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Entry III - Residential Development
TheHaso2011 posted a City Journal entry in Phoenix, Arizona - A recreation attempt
This entry is going to be fairly brief, as I haven't found much time to develop anything specifically new, so is mostly just a repeat of the previous entry. This time I have developed the residential area north-west of the mini stack interchange. The design is similar to the area south of I-10, but the amount of industry is slightly toned down, with mid-wealth residential and commercial services taking a larger role. Above is a small residential square cornered by E Palm Ln on the north side, N 18th St to the west, N 20th St to the north and E McDowell Rd to the south. The other feature that breaks up the grid pattern is the bow shaped street formed by N Whittier Dr which meets E Granada Rd to the north and E Almeria Rd to the south at their respective intersections with N 16th St. I may return later to N 16th St due to its width. Here is is picture as being 6 lanes wide, but the real life version is only 4. Above is an image of the reduced industry seen in this area of development. Most of the industry here appears along E McDowell Rd and N 16th St, mixing in with the commercial services available. Finally, some work I attempted on the mini-stack interchange. I'm getting to the point on this where I think I am going to use my free will to modify the interchange to actually work, instead of trying to make it as realistic as possible. The main problem at the moment is the flex-fly fun I{m having at the top of the image, but I think I may have a solution to that. Something to note before I leave, I have changed the texture pack, so I am now using CPT Painted Desert Terrain Mod, which I hope will give a slightly more realistic appearance to the general map. -
Entry II - Industrial + I-10 Development
TheHaso2011 posted a City Journal entry in Phoenix, Arizona - A recreation attempt
So Entry II. Since Wednesday I've made considerable progress on I-10 heading south, pretty much reaching the outer expanse of the city. Further to this, I began small amounts of zoning near the Mini'stack interchange which I developed slightly but have yet to complete. Anyway, pictures! I'll start with the zoning development I have begun just North-West of the airport, between I-10 and 16th Street. The image at the top is just some generic industry just off the I-10, sandwiched between E Washington St and E Jefferson St. Looking closer now at the map, each one is in fact one-way so I will likely revisit this later and alter accordingly. The next image is of the residential area that has developed to the north of the industry. I have tried to 'overlap' the industry and residential as much as possible, so many of the areas to the south are a mixture of residential streets and industrial roads, as seen in the second image. Just on the north side of E Washington St I managed to achieve a nice mix of commercial and residential, along with a short woodland path as a divider. Finally, an overview of the current development on that tile, cornered in by I-10 and the Mini-stack. The overview really shows the extent of the industry mixing with the residential. Moving south, I have now fully developed the UPS Car Park to the south west of Runway 08. It really fills in the gap between 24th St and I-10. That covers the extent of construction throughout the city so far, so now on to the progress I made on I-10 heading south out of the city. The progress covers three tiles, so the images below will simply be highlights of the better interchanges. This first interchange is the junction between I-10 and Route 143 (seen at the top) and the junction of I-10 with W Broadway Rd. There are some slight modifications due to proportions but overall I think it turned out quite nicely. Finally, here is the interchanges between I-10 and Route 60, which I am very pleased with. Although it is not an exact replica, it comes pretty close to it and it is possibly the most satisfying junction I have built with the RHW. The junction with S Priest Dr can also be seen at the bottom of the image. As per usual I will wrap up this entry with an overview of the progress made so far. We have currently established 5 tiles, covering the area between the Mini-stack interchange and going right down to Chandler Blvd and the area where the city ends. As always, thanks for reading. Be sure to comment any opinions or criticisms you may have, I'll try my best to address them.-
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Download the following mods: LK Appalachian Terrain (dont select: No Erosion) LK Starter Set (dont install: LK_StarterSet_Water.dat) LK Terrain Textures PEG WATER MOD Windjammer This map required the following terrain and water files: LK_AppalachianTerrain_Snow_High_Jagged.dat LK_StarterSet_Beach.dat LK_StarterSet_Cliff.dat LK_TerrainTextures_01.dat LK_WeatherTuning_Stagnant.dat PEG_WATERMOD_Windjammer_205a.dat For all SC4 players from all places... -
Hello all to my first city journal! I was recently looking for a city to model in SimCity 4 and Phoenix seemed perfect for that matter. It hasn't too much curved or diagonal roads/highways and the default architectural styles perfectly match a US American city. In addition, setting the altitude on level 8 in god mode, yields a geography similar to that found in Arizona. Therefore, I have started to build a close model of Phoenix (the highway and road system are almost identical to the real life city). So far I have worked on two cities . I have started constructing the central part of Phoenix, with its CBD. The city center has all types of corporations and public facilities like courthouse, stock exchange, museum, etc. Just as in real life, close to the CBD lies the industrial district of Phoenix. There is a mix between high-tech companies and manufacturing industry. The district is bordered by several avenues and highways. More in my next post...
