BadPeanut: Road Modding [WIP] first look for a new bridge (SHB)

[alborzka 66]

1 hour ago, Bad Peanut said:

meanwhile: when roads require a tonne of meshes and textures, and this is only for the ground elevation of 1 asymmetric road :'(

Oh my god, and to think I was considering learning how to texture and make roads myself over the winter break! Geez D:

[Bad Peanut 826]

11 hours ago, alborzka said:

Oh my god, and to think I was considering learning how to texture and make roads myself over the winter break! Geez D:

it's still doable! the texturing and modelling is easy but it's just making the right amount of meshes for the roads, you need a new one if you have a bus stop or tram stop that requires a different platform. and then you need it going for each direction and both hence the "bus both" "bus both invert" (for LHD) "bus forward right" etc haha just time consuming but not overly difficult!

[Bad Peanut 826]

So here's a release!

All three styles of my

4+1 Lane Asymmetric Roads! <<Link

[velrox 39]

"4+1"? i only see 3 lanes on one direction and 2 lanes on other. also, i'm still waiting for 4+2 asymmetric roads. and 4+1 asymmertic roads without median.

[Bad Peanut 826]

1 hour ago, velrox said:

"4+1"? i only see 3 lanes on one direction and 2 lanes on other. also, i'm still waiting for 4+2 asymmetric roads. and 4+1 asymmertic roads without median.

Yes you've already made that demand.  Keep waiting...

As for without median these roads already perform the same function so I'm not going to entertain the thought of basically doing a massive amount of work for exactly the same thing... 

I'm sure you'll have a little cry about it though

[Bad Peanut 826]

Just now, Bad Peanut said:

Yes you've already made that demand.  Keep waiting...

As for without median these roads already perform the same function so I'm not going to entertain the thought of basically doing a massive amount of work for exactly the same thing... 

I'm sure you'll have a little cry about it though

Also - what's your idea of 4+2? I bet you're not going to like my idea of it... Hahaha

[The Urbanist 8]

On 19/11/2017 at 12:47 AM, alborzka said:

Oh my god, and to think I was considering learning how to texture and make roads myself over the winter break! Geez D:

Or you could just be lazy like me and get started using a single segment and node

[Bad Peanut 826]

22 minutes ago, UrbanistCS said:

Or you could just be lazy like me and get started using a single segment and node

baby steps lead to strong adult steps!

[velrox 39]

23 hours ago, Bad Peanut said:

Also - what's your idea of 4+2? I bet you're not going to like my idea of it... Hahaha

4+2 would be like 4+1, except there are 2 turning lanes.

[Bad Peanut 826]

10 minutes ago, velrox said:

4+2 would be like 4+1, except there are 2 turning lanes.

As in two lanes turning across traffic? Nah it won't be like that for 2 reasons: 

1: the asymmetry gets out of hand with two lanes off center (messes up the alignment of the backward lanes)

2: the game doesn't really split lanes like that so I'd be forcing people to use a mod which i like to avoid. 

 

My 4+2 will be a normal 4 lane road with 1 lane you turn across traffic and another to turn off onto

[Fistandantillus7 1]

[Bad Peanut 826]

41 minutes ago, Fistandantillus7 said:

this sort of style of road with the bike lanes off to one side is often requested however I do not see the appeal to put these in game because when this bike road connects to another AD bike road the bikes will have to cross across the stream of traffic to get to the next bike lane which will ultimately result in havoc with your traffic. they're a cool concept but I just don't think they're very game friendly

[Fistandantillus7 1]

My one way roads usually end at a T junction. If the above road turned into a two-way road across an intersection, you are right, it would cause traffic chaos.

[Fistandantillus7 1]

I think I saw something like this above, but then I could not find it so sorry if this is a duplicate idea.

[Avanya 2,605]

@Fistandantillus7 Check out this road - it's very similar to your suggestion, only there's parking and one car lane shares the tram lane.

[velrox 39]

Two-Lane Road With Parking and Small Median

don't forget it comes on 3 styles if this is released: painted median, grass median and trees and grass median.

[wasmic 111]

1 hour ago, velrox said:

Two-Lane Road With Parking and Small Median

I'm pretty sure that is already available in NExt 2... although it might be lacking the parking spaces.

[Bad Peanut 826]

1 hour ago, wasmic said:

I'm pretty sure that is already available in NExt 2... although it might be lacking the parking spaces.

yeah but i actually think it's a reasonable request because i would rather NExt just became a smaller mod for 8 cell roads (as they're the only ones that can't be made in the road editor)

[Voeille 107]

Great job on the roads! I would really like if you added tree lanes to the MT roads with monorail tracks (and of course reduce noise pollution accordingly; I don’t think I need to visualise them with that tool you linked in the first post, it’s the same as the original MT roads, just with trees), as I never use non-tree roads after I reach the milestone to unlock them.

[Bad Peanut 826]

PSA reminder: guys don't use my meshes and textures because I will get the content removed from steam. I work too hard and spend a lot of free time producing free stuff for everyone and it's a bit of a slap in the face when people think they can use my work without asking and without even acknowledging where it came from. This person actually claimed it was vanilla on one upload, and the other two didn't even bother writing that. I personally hope they lose access to their 6 yr old steam account, and serve them right.

