Network Addon Mod (NAM) - Cross-Platform 49 (rev1)

Hi, I just downloaded SC4 Deluxe from Steam a few days ago.  Then i learned about these mods so I installed the MOD 45.

I followed the instructions so I installed the 4gb patch (already included in the NAM folder).  I chose the SC4 game file (which I suppose is under steam/games).  The patch was installed successfully.

The MOD was then installed with the JAR file.  I checked under my documents/SimCity 4/plugins and the new folder is there so I assume it was correctly installed.

But when I create a new game, it took several minutes to load then it totally CRASHED.  It kicked me out of the game.  I tried a few times with other maps and it still happened.  The game was working fine before the MOD.

Please help.

13 minutes ago, siusunsun00 said:

But when I create a new game, it took several minutes to load then it totally CRASHED.  It kicked me out of the game.  I tried a few times with other maps and it still happened.  The game was working fine before the MOD.

Hi @siusunsun00

What feature set of NAM45 did you install and what are the specifications of your computer system? The long load time the first time the game is run is not unusual depending on your Plugins set. The game crashing may mean an imcompatability between your system and the type of NAM you chose to install.

You might want to try posting in the NAM support topic if your issue is not resolved here.

 

It's solved.  I installed the wrong NAM file.

Thanks for the quick reply.

11 hours ago, siusunsun00 said:

Hi, I just downloaded SC4 Deluxe from Steam a few days ago.  Then i learned about these mods so I installed the MOD 45.

I followed the instructions so I installed the 4gb patch (already included in the NAM folder).  I chose the SC4 game file (which I suppose is under steam/games).  The patch was installed successfully.

The MOD was then installed with the JAR file.  I checked under my documents/SimCity 4/plugins and the new folder is there so I assume it was correctly installed.

But when I create a new game, it took several minutes to load then it totally CRASHED.  It kicked me out of the game.  I tried a few times with other maps and it still happened.  The game was working fine before the MOD.

Please help.

You most likely have installed the Full NAM version that requires the 4GB Patch but your computer does not have a minimum of 8 GB of RAM.

 In this case you have to install NAM without RHW or NAM Lite if you just want bugfixes and some additional basic features. If you have a computer that exceeds 8 GB of RAM then something went wrong with the 4GB Patch

Hello, I had a quick question...

I haven't played SC4D in ages and recently acquired the GOG version.  I am playing on Linux, but running the game through Wine (I couldn't get the Steam version to run in Proton, even with the command line fixes).  The last time I installed NAM was before the Java installer.  Do I need to install the JRE on Linux, or do I have to install it into my Wine install?  Thanks

I feel like I do not know how to use the RHW tiles. I've read the docs and used the RHW starter piece, I want to use the 6 lane elevated. I plop that. I don't see a specific RHW2 tile anymore, so I just use the one that says RHW button above the starter piece button, then drag it through, but it doesn't create anything. What am I doing wrong?

On 9/26/2022 at 2:43 PM, Guest bananas said:

Hello, I had a quick question...

I haven't played SC4D in ages and recently acquired the GOG version.  I am playing on Linux, but running the game through Wine (I couldn't get the Steam version to run in Proton, even with the command line fixes).  The last time I installed NAM was before the Java installer.  Do I need to install the JRE on Linux, or do I have to install it into my Wine install?  Thanks

I'm not a Linux user (though we have a few on the team, who may be able to help you better), but the current installer is not OS-specific.  It should run on any OS that can run the JRE, and should not require Wine.  The one thing you may need to watch out for is the 4GB Patch process, if you're planning on using the "full blast" install (with the Full NAM Controller that supports the RHW).  To my knowledge, you'd probably have to manually run the 4GB Patch (4gb_patch.exe) in Wine, and find your SimCity 4.exe file.

16 hours ago, jayfatl said:

I feel like I do not know how to use the RHW tiles. I've read the docs and used the RHW starter piece, I want to use the 6 lane elevated. I plop that. I don't see a specific RHW2 tile anymore, so I just use the one that says RHW button above the starter piece button, then drag it through, but it doesn't create anything. What am I doing wrong?

We did change the look of the icons a few versions ago, eliminating the text on them for internationalization purposes.  The button at the top should be the RHW network tool (which defaults to RHW-2).  If dragging RHW-2 through the starter does not result in the network converting to one of the 6-lane RHWs, and it's staying as RHW-2, that would seem to indicate you might have the "Low RAM/No RHW" NAM Controller installed, which does not include any of the code to allow the RHW starter pieces to work.

Reinstall the NAM, selecting the "4GB Full" Controller option, and also making sure that your game has been properly patched with the 4GB Patch (the .bat script should do this for you, but you can do it manually as well with the included 4gb_patch.exe file).  Installing the 4GB Full Controller without the 4GB Patch being properly applied the game's executable will cause the game to crash after loading a city.

-Tarkus

why this error?

problem

the cross of the rail with street and intersection made boxes..

FYI:  I installed it this eve and had a problem.  I guess I didn't have Java installed.  Would be nice if the installer would let you know if it can't find java.  It would run the patch and just quit with no message why.  Luckily, I read the batch file and saw what it was trying to do....

I installed Java.  After installing Java, the NAM install still didn't work!!  I guess installing Java doesn't set the JAVA_HOME environment variable. <rolleyes>  It's installed now.  Just wanted to let you know a weird case for reference.

How to fix it ?

On 10/28/2022 at 5:58 AM, :::::ConsTanTine::::: said:

How to fix it ?

that pattern isn't supported in such combination. Try using RHW-4 as the orthogonal network instead of Avenue.

9 hours ago, matias93 said:

that pattern isn't supported in such combination. Try using RHW-4 as the orthogonal network instead of Avenue.

Thank you I'll try 

Is NAM45 compatible with WIndows11?

Until last weekend, I ran SC4 ( Steam version ) with NAM44 in an old notebook ( Windows 10 environment, full compliance with NAM requirements ) without any kind of issue.

During the week, I bought a new notebook ( a gamer notebook, whose specs far exceed the requirements for NAM45 ), but with a WIndows11 environment.

Unfortunately, even after several attempts, I can not run the NAM Lite Setup File and I simply can not identify what is wrong...

Anybody else with the same issue?

Tks for your attention!

1 hour ago, Kurfurstendamm said:

Is NAM45 compatible with WIndows11?

Until last weekend, I ran SC4 ( Steam version ) with NAM44 in an old notebook ( Windows 10 environment, full compliance with NAM requirements ) without any kind of issue.

During the week, I bought a new notebook ( a gamer notebook, whose specs far exceed the requirements for NAM45 ), but with a WIndows11 environment.

Unfortunately, even after several attempts, I can not run the NAM Lite Setup File and I simply can not identify what is wrong...

Anybody else with the same issue?

Tks for your attention!

Have you checked if you have JAVA INSTALLED?

Hi, Ulisse.

I"m grateful for your reply; after it, I installed the newest version of Java on my notebook.

Anyway, even after running the NAM Setup File, the buttons / icons associated with it simply do not show up when I start a game.

Unfortunately, it seems I've made some mistake  .

6 hours ago, Kurfurstendamm said:

Hi, Ulisse.

I"m grateful for your reply; after it, I installed the newest version of Java on my notebook.

Anyway, even after running the NAM Setup File, the buttons / icons associated with it simply do not show up when I start a game.

Unfortunately, it seems I've made some mistake  .

Try using OpenJDK which has the installer included among the NAM installation files

Tried updating to the latest NAM version, and couldn't figure out how to install. Not only is there no longer the manual installer that existed in NAM 33, but the file names are so long that I can't delete it now that the mods contents have been extracted (can't delete, rename or do anything to the offending folders. I can't even shred the thing using AVG), meaning it's stuck on an older computer taking up valuable space on an already struggling and nearly full hard drive. And those few folders that were renamed are now hopelessly illegible, meaning the entire mod is probably screwed up now. Thankfully, I have the older version, but this is really frustrating. Is there any way to fix this issue? And if so how?

Also, if possible, might I request a new rule requiring a file character limit for mods, just in case there are others still operating the game on older hardware (My computer remains on the original intended version of Windows [XP], and without my own internet, I can't change that.  Naturally, I'm going to assume this version of the mod is entirely incompatible with my current hardware, so I'm just speaking mods in general with this latest bit, not necessarily this mod or others that have been around for a while and have since been updated well past the Windows XP era, and am now simply trying to figure out how to remove the update file, if it's even possible at this point)])?

Thanks.

