Can't find it?... Ask here!

[tariely 4,496]

Hm. I'll have another look (with a magnifying glass) at Skimbo Golf course...

..............

Yes, there are a few golfers there (I think just one trying his put -- a bit monotone...) ; but I suppose one can do with the golf carts and some Nams and/or DEL people walking by, although it would be nice to have people actually dressed like golfers and caddies with golf bags... The greens and range are swell, but the Golf House and parking  could do with some TLC. I might try my hand at it. 

[jacko2110 144]

On 04/12/2018 at 12:25 AM, rsc204 said:

Actually, I've also had one of these (plus half-triangle and I-HT variants) knocking around in my dev files for a while. Likewise, colour-matching is not perfect, but it's about as good as you'll get without a lot of work editing the textures. Feel free to use either mine or CT14s, although I've used RTK0 props rather than a BAT model for the overhang, which makes the texturing easier.

ConcreteOverhangingProps.dat

I've had a look at these tonight.. Unfortunately not overhangs as the props are not offset enough.. i'm assuming these are the MGB triangle props? as these are the only 1's I could find...

I would be interested in offset prop Traingles in the I-M texture if they're out there though..?

[markussaage 762]

@tariely, @mrbisonm, I know, that @mattb325 made at least a nice golf cart prop found in here:

https://www.sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=3551

Kind regards!

[tariely 4,496]

I forgot that one ! How could I ! I have it, of course. (Time to putter around in my stash : too many floating lots in the SC4 “Downloaded-to-tidy-up” folder...  )

[mrbisonm 1,620]

11 hours ago, markussaage said:

@tariely, @mrbisonm, I know, that @mattb325 made at least a nice golf cart prop found in here:

https://www.sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=3551

Kind regards!

Right you are, forgot of these....haven't been LOTting for 10 or more years. Thanks

Fred

 

[rsc204 21,808]

16 hours ago, jacko2110 said:

I've had a look at these tonight.. Unfortunately not overhangs as the props are not offset enough.. i'm assuming these are the MGB triangle props? as these are the only 1's I could find...

I would be interested in offset prop Traingles in the I-M texture if they're out there though..?

First, please note I realised one of the textures was missing from the initial upload. Without that, the colour-correction would be way off, assuming you don't simply see pretty colours!

As for offset versions, that's reasonably simple to achieve using Model Tweaker, any prop you have can be offset either by duplicating it and moving it. Otherwise, it can be achieved using a special RTK4 prop exemplar, which is probably a better method.

Just to be clear though, can you show us what you want to use it for, that way I can ensure you get what you need here. Because offset props suffer from a game bug, I prefer to use one piece with the base and triangles like this:

Ignore the current textures, RTK0 props don't always preview how you'd expect. But the shape is something I could re-use with the Concrete textures, assuming it would work for your purposes, this is better than making offset triangle props.

[gwada971 1,891]

@tariely Simgoober also made golf cart props from 3 different angles (ortho, 30 and 45) in this pack :

 

[Tyberius06 12,189]

3 hours ago, rsc204 said:

First, please note I realised one of the textures was missing from the initial upload. Without that, the colour-correction would be way off, assuming you don't simply see pretty colours!

As for offset versions, that's reasonably simple to achieve using Model Tweaker, any prop you have can be offset either by duplicating it and moving it. Otherwise, it can be achieved using a special RTK4 prop exemplar, which is probably a better method.

Just to be clear though, can you show us what you want to use it for, that way I can ensure you get what you need here. Because offset props suffer from a game bug, I prefer to use one piece with the base and triangles like this:

Ignore the current textures, RTK0 props don't always preview how you'd expect. But the shape is something I could re-use with the Concrete textures, assuming it would work for your purposes, this is better than making offset triangle props.

I used the first method, I think, since I have no knowladge about messing with RTK4s besides of timed/seasonal props. But actually I encountered some wierd stuffs. In lot editor and PIM-X they show up properly as they were intended, but in game, the overhanging props show up like upside-down... The yellow-ish SPOT pieces show on which side the overhanging prop should be. The real overhang idicators the short diagonal piece and the middle straight piece on the second picture. I don't really understand this behaviour from the game... It messed up all the lots, what I made, and the strange thing is, that obviously they appered to be proper in PIM-X and Maxis LE.

On the third picture the short diagonal indicates the triangle piece (which you can see really faint under the square overhang on the right side) and the short straight indicates the one tile square overhang between the lot base and the triangle part.

@rsc204 any idea what went wrong?
Thanks in advance!

- Tyberius

[jacko2110 144]

@rsc204  "As for offset versions, that's reasonably simple to achieve using Model Tweaker, any prop you have can be offset either by duplicating it and moving it. Otherwise, it can be achieved using a special RTK4 prop exemplar, which is probably a better method" This is pretty much double dutch to me, i'm still a relative newbie trying to learn as I go...

Below is what I was meaning.. I did use the props and made them into diagonal plops.. I'm currently building a rail depot and just wanted to get the concrete a little closer to the rails.. I'm using that Catenary as I quite like the more realistic look to it over the Catenary mod, however the only drawback to this is that it has to be plopped at the side of the rails instead of being on them.. I know it's not perfect, but I like it... so that means the concrete has to stay at least 1 tile out.. Whereas if I had the extendable prop triangle I could take the concrete right in like the 2nd image.. (that is another extender i've got, but not in the right texture.... )

I'm not overly concerned about the colours not matching exactly as I feel it gives it a little more character, like dirty sections.. as long as it's not a million miles out.. You can see what i'm talking about with @CT14's square extensions... I've also added a full depot size image so you see what I mean... still a work in progress

 

 

[rsc204 21,808]

3 hours ago, Tyberius06 said:

@rsc204 any idea what went wrong?

Sadly, nothing, at least in terms of modding, that's just SC4 weirdness that occurs when you use offset props. You can compensate for it with lotting them the wrong way and they will appear correctly in-game, but that's about all you can do.

I've yet to try the RTK4 method for such props, I'm hoping it will prevent this problem, but that takes some effort to make/test.

2 hours ago, jacko2110 said:

Below is what I was meaning

OK, so the large diagonal's that I showed in my post would be fine here. That's much simpler, since I have templates, but it's 5am, so I'll come back tomorrow on that.

[mrbisonm 1,620]

And I thought that this was a "where to find...." only thread and not a "how to this......." thread.......??

 

mrb

 

 

[tariely 4,496]

6 hours ago, gwada971 said:

@tariely Simgoober also made golf cart props from 3 different angles (ortho, 30 and 45) in this pack :

Yes, it's one of the deps of Skimbo Modular Golf ; they ar every nice. But what I pine for is golfers 

[Tyberius06 12,189]

10 hours ago, mrbisonm said:

And I thought that this was a "where to find...." only thread and not a "how to this......." thread.......??

Hehe!

Well I "Can't find"/couldn't find a solution to my problem (it) which was related to a shared item in this topic, so it seemed to be appropriate to Ask here...
But now I found it thank to @rsc204!

11 hours ago, rsc204 said:

You can compensate for it with lotting them the wrong way and they will appear correctly in-game, but that's about all you can do.

Thank you very much, it worked!
But I don't want to be totally offtopic:

Well, I'm still looking for his University pack from the summer of 2007, which was released on his BLOG (reference link here: http://dmscopio.blogspot.com/2007/06/update-university-pack.html), so if anybody have that so called DMScopio University Pack that would be awesome to bring that '"last" lost gem of his here.

Thanks in advance!

- Tyberius

[rsc204 21,808]

On 06/12/2018 at 5:34 AM, mrbisonm said:

And I thought that this was a "where to find...." only thread and not a "how to this......." thread.......??

Indeed you are technically correct. But it's related to the discussion, since we're trying to fulfil a request for a user for props. If such conversations go Off Topic briefly and in context, I don't see that as an issue. But yeah, when it starts to become a development thread, it makes sense to split those posts into a separate topic and link to it. Given this only covered a couple posts, I think it's better left as is.

@jacko2110: Find a new file attached (replaces the old version), which includes 6 new props (3 for each concrete style), which I hope are suitable for your needs.

:Edit 02/2019: Please find these props as part of this set (STEX):

[jacko2110 144]

3 hours ago, rsc204 said:

Indeed you are technically correct. But it's related to the discussion, since we're trying to fulfil a request for a user for props. If such conversations go Off Topic briefly and in context, I don't see that as an issue. But yeah, when it starts to become a development thread, it makes sense to split those posts into a separate topic and link to it. Given this only covered a couple posts, I think it's better left as is.

@jacko2110: Find a new file attached (replaces the old version), which includes 6 new props (3 for each concrete style), which I hope are suitable for your needs.

MGB S3D Concrete Props.dat

Those 1's were spot on and exactly what I was after @rsc204, thankyou very much 

[tariely 4,496]

For Japanese lots afficionados : I am trying to find the link to HaS Sapporo Train Station and can't find it on the Hide & Seek website (that is what HaS is, right ?). The building looks like this (t'is my relot)

EDIT : Found it !   Not on Hide & Seek but on http://hide-inoki.com/sc4/buildings_bat.htm

[Tyberius06 12,189]

42 minutes ago, tariely said:

For Japanese lots afficionados : I am trying to find the link to HaS Sapporo Train Station and can't find it on the Hide & Seek website (that is what HaS is, right ?). The building looks like this (t'is my relot)

 

Hi!

I belive this one will be the original source. The name of the creator is Rag Taro (or Ragu Taro). I think he is/was the main admin on the HIDE and Seek.

http://www.hide-inoki.com/bbs/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=618

Also here is the link collection of his other works, in most cases the links go back to the HaS bulletin board.

http://www.hide-inoki.com/sc4/buildings_bat.htm#kumamoto

- Tyberius

Edit: @tariely

Quote

EDIT : Found it !   Not on Hide & Seek but on http://hide-inoki.com/sc4/buildings_bat.htm

yepp, that's a part of the hide and seek...  It will lead you back to the main hide-inoki site.