[Manuel-ito 322]

My two cents regarding the duplicate prefabs error: Have you tried replacing the relevant .crp files in the temporary 'Workshop Staging Area' folder with the ones from the local 'Assets' folder? As in, delete the former and copy/paste the latter? This probably sounds like a dumb suggestion, but the game's workshop upload function seems to mess up many things in the files when just uploading it straight. I honestly haven't tried it with road assets, but I remember I fixed a pedestrian connection problem in one of my assets with that method.

[Bad Peanut 826]

5 hours ago, Manuel-ito said:

My two cents regarding the duplicate prefabs error: Have you tried replacing the relevant .crp files in the temporary 'Workshop Staging Area' folder with the ones from the local 'Assets' folder? As in, delete the former and copy/paste the latter? This probably sounds like a dumb suggestion, but the game's workshop upload function seems to mess up many things in the files when just uploading it straight. I honestly haven't tried it with road assets, but I remember I fixed a pedestrian connection problem in one of my assets with that method.

i don't think that would help because the steam IDs are what is affecting the naming conventions producing the duplicates, but i might investigate this

[velrox 39]

4-Lane Road with Median

i'm pretty sure it violates the rules because the lanes are too narrow.

[Bad Peanut 826]

11 hours ago, velrox said:

4-Lane Road with Median

i'm pretty sure it violates the rules because the lanes are too narrow.

unfortunately yes  i could actually make it with those measurements but i just don't think some of the wider vehicles would be happy and it would cause stand offs between lanes.

[Kearsarge 4]

11 hours ago, Bad Peanut said:

unfortunately yes  i could actually make it with those measurements but i just don't think some of the wider vehicles would be happy and it would cause stand offs between lanes.

If it helps, I've been toying around with 2.5m lanes recently and have had good luck. No standoffs or problems so far, even with industrial vehicles.

[Bad Peanut 826]

A new simple tram+bike 4 lane road! coming soon!

(still got to realign the trees at the bus stop)

as you can see they have a island platform for trams (which will only appear with a stop), bike lanes with a little dividing kerb from the rest of the road, a designated bus stop (takes over the bike lane) and trees! these are all the new vanilla trees that arrived in the free update alongside green cities (apparently - because I turned off all my DLC and they were still in the menu - can anyone confirm it's the same) Plantbox 06 is repeated 100% of the time and the tree is repeated 75% of the time (just to get a bit of irregularity). Also comes with my new tram stop props embedded just like my other tram interchange network.

give me some thoughts but generally I'm happy with the overall design/textures

[alborzka 66]

Glad someone is doing more tram and bike roads! Although, bikes and buses really shouldn't share the same space or interact with each other as it's dangerous. Considering the layout you have now, it may be best to swap the curbs (bike path / road barrier) and the bushes (bike path / sidewalk barrier) with each other as this gives better protection for cyclists anyway, and then have a bus stop design similar to the one below (just replace parking with bushes lol) so it'd be a constant barrier (no shape changing needed) like bushes/trees/grass__pavement for bus stop__bushes/trees/grass. This is best practise globally as well as in the Netherlands which has a lot of bike use. Either way, happy to see more of these roads!

 

 

[wasmic 111]

That's beautiful. So much better than the vanilla tram road.

[Bad Peanut 826]

3 hours ago, alborzka said:

Glad someone is doing more tram and bike roads! Although, bikes and buses really shouldn't share the same space or interact with each other as it's dangerous. Considering the layout you have now, it may be best to swap the curbs (bike path / road barrier) and the bushes (bike path / sidewalk barrier) with each other as this gives better protection for cyclists anyway, and then have a bus stop design similar to the one below (just replace parking with bushes lol) so it'd be a constant barrier (no shape changing needed) like bushes/trees/grass__pavement for bus stop__bushes/trees/grass. This is best practise globally as well as in the Netherlands which has a lot of bike use. Either way, happy to see more of these roads!

 

 

 interesting point to make. And i agree it would be ideal but they're are plenty of roads as globally used that do have buses share bikes.  In reality the bios just give way to buses if a bus pulls into the stop. 

I think i will keep it how it is purely because if i did your suggestion you'd lose a car lane to fit it in the 32m width.  Maybe when i feel comfortable breaking out of the vanilla grid i might make these sorts of roads. 

Thanks

[alborzka 66]

1 hour ago, Bad Peanut said:

 interesting point to make. And i agree it would be ideal but they're are plenty of roads as globally used that do have buses share bikes.  In reality the bios just give way to buses if a bus pulls into the stop. 

I think i will keep it how it is purely because if i did your suggestion you'd lose a car lane to fit it in the 32m width.  Maybe when i feel comfortable breaking out of the vanilla grid i might make these sorts of roads. 

Thanks

Just to clarify, the idea I was suggesting wouldn't necessarily need to lose a car lane or require anything to be refitted, it's simply swapping the two curbs (grass outside instead of in), and bus stops would then be on the "grass" (converted to pavement at the stop itself) without changing the shape or etc. The bus would stay in-lane and not pull in/out of a stop. Still, excited to see what you make next