2 hours ago, TheTimvh1 said:

Tried updating to the latest NAM version, and couldn't figure out how to install. Not only is there no longer the manual installer that existed in NAM 33, but the file names are so long that I can't delete it now that the mods contents have been extracted (can't delete, rename or do anything to the offending folders. I can't even shred the thing using AVG), meaning it's stuck on an older computer taking up valuable space on an already struggling and nearly full hard drive. And those few folders that were renamed are now hopelessly illegible, meaning the entire mod is probably screwed up now. Thankfully, I have the older version, but this is really frustrating. Is there any way to fix this issue? And if so how?

Also, if possible, might I request a new rule requiring a file character limit for mods, just in case there are others still operating the game on older hardware (My computer remains on the original intended version of Windows [XP], and without my own internet, I can't change that.  Naturally, I'm going to assume this version of the mod is entirely incompatible with my current hardware, so I'm just speaking mods in general with this latest bit, not necessarily this mod or others that have been around for a while and have since been updated well past the Windows XP era, and am now simply trying to figure out how to remove the update file, if it's even possible at this point)])?

Thanks.

Since you are upgrading from NAM 33 to NAM 45 you need to do manual procedures namely: Manually delete the Network Addon Mod and Z_NAM folders. 

Windows XP is a messy and outdated OS that severely limits the stability of SC4. SC4 performs better with modern OS systems that support SSD or SSD NVMe in addition to enjoying CPUs with fast single clock speeds and you can use 4GB of ram instead of 2 or 1.5GB of RAM that you are limited with Windows XP. 

In the survey we did recently we saw that SC4 players now use Modern Hardware and people who use Old 32 Bit Hardware are a minority. That's why we released NAM Lite which is a version that contains only bugfixes and improvements of vanilla networks without damaging the performance of old computers (There is also the NAM Controller NO RHW / NO 4GB PATCH version but it slows down performance as we add new content)

My recommendation is as follows

1 Delete the Network Addon Mod and Z_NAM folders. 
2 Install NAM Lite or NAM Controller NO 4GB PATCH / NO RHW
3 Check this video tutorial on how to Install NAM 37 or later

 

I also recommend performing a computer upgrade for better performance

The only reason I still have such an outdated computer is due to a combination of low funds, lack of a internet connection at home (directly related to the former) and a general lack of tech know-how. But yeah, once I can afford to have my own internet and therefore upgrade my hardware, I will definitely do that. Also, thanks for the tutorial mention.

Lastly, does anyone know how I can remove the updated mod from my computer? I can't get rid of it through normal means, though ironically, the issues causing this did save my plugins folder from being screwed up as well thanks to its refusal to allow me to copy and paste the mod update into said folder (a blessing in disguise, so to speak).

1 hour ago, TheTimvh1 said:

Lastly, does anyone know how I can remove the updated mod from my computer? I can't get rid of it through normal means, though ironically, the issues causing this did save my plugins folder from being screwed up as well thanks to its refusal to allow me to copy and paste the mod update into said folder (a blessing in disguise, so to speak).

Apparently, it's possible to get rid of files whose path name is too long by using 7-Zip's File Explorer.  Highlight the folder and use Shift-Delete.  7-Zip is a very useful program beyond this, too, and is very handy for compressing/decompressing files.

-Tarkus

15 hours ago, Tarkus said:

Apparently, it's possible to get rid of files whose path name is too long by using 7-Zip's File Explorer.  Highlight the folder and use Shift-Delete.  7-Zip is a very useful program beyond this, too, and is very handy for compressing/decompressing files.

-Tarkus

Thanks. I'll try that later this evening.

Where did the elevated viaduct over rhw go???

1 hour ago, dubayz89 said:

Where did the elevated viaduct over rhw go???

The newer Draggable Elevated Viaducts support crossings over RHWs (all of them, including diagonal setups), and that's now the preferred method for building them.  They're much easier and more flexible to use than the old puzzle pieces, and support many crossings the puzzle pieces don't support.

If you really must have the old puzzle piece ones, they're still around.  However, they're considered obsolete "legacy" content at this point, and given that one main criticisms we get on the NAM Team is that there's too many menu buttons, their buttons are hidden and not installed by default.  You'd need to go under 2 Additional Network Features > RealHighway > a_Legacy Supprt and check the Legacy Puzzle Piece Menu Buttons box.

-Tarkus

I tried downloading the newest NAM; however, I cannot access the ploppable highway interchanges.