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@HighTower76: Thank you! Although admittedly, Phoenix's grid network mostly laid it out for me @TekindusT: I've been following Tenements & Rust since before I left 2 years ago, and it was part of my inspiration to create my early attempts at CJ's, so that means a lot to me! @Durfsurn: Absolutely. As Compdude suggested, I'll probably just rearrange some tiles wherever it is needed, since I'd rather not sacrifice too much accuracy. As for the lack of BATs, I'm planning on trying to BAT a few things myself (Hopefully some people can help me out there), but mostly I'll just substitute similar-looking buildings in their place. @dlsni: Trying my best not to die, but it's quite difficult at times This project may be crazy, but it's a good kind of crazy. @elavery: Yes, I do plan to try BATing some of the more famous buildings (ie US Airways Center, Chase Field, Biltmore Hotel, etc), although I know a half-finished Cardinals Stadium is floating around sc4devotion... @fan o SC4: Thanks, I'll need it. @tonyr: I'm not sure where it will go myself. I'd expect it to span a couple years, if I don't lose inspiration... @Tonraq: Thanks! Laying out roads is more difficult than you'd think... @PhatHead: You just wait, there's much more to come @Schriefer: As am I. @jmsepe: Hopefully I can stay motivated / focused to see it to completion. What with school though, I'm not sure @CompDude787: I didn't even take the population factor into consideration. It should be fun to see how over-the-top it turns out to be. And yes, I think I'll have rearrange the city tiles like you said. The main reason I was avoiding it was because it would make my region management job more difficult. And luckily I don't have to worry about your Seattle problem: 14-lane HOV highways with exits every mile running through downtown. And we don't have nearly the density that Seattle does, so that helps a lot. @rewright: It is quite an undertaking. I guess I'll have to regulate my attention to detail, because otherwise I'll never get this project done. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ... ... ...aaaaaaand I've officially no longer a one-update wonder! You heard me right. I managed to design the entire downtown road network without dying. Now, let's see what I've done to said road network: Here we have our region view. As you can see, downtown is still a bit of a loner, but we'll fix that soon. Let's get closer in: We'll start off by exploring the outskirts of downtown before entering the heart of the storm. Here's the very industrial south side: As indicated, this area is a mild ghetto. You'd probably be safe walking the streets, but it's still not a good place to be alone. Enjoy that nice smooth highway for now, because I-10 is a whole different monster that I'll have to tackle in another update. This area is more what I call a "historic ghetto," in that this area is home to the earliest industrial centers that drove Phoenix's growth. As you'd expect, a railroad track (the Union Pacific Railroad) runs conveniently through this area. At the top of the picture, you can see a pretty good sign of where industry turns to commercial as roads get nicer and curvier. Phoenix has a bit of a "other side of the tracks" situation going on. For reference, the horizontally-running TLA-5 at the bottom of the picture is the same road as the one running along the top of the previous picture. Now we enter the west side. West Phoenix has a bit of a strange identity crisis going on, as its north half becomes extremely residential while its bottom half remains heavily industrial. Also, living conditions are slightly better here than those shown in the previous two pictures. As noted, you can see the terminus of Grand Avenue in the center of this picture. Grand Avenue will become an incredibly important road later on as it turns into US 60, which services much of The Valley. For reference, the pair of horizontally-running one-way roads at the bottom of the picture are the same ones running through the top of the previous. Now then, let's stop avoiding it and plunge straight in to the center, shall we? Here's downtown: Yes, it's a downer of a city center in comparison to most US cities, but it's nice nonetheless (It will be much better with buildings). Also, it's a little lonely right now thanks to the lack of a light rail system. Unfortunately, I can't install a light rail system with the current NAM limitations (maybe if we get single-track light rails). I'll go a lot further in-depth on my temporary solutions to the lack of light rail pieces in the next update. Also, just for fun, I decided to try putting labels onto each of the roads for reference sake. The results weren't half bad: All right. If you're familiar with the Phoenix area, you probably know why I've been avoiding the north side of downtown. Here's a hint: A certain highway runs through there. Well, let's take a look: Whew. You can't look at that without cringing. While I-17 is nice, flowing and easy to control (It also helps that it's a 6C highway most of the way), I-10 is... not. It is a 12-lane highway for the most part through downtown, though some stretches are 14-lane. The RHW in its current form, of course, cannot handle this, so I had to do a workaround. It doesn't help that the exit style used in Phoenix is slightly modified from a standard diamond, in that all 4 paths intersect in one spot in the middle. As you may imagine, SimCity cannot handle this in a pretty way. For now, the exits will be left as these kinds of ugly heaps until I can work out a better way to present them. Also, see