Adrianor's Latin American BATs

[Gn_leugim 858]

odd thing, only now I notice that your row houses fit 3 in a 2wide lot, not a very common arrangement I shall say

lattest addition, as always, they look very nice.

have you though of doing more dirty indutrial buildings? most we have now are a it US biased so would be nice to see more, not so US-biased. I have some in the back-burner waiting for a day to be released, or to be finished too now that I think

[Adrianor 628]

4 hours ago, T Wrecks said:

Hey, talk about variation! You know, this one could even double as an IRM W2W building...

Hm, yes, it would fit quite nicely I think. You did an amazing job btw, huge fan of w2w buildings.

2 hours ago, matias93 said:

Going by parts:

I think the owners ironed the façades because of maintenance costs, particularly on the unstable Argentinian economy: to keep all those folds clean and free from destructive bird nests should be very expensive. On the other hand, at this side of the Andes, no work is needed to flatten façades: ornaments fall by themselves frequently or simply aren't even added, to much earthquakes, you know...

And yes, think on versatility: aside from a IM warehouse (even repeated on a big lot), a vitrina prop could make a good CS$ shop, or it could perfectly be a fire station. Even it could fit a London styled metro station  entