BadPeanut: Road Modding [WIP] first look for a new bridge (SHB)

[alborzka 66]

Here's another 32m design:

https://streetmix.net/AlborzRezapoor/20/4-lane-median-w-parking-and-bikes

 

[alborzka 66]

An asymmetrical version of the above street:

https://streetmix.net/AlborzRezapoor/21/32-lane-median-w-parking-and-bikes

 

[alborzka 66]

Finally, a 6-lane version (can be without trees):

https://streetmix.net/AlborzRezapoor/22/6-lane-median-w-parking-and-bikes

 

[alborzka 66]

Also, a 4-lane with median and shared tram/bus lanes (yes, buses would have to board via the median aka on their left-side, but still it could be an option maybe? If not, just tram is OK.)

Can be without trees.

OK last one for today lol

https://streetmix.net/AlborzRezapoor/23/4-lane-median-w-trambus-and-bike-lanes

 

[Bad Peanut 826]

7 hours ago, alborzka said:

Also, I forgot to mention, 1m width for a bike lane is way too small --- absolute bare minimum width should be 1.4m, and ideally over 1.8m, this is from guidelines in Canada and Europe. Still, glad you're focusing on bike infra!

hahaha whereas where I live they are really that small! We'll see if it works in the game and if it does then I'm sure it'll be fine! maybe all the bikes will go single file hahaha

[Bad Peanut 826]

asymmetric tram/car road: https://streetmix.net/-/574937

[alborzka 66]

A 16m one-way road with bi-directional cycle lanes:

https://streetmix.net/AlborzRezapoor/24/small-one-way-with-bikes-and-parking

 

 

[alborzka 66]

A 16m 2-way road with centre lane and bike lanes:

https://streetmix.net/AlborzRezapoor/25/small-2-lane-with-centre-lane-and-bikes

 

[Bad Peanut 826]

8 hours ago, alborzka said:

A 16m 2-way road with centre lane and bike lanes:

https://streetmix.net/AlborzRezapoor/25/small-2-lane-with-centre-lane-and-bikes

 

I'm not too sure if this would be achievable but would you like this but asymmetric instead of the center turning lane? That I think would work, it would be just like the current MT asymmetric but with bike lanes added on the sides

[alborzka 66]

22 minutes ago, Bad Peanut said:

I'm not too sure if this would be achievable but would you like this but asymmetric instead of the center turning lane? That I think would work, it would be just like the current MT asymmetric but with bike lanes added on the sides

It can be asymmetrical instead, sure, but why can't it be achievable? There's already a road with a centre lane in NEXT2, no?

[Bad Peanut 826]

7 minutes ago, alborzka said:

It can be asymmetrical instead, sure, but why can't it be achievable? There's already a road with a centre lane in NEXT2, no?

Yes, but that doesn't always work reliably (sometimes traffic turns into those lanes instead of only using them to turn out of) and I think that NEXT2 adds actual gameplay that's not in the vanilla/DLCs so it obviously won't be in the modding tool (unless they're adding new features as well??) I guess we'll see but i will plan on doing the asymmetric as there's no reason why that definitely wouldn't work (unless they keep asymmetric as DLC only - meaning it can't be modded)

[mgomrjsurf 16]

I'm trying to give a Road a Name but Road Namer is one of the Mods giving an Error Meassge and also trying to edit a District and done it before.

[Bad Peanut 826]

4 minutes ago, mgomrjsurf said:

I'm trying to give a Road a Name but Road Namer is one of the Mods giving an Error Meassge and also trying to edit a District and done it before.

Why are you posting here, this isn't a thread regarding this. 
As a side note: you know road naming is in the vanilla game right? you shouldn't have any mods doing it as they would cause errors...

[mgomrjsurf 16]

Thanks but doesn't show up in Options like Find it and so on Mode does.

[Bad Peanut 826]

9 minutes ago, mgomrjsurf said:

Thanks but doesn't show up in Options like Find it and so on Mode does.

I have no idea what you're talking about, it's in the same options menu as the day night cycle option. If you don't have it then it probably means you're using  a pirated version and if that's the case I'm not impressed

[Bad Peanut 826]

https://streetmix.net/-/574937

something to pair with the NExt Small Avenue

[Bad Peanut 826]

https://streetmix.net/-/575804

[alborzka 66]

1 hour ago, Bad Peanut said:

https://streetmix.net/-/575804

Maybe there can be a shared tram/bus version of this as well?

[Bad Peanut 826]

1 hour ago, alborzka said:

Maybe there can be a shared tram/bus version of this as well?

