a new Statue of Liberty (funny thing - I thought about it not a day ago when I saw your Cristo Redentor), the pedestal is a piece of cake, the Statue itself - not really

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Yeah, maybe it was more implied than explicit. Or more likely something that just existed in my head . In that case, I'm willing to give it a shot

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

I have thought about making some modern apartment like that, I just need to fin the right one, with the right size.  To me the buildings with the brick looks better that the all glass. The all glass apartments should be taller.

[cmdp123789 710]

Aaron, if you mean modern apartments like the picture at the beginning, dont.. please lol! You are the only one thats giving us the "fillers" for nyc.. without you it would impossible to recreate american cities.. see your buildings not only fit NYC but almost every american city.. Now, if you were to try something like 432 Park Avenue.. or maybe some of the tallest towers next to central park, then that would be a great deal for almost everyone..

 

That redentor looks awesome, and I agree a new Liberty Girl is needed  .. Also, we need that St. Pauls cathedral.. which is superb!

 

Finally, I believe that the majority of the buildings can be replaced, and you dont need exact copies to recreate something that looks like East Side.. but rather we need iconic buildings.. like a new and scaled correctly Chrysler.. Vlasky to finish the Empire State.. we need a Rockefeller.. we need TIMES SQUARE.. how come no one is interested in recreating probably the most famous crossroads in the world.. And if you have to be honest, for batters like Reddonquixote or our missing in action friend darknono.. those are pretty easy ones.. but I guess timing is always the problem, and again.. you are free to bat and spend your time the way you want to.. but if you were to be willing to give those iconic monsters to the rest of the world.. I dont think we would need to do them ever again.. the quality and detail of your work is close to perfection 

[9gruntsand1hammer 3,196]

Also, the new projects in the city include 432 park ave and similars, yet again.. No one is really trying them.

 

 

Someone is recreating 432 Park Avenue.

 

I think a lot of those landmarks aren't being recreated because they already exist on the stex, even if the quality isn't up to today's standards.

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Reddonquixote redo the Statue of Liberty would be awesome!

It was good you guys talk about that, I've to be more careful next time. Before starting the 32 Old Slip on my topic I should have checked with the NYBT if someone was already thinking of working on it. 

[schooner2 2]

Well I wonder if NYBT will eventually expand his batting expertise beyond the New York City limits and include New York's suburbs?  I wonder if he will explore the suburban counties in the NYC metro and bat the housing styles such as Cape Cods, Split Levels, High Ranches, Colonials, etc.  I mean, if you are going to recreate the New York metro, then the suburbs should match as well.  Just a thought.  As a native NYer,  I find that his bats are spot-on!

[cmdp123789 710]

Well as I said before, you can almost replace everything when doing recreations. Houses and suburbia can be easily recreated with existing homes.. 

 

 

 

Also, the new projects in the city include 432 park ave and similars, yet again.. No one is really trying them.
 

 

Someone is recreating 432 Park Avenue.

 

I think a lot of those landmarks aren't being recreated because they already exist on the stex, even if the quality isn't up to today's standards.

 

 

Yes, I saw the 432.. and I know what you mean by today's standards.. but the only one is the new WTC.. and to be honest, its not even scaled correctly.. that would be the same as saying that the empire state from maxis is good enough.. which in fact was until we discover that most of the buildings by maxis were out of proportions and that they dont look as nearly as good as some of the batters, reason more than enough for people to start batting those iconic buildings.

 

Of course, the new buildings are very easy to bat. Im no expert at batting, but it doesnt take a genius to realize that based on the work of some batters, and the buildings that are needed, the recreation of those isnt as nearly as hard as some of the ambitious projects Ive seen. Take for example the Chicago buildings released to the stex.. or darknono's different bats.. 

[Hotwheeler 409]

Oh yes,a new Statue of Liberty would be awesome.This fact that the Maxis one is missing the star shaped base and the overall proportions loo weird bothers me since...well,for several years now.I know someone once made a starshaped base for the Maxis one but this one looks weird compared to "nowadays standards" (even if i don`t really like the sound of this term....sounds kinda mean against al those talented batters that started years ago when SC4 was still new...)

Besides that,new doesn`t always means the same as soulless ugly glass,steel and concrete thing...

For example,i really like the design of this one

And there are many more developments that use classic design features.

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Here's as much as I could do this afternoon. I'll keep working on it during the week.

 

 

 

Of course, the new buildings are very easy to bat.

