The Random Project: SC3KU - Kuruptz Inc.

[sc3kufan 16]

Love some of the stuff you're releasing!

[jmsepe 2,039]

Hi Huston. I seem to have a problem with Neihu Plaza as it always show an orange building when plopped. What is the solution to this? Thanks.

[Nirwanda 133]

I'll second Jmsepe here, all I'm getting is a building from one of the asian packs, is there an issue with render settings in game at all?

[9gruntsand1hammer 3,198]

This is what comes up when I plop Neihu Plaza, the building appears to be called Tanmin 7.

[Huston 5,799]

Unfortunately, I haven't exactly got a solution to it. But the model is in the files, and for some reason people's games can't read them. Mine's working so I can't exactly come up with any reason for why unless I re-lotted it myself. But honestly, I have no idea how to create an entirely new lot for it. I'm still quite the amateur on the file configuration side of lotting. I'd appreciate any help people could give me in that department.

[weixc812 509]

This is what comes up when I plop Neihu Plaza, the building appears to be called Tanmin 7.

It must be a conflict with another model. Two buildings share one instance. You can try to eliminate this by change the (Huston's)BAT's instance to a random generated number.

Or Huston, can you relot it?

[RipRap 4,400]

Lol I have that same problem David (Did you use that as a dummy model?)

[Huston 5,799]

Lol I have that same problem David (Did you use that as a dummy model?)

Yeah, I intended it to use it as a dummy with my BAT as the prop.

This is what comes up when I plop Neihu Plaza, the building appears to be called Tanmin 7.

It must be a conflict with another model. Two buildings share one instance. You can try to eliminate this by change the (Huston's)BAT's instance to a random generated number.

Or Huston, can you relot it?

I'm not actually sure how to change the instance #. Relotting sounds like a better solution. I'll try doing that instead

[Huston 5,799]

Could anyone offer to lot these two buildings as growables? I haven't had much luck myself, and time's not on my side lately. Any takers to fix the problems for these BAT releases once and for all?

 

[tonyr 926]

Way to go Huston...wish I could help.   You have done a great job on these;I hope there are takers to help! Good luck my friend.

[T Wrecks 10,210]

I'll see what I can do. I can take the models right off the STEX, correct?

[Huston 5,799]

Yeah, the files are all on my STEX upload of Neihu; and thanks for taking it up. The models should come up just fine in LE.

[jmsepe 2,039]

Yay, I can finally get those two to work in my cities.

[T Wrecks 10,210]

May take a while, though. My RL is pretty packed these days for private reasons (of the pleasant kind), so I probably won't have time to start before next week.

[Huston 5,799]

So, as I said a in another thread before, I've decided to try out and see if I could achieve bringing Times Square forward. Here's my start on Two Times Square so far. It's been textured so you can get the feel of what it's going to look like. Btw, if anyone could offer me good reference pictures the building, especially of the of the rooftop (not just a direct floor plan style image, but something that shows the design on the upper floors that I can't get on streetview on Google Earth ) that'd be great help to get this building up to scratch. I'm still a little baffled by the whole scheme of the rooftop since over-head views of the bldg don't give away much except for roof-junk.

 

Note also, that these are not the final textures.

 

So at 94 meters, I present to you the first stages of Two Times Square!

 

 

It seems okay so far, but any input to make this better would be great. This'll be quite a long-term project, and since I won't get much done in November, this could still pick up speed by December and if all goes well, could be done on the same month.

[tonyr 926]

Woo hoo! Someone is finally going to give Two Times Square the attention it deserves. Bravo Huston,bravo!

[Reddonquixote 4,339]

You are very brave taking this building on! References are scarce and the ones that are available don't give much away...

 

I know this is early days but you seem to have some fundamental flaws with the structure of the building:

 

1) I can only see references with 3 billboards, you have 4. Your bottom one doesn't exist, and your 2nd to bottom one comes up higher, mid-way to the 3rd exposed pole thing. Actually, the alignments of all the billboards are out slightly.

2) The billboards themselves should be rather thick and the middle one has round edges. Yours are thin and sharp-edged

3) The bottom of the upper-section of glass pretty much lines up with the bottom of the lowest exposed pole thing, just a tad lower. Yours is significantly lower.

4) That grey piece at the front comes all the way to the ground (and of course there's another section of building in front)

5) The back of the building where you have all-glass has a large cut-out section.

 

Hope that's not too critical, but didn't want you to get too far down the track where it becomes too hard to fix. I look forward to seeing this progress

 

Ps. Texturing at this early stage is going to slow down your render times, especially the reflections in the glass. Something to consider

[Huston 5,799]

Thanks for the tips, but don't worry, some of those i'm quite aware of

 

1) In terms of billboards - they're placeholders and aren't the actual ones I'm working on. They're just there so I can see how it looks roughly. I still have to accurately make and place them one I do get around to that

2) Definitely, will get around to it when I start modelling the billboards.

3) That I didn't catch on the google streetview I'll definitely need to work on scaling that properly.