I don't know if having a single "bus priority" lanes works, because technically bus lanes still allow normal cars if it's the only route for them (eg when they turn off) so this might just end up being a normal car lane with bikes, but if it can be done then maybe I will consider it. I'd rather not double up too much on the same function/layouts instead I'd rather give a better variation.
That being said I'm still just brainstorming and see what ones are more responded too

[alborzka 66]

Also, just some FYIs from my own experience:

• For sharrow lanes, I'm not sure if you've used blaremc's New Roads for NEXT2 but whenever there's a bike in front of the bus the bus goes at the same speed as the bike. (As an aside, cyclists hate sharing bike infra with buses bc of the danger from blind spots at stops and size differences, but everyone has their own preferences for road layouts so I'm sure someone will find these useful regardless )
• Whenever there's a lot of bikes on a bike lane, they overflow into the traffic lane -- they don't go single/double file, and this then slows down traffic in that lane since they go at the same speed as the bikes blocking them. I forgot to say that earlier, but that's another reason why I think one-way bike lanes should be above 1.4m (ideally 2m).

I hope I don't sound ike I'm <censored> all over your ideas lol, because they're great and I do love the fact that you're taking initiative to work on these roads! I just want to share my experience with roads in C:S, and also what I've read in CROW (Dutch cycle guidelines) and other city guidelines, in the hopes that it may help you or someone else in designing roads

[Bad Peanut 826]

4 hours ago, alborzka said:

Also, just some FYIs from my own experience:

• For sharrow lanes, I'm not sure if you've used blaremc's New Roads for NEXT2 but whenever there's a bike in front of the bus the bus goes at the same speed as the bike. (As an aside, cyclists hate sharing bike infra with buses bc of the danger from blind spots at stops and size differences, but everyone has their own preferences for road layouts so I'm sure someone will find these useful regardless )
• Whenever there's a lot of bikes on a bike lane, they overflow into the traffic lane -- they don't go single/double file, and this then slows down traffic in that lane since they go at the same speed as the bikes blocking them. I forgot to say that earlier, but that's another reason why I think one-way bike lanes should be above 1.4m (ideally 2m).

I hope I don't sound ike I'm <censored> all over your ideas lol, because they're great and I do love the fact that you're taking initiative to work on these roads! I just want to share my experience with roads in C:S, and also what I've read in CROW (Dutch cycle guidelines) and other city guidelines, in the hopes that it may help you or someone else in designing roads

nah no <censored> haha it's good to have the discourse, plus you're right about the speeds, but I don't think the smaller widths will make much difference as the bikes aren't constantly in the way (and it's fun to think it's simulating bikes weaving in front of traffic and the cars having to slam on brakes hahaa)

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Here is my Idea for an One-Way Lane with Trams.

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[alborzka 66]

I've been thinking about the way that dedicated median-running transit lanes work in the game, as whenever there's a stop on them all the buses have to wait until the bus in front of them moves (they can't pass like they can in normal roads, as there's no "indent" made for the stop for the bus to pull into to allow buses behind to pass). So, I came up with this transit centre-boarding median (used by buses and trams, can be without grass and trees):

32m Centre-Boarding Transit Road with Bypassing Lanes

 

This way, each time a stop is made it allows other buses (or trams, but more likely to be used by buses) to pass. As an example, here is where a stop is shared on one or both sides of the median, allowing other vehicles to pass:

Example of Shared Stop on Transit Road with Bypassing Lanes

[alborzka 66]

As an alternative, I've made a 40m road (btw, the zoning *does* work correctly as 40m roads are used in blaremc's mod and even though the tiny road zoning is messed, the 40m wide roads actually work fine and zone properly with all the other roads) where boarding is from the right:

40m Right-Boarding Transit Road with Bypassing Lanes

 

Again, this next image shows how stops can be made on one or even on both sides while allowing transit vehicles to pass:

Example of Adjacent Stops on Right-Boarding Transit Road with Bypassing Lanes

[boformer 3,169]

3 hours ago, alborzka said:

This way, each time a stop is made it allows other buses (or trams, but more likely to be used by buses) to pass. As an example, here is where a stop is shared on one or both sides of the median, allowing other vehicles to pass:

Example of Shared Stop on Transit Road with Bypassing Lanes

That would require buses with doors on both sides.

[alborzka 66]

3 hours ago, boformer said:

That would require buses with doors on both sides.

Yes, it would (or buses with left-side boarding doors). Many BRT systems have those.

[alborzka 66]

Another 32m example of a dedicated transit road with bypassing lanes (for trams or buses, or just buses); stops function the same as the last 40m example I posted:

32m Right-Boarding Rapid Transit Road with Bypassing Lanes