 

"Very easy"... hmmm.... I know it's not really what you meant, we happen to have a very talented pool of BATers on this site who make BATing look easy, that doesn't mean it is easy . Just because a BATer once modeled a very complex building, that doesn't make all less complex buildings 'very easy'... "relatively easier" perhaps?

[tonyr 926]

Looks like you've been busy. Great work Red!

[Seraf 1,238]

Here's as much as I could do this afternoon. I'll keep working on it during the week.

 

 

 

 

You beat me to it Oh well, I think I'll just take care of my other BATs, Lady Liberty is in good hands now Good work!    (although I'll have you know that I will be nagging you about architectural details )

[cmdp123789 710]

Here's as much as I could do this afternoon. I'll keep working on it during the week.

 

 

 

Of course, the new buildings are very easy to bat.

 

"Very easy"... hmmm.... I know it's not really what you meant, we happen to have a very talented pool of BATers on this site who make BATing look easy, that doesn't mean it is easy . Just because a BATer once modeled a very complex building, that doesn't make all less complex buildings 'very easy'... "relatively easier" perhaps?

Sorry for that. Yeah.. I meant it would be easier for a talented batter like you for example to approach those buildings. Great job on that base!!

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

 (although I'll have you know that I will be nagging you about architectural details

 

Yes please   I'm actually surprised how little reference materials there are for such a famous monument. There are plenty of references for the statue and pedestal but not so much for the podium / base. There also appears to be conflicting references, some have no staircases, some have one, and some have both. I've obviously made an assumption the two staircases are most recent additions and have included them. I can't quite work out their sizes accurately though (apart form width), the rest I've pretty much made it up.

 

Although there's lots of references for the pedestal, getting good dimensions has been difficult. As far as I can tell, its 18m around the base, 16m around the top balcony, and according to wikipedia, the pedestal is 27.13m tall. I think these dimensions make it look too squat

 

Anyway, any advice along the way would be great

[jmsepe 2,039]

OMG. Instant? I don't know how you guys do it but you seem to make bats so easy as if you were cooking instant noodles. 

[SimCoug 5,973]

This thread took an interesting turn!  The early modeling looks fantastic - already a leg up on the original maxis one

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Reddon doesn't want to answer my question D:

 

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Thanks guys

 

Here's an update on the textures. This has been really hard to get looking reasonable, this kind of biscuit /sandstone colour has a way of looking really over-saturated and sickly yellow. It goes from grey to over-saturated with almost no in-between. I'd be keen to hear what everyone thinks of these colours? (This is hours and hours of tweaking! )

 

 

Toothless... what question is that? How old am I? .... Everything personal I want to share is on my profile ... but I'll give you a hint. I'm older than 13 ...and less than a 100

[SimCoug 5,973]

Excellent!  The textures look great.  Like you said, sandstone can be tough to get, especially since it can look completely different depending on the light.  I think this will fit into SC4's color scheme perfectly. 

BTW, looking at the bottom base... you could create a pretty sweet looking sea wall set with the right pieces... 

[Lot Creator 304]

I notice there is alot of old school NYBT's but no modern up to date nybt's. Usually you find alot of these modern luxury apartments in williamsburg, Dumbo, and Long island city. Just wanted to know if anyone was interested in making one of those?

 

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Falling back into topic, I had recently done a 2005 renovated building from LA in blender not long ago. This seems just as simple to do, I would agree with Hotwheeler that the lot would be something small such as 2x2 or 2x1 or even as small as 1x1(lets face it, we sometimes need 1x1 filler buildings). I wouldn't mind to do it, but I'd need some more info on buildings like those. I don't usually go into google earth or google maps so I have only my imagination to work from.

[PBGV103 729]

The biggest thing I notice is the lack of anisotropic filtering. Not sure if a bump map on the stone would help, but a displacement map might.

[Huston 5,799]

Here's as much as I could do this afternoon. I'll keep working on it during the week.

 

 

Of course, the new buildings are very easy to bat.

 

"Very easy"... hmmm.... I know it's not really what you meant, we happen to have a very talented pool of BATers on this site who make BATing look easy, that doesn't mean it is easy . Just because a BATer once modeled a very complex building, that doesn't make all less complex buildings 'very easy'... "relatively easier" perhaps?

 

That's more than I could achieve in a single week And I love your texture update. This really stabs the Maxis version of the Statue of Liberty in the back

 

In relation to colors, I feel like it could probably be a little lighter, a little desaturated and probably needs an adjustment in the hue (a little yellower maybe?)

[tonyr 926]

Red is "doing the thing"!!!