4) It'll be continuing through as you said, I'm just modelling the top portion of the building first, and will get around to the bottom part afterwards

5) Yeah, I'll be needing to model that too, only really got around to the main rectangular portion before I stopped for a moment

 

Oh yeah, and true that about the rendering, although I did manage to get a new laptop a little over a month ago - glad to say that this rendered within seconds which should be helpful once it's ready to be textured properly:P

 

Thanks for the input reddon! Hopefully you can provide more critique further on in case I have any other things to fix up

[Huston 5,799]

You are very brave taking this building on! References are scarce and the ones that are available don't give much away...

 

I know this is early days but you seem to have some fundamental flaws with the structure of the building:

 

1) I can only see references with 3 billboards, you have 4. Your bottom one doesn't exist, and your 2nd to bottom one comes up higher, mid-way to the 3rd exposed pole thing. Actually, the alignments of all the billboards are out slightly.

2) The billboards themselves should be rather thick and the middle one has round edges. Yours are thin and sharp-edged

3) The bottom of the upper-section of glass pretty much lines up with the bottom of the lowest exposed pole thing, just a tad lower. Yours is significantly lower.

4) That grey piece at the front comes all the way to the ground (and of course there's another section of building in front)

5) The back of the building where you have all-glass has a large cut-out section.

 

Hope that's not too critical, but didn't want you to get too far down the track where it becomes too hard to fix. I look forward to seeing this progress

 

Ps. Texturing at this early stage is going to slow down your render times, especially the reflections in the glass. Something to consider

 

Btw, I'm still curious about how you add noise to your building textures. I've been trying to apply that to some of mine but haven't found any options that allow for it. Could you tip me on how to do it?

 

(also, this double post was by accident. Apparently, I wasn't typing in my edited post above)

[Reddonquixote 4,339]

Hmmmm... not sure what you mean I don't do anything special. 80% of the time I use PS to create the textures, or if I create noise textures directly in 3DS Max, which is pretty rare, under the diffuse slot in the Arch & Design material I select Noise instead of Bitmap - Is that what you're looking for?

 

Sometimes I add procedural grime, Darn has made a great tutorial

 

Hope this helps....

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

This pic was taken from the game Tycoon City New York. There are some Times Square buildings available as landmarks. I don't know if you have the game, it's worth taking a look at it. I don't think it's a perfect and decent reference, but it made give you some insight in the ground geometry of that one:

 

[Vlasky 1,803]

http://imagesus.homeaway.com/mda01/7e360f12-4e66-4f4e-8c71-4ab3e015f062.1.10

http://imagesus.homeaway.com/mda01/4c041d84-ae19-4b70-aa1a-1f2a8e61f624.1.10

 

Quick search gave that. Try looking up surrounding buildings and views from inside of them. Since a hotel is located inside 2 Times Square, the chances are weak you'll find a floor plan. In the next few days I will try my beast to dig up some photos, but I can't promise because I don't have a regular access to a computer nowadays

 

Great job and I'm really happy you're doing this.

[KonstantinII 1,106]

Cool pic above! So the wallscreens, are like my holograhpics project?

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Wow, I'm sure this is going to be amazing!

Well done so far, Huston

[Huston 5,799]

http://imagesus.homeaway.com/mda01/7e360f12-4e66-4f4e-8c71-4ab3e015f062.1.10

http://imagesus.homeaway.com/mda01/4c041d84-ae19-4b70-aa1a-1f2a8e61f624.1.10

 

Quick search gave that. Try looking up surrounding buildings and views from inside of them. Since a hotel is located inside 2 Times Square, the chances are weak you'll find a floor plan. In the next few days I will try my beast to dig up some photos, but I can't promise because I don't have a regular access to a computer nowadays

 

Great job and I'm really happy you're doing this.

 

Vlasky, you're a lifesaver! I could not for the life of me find a decent rooftop pic. Trying to search for pics from surrounding bldgs was even worse since I didn't know what buildings to look for. Thanks for it

 

Cool pic above! So the wallscreens, are like my holograhpics project?

 

Kind of, but now that I think of it, there may be a possiblity that I may create a version with holographic screens in place of the usual present day billboards...just to shake things up and give it my signature sci-fi tastes

[cmdp123789 710]

Maybe 2 versions? Haha so that people with a more sci fi.. And people with a classic preference can both enjoy? It's coming along pretty good... You work pretty fast..

[Huston 5,799]

Maybe 2 versions? Haha so that people with a more sci fi.. And people with a classic preference can both enjoy? It's coming along pretty good... You work pretty fast..

 

Ha, yeah, I'll probably end up doing that

 

A little update as I work on it a little bit more. This is probably my last update until after my exams. Hope you're all pleased with how it looks so far

 

Again, textures are merely there to give you an idea of how it'll look and because I like to do it during previews and helps me visualize the final product. They're definitely not final. Here are comparisons between limited textured and no texture at all. Still need to get the facades of the lower levels completed and add a few of the more prominent billboards in before I can get to work on the little details (roof junk, staircases/ladders, trusses)

 

 

Note for wannabe BATers out there: This was done in sketchup and if you have limited knowledge of 3ds Max like I do (my max knowledge is limited to material expertise), I suggest you try out Google Sketchup

[tonyr 926]

Looks great Huston!

[cmdp123789 710]

YUP YUP YUP! And you said you didnt have the skills.. yeah right!! lol 

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Wow it's looking Hustazing! I mean, amazing! 

It's going to be awesome!