[markussaage 762]

17 hours ago, Tyberius06 said:

But I don't want to be totally offtopic:

Well, I'm still looking for his University pack from the summer of 2007, which was released on his BLOG (reference link here: http://dmscopio.blogspot.com/2007/06/update-university-pack.html), so if anybody have that so called DMScopio University Pack that would be awesome to bring that '"last" lost gem of his here.

Thanks in advance!

- Tyberius

Hey, I am not sure, but I've found a file called "NHP DMScopio - University Sport Pack Vol1.zip". Is that the one you're looking for?

Let me know.

Kind regards!

[gwada971 1,891]

Hi; it's this one

 

[Tyberius06 12,189]

1 hour ago, markussaage said:

Hey, I am not sure, but I've found a file called "NHP DMScopio - University Sport Pack Vol1.zip". Is that the one you're looking for?

Thanks, but nope, I have that University Sport Pack, actually I uploaded that Sport Pack onto STEX a few months ago on the behalf of DMScopio just changed the author's name back to the original creator - DMScopio.

1 hour ago, gwada971 said:

Hi; it's this one

 

Yepp, these are the buildings what I'm looking for.

[gwada971 1,891]

@Tyberius06  Sorry for the vain joy because on the SimCity china website there are only the pictures I have taken since 2011-2012, no download link (Dmscopio_NHP_Uiversity_Campus_Pack_Vol1.zip).
And at the same time it would be interesting to find this stadium Boleyn Ground (Upton Park) already used in CJs whose name I only have (NHP_DMScopio_BoleynGround.zip) and there, the loop would be closed!! See below

[Tyberius06 12,189]

@gwada971

That building actually is not the Boleyn Ground stadium. I think I have that and I downloaded from STEX. But I found the actual Boleyn Ground Stadium somewhere on the internet. Luckily someone DID break the community policies and rehosted that file after the original site went down. 
I'm gonna make a proper readme for it, and will upload to STEX soon if the admins ( @Cyclone Boom and @CorinaMarie) do agree with me. Here are the pictures from the zip, what I've found for the NHP Boleyn Ground.

Until than, the original source where I found it is here:

http://www.simland.eu/forum/grand-sud/utopia-feu-artifice-nouvel-375-t9955-4695.html#p594730

I see if I can find anything else here.

- Tyberius

[Tyberius06 12,189]

@gwada971
Ok after a little research I assume that the circled stadium is DMScopio's indeed and seeing the L.F.C innitials I assume, that is one of the never ever built Stanley Park Stadium (New Anfield) designs. But I don't know where this version was released, because what we have on STEX , it's also a different never built version in RL. 

@kschmidtwhere did you find this picture originally?

 

[kschmidt 6,164]

57 minutes ago, Tyberius06 said:

@gwada971
Ok after a little research I assume that the circled stadium is DMScopio's indeed and seeing the L.F.C innitials I assume, that is one of the never ever built Stanley Park Stadium (New Anfield) designs. But I don't know where this version was released, because what we have on STEX , it's also a different never built version in RL. 

@kschmidtwhere did you find this picture originally?

 

Recall, I was this picture from Show us what your´re working on city post by nycs4 !

Stadium isn´t stanley park as I mentioned it be the Youngboys stadium in Bern !

Sincerely yours,

kschmidt

[Tyberius06 12,189]

20 minutes ago, kschmidt said:

Recall, I was this picture from Show us what your´re working on city post by nycs4 !

Stadium isn´t stanley park as I mentioned it be the Youngboys stadium in Bern !

Sincerely yours,

kschmidt

Thanks, but I'm pretty sure it is not the Bern stadium. There were at least two different design version for the New Anfield, but none of them were built in IRL. DMS released here one of them what you linked.

Or maybe this on tje picture not his.

@nycsc4could you help us out with that stadium? Name and possible location?

Thanks in advance.

- Tyberius

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

2 hours ago, Tyberius06 said:

I'm gonna make a proper readme for it, and will upload to STEX soon if the admins ( @Cyclone Boom and @CorinaMarie) do agree with me.

For things totally lost and then found I feel it's our obligation to honor the original author by making their work available again. GFI

[gwada971 1,891]

 I found on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Park_Stadium a photo of the Stanley Park Stadium for Liverpool Football Club (LFC) project.

So maybe we can assume that DMScopio realized this stage thinking that it would come into being. Then to build the New Anfield Stadium AKA Stanley Park after. 

[Haljackey 17,302]

I can't remember where I downloaded this!

 

This is the water cube from the 2008 Beijing Olympics

Any ideas?

[Tyberius06 12,189]

46 minutes ago, Haljackey said:

I can't remember where I downloaded this!

 

This is the water cube from the 2008 Beijing Olympics

Any ideas?

Could you write the exact lot/model stb.. names? Or if you have the original name of the *.zip?

I found it!

 

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

I'm un-following this thread since I'm no help finding things, but do @ mention beep me again if I need to make a decision on something.