the section I circled? Yep, apparently 5S lane shift pieces don't exist. So that was my temporary solution to having to move the highway down one tile. I'll go back in and redo several stretches of this highway when I muster the courage. But wait, there's more. Come visit Northwest Downtown... Yes, that picture at the top is the actual exit. If FARRHW pieces could work that smoothly in-game, I'd be set. Alas, they do not, and I'm stuck with this monstrosity. Oh well... So what's next on my to-do list besides ripping my hair out over RHW? Well, let's visit Eastern Downtown... In the center of this picture you can see my early feeble attempts at designing the Phoenix Railyard. Just so you know, the yard takes up the entirety of that empty patch in the middle of the picture. Looks like I'll need to break out some plugins to make it look right. Finally, the last thing I need to do is begin my hunt to find buildings that fit into the Phoenix style. Hopefully my search won't be in vain... ~~~~~~~ Before I end, I ask you all to respond to a little poll: How do you think I should post my future updates? My options are either to break updates into smaller chunks, and focus on one section of a city tile at a time, or I could continue doing these mass updates that show a ton of progress but are very slow to get out (and when school starts in 2 weeks, they will be much slower to get out). Let me know what you think. For now, I'll set my main focus on the railyard and fixing the highway system in North Downtown. See you soon! -Samness
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Hello and welcome to the beautiful city of Phoenix, Arizona! You are reading the first entry of a journal that is likely to be my demise. I plan to construct the entire metropolitan area as faithfully as possible. And that is a very large metropolitan area, as you'll soon realize. To start off, here are some fun facts about the city: Phoenix is the most populous US state capitol and the 6th most populous US city, containing over 1.5 million people. That number increases to 3.6 million with the addition of the surrounding urban areas. There are a total of 4.3 million people in the Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale Metropolitan Statistical Area, which is defined as Maricopa and Pinal counties (the two counties in which Phoenix resides). The city itself makes up 518 sq mi (1,338 sq km), with a density of 2,798 people/sq mi (1,080/sq km). Phoenix was settled in 1867, and has since grown rapidly. For the last 40 years, the growth rate has been nearly 4% per year. At this rate, the city is predicted to rank 4th in population by 2020. Well, that was boring. Don't worry, you can all wake up now; It's fun stuff from here on out. Today's update is focused on one thing only: Planning. After looking for a suitable region map for me to use, I settled on drunkapple's Phoenix Scale Map (thanks mate), which consists of 396 large tiles. In order to take on the challenge that a region this size presents me with, I knew that I would need to make up a very large plan of my whole network and layout. So, I found a top-down view of the region and used GIMP to place it on top of a Google map of Phoenix, and then redrew all of the city boundaries. I also started to give names to each city tile, for use in-game later on. In the end, this is the fruit of my labor: Note that every red square is a large city tile. Also, see that red rectangle at the top of the picture? This file has 282 layers (most of them are just text), and contains 12724x7891 pixels (My computer definitely had a good time with that). You should also notice that the region doesn't cover a few areas of city (Like Apache Junction, downtown Buckeye, New River, Morristown, San Tan Valley, and some of eastern Queen Creek/Mesa). However, that isn't too big of a deal, considering how much I have on my plate already (Besides, you could argue that since Apache Junction is in a different county, it isn't really part of the metro area). Besides the minor flaw mentioned above, there is one bigger and much more annoying problem: The gridlines. Since the game's city boundaries aren't designed around its cities, there are a few places where some unfortunate placement of boundaries will cause me many problems in this project. Here are two examples (both are interchanges): Yep, each of those interchanges will be located in at least 3 city tiles. Not to mention that on the bottom picture, Interstate 10 is cut straight down the middle by the border. Looks like I'll have to move some roads around a bit, or else face some serious headaches. Oh well... Well, that's about all there is to show for planning. Now it's time to get into the game itself and start working. Obviously, I'll need to start with the road networks. But we'll save that for the next update. For now, stay tuned. See you soon!! -Samness
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G'Day Simtropians, Today's map I am presenting is courtesy of a request from RageDownRodeo here at simtrop. Thanks mate. It is of Phoenix Arizona including Cave Creek, Carefree, Fountain Hills, Apache Junction, Queen Creek,Salt River [dry], South Mountain, Buckeye, White Tank Mountains, AguaFria River [dry], and Anthem. See me up CLOSE and personal. This is a real world map and measures 90.112km x 73.728km, it is terrain and scale accurate. Using 16bit map tech it's in .SC4M format and Wouanagaine's mapper is required to import it into one's game. A readme is included with links and instructions. I think that's all. Cheers- 17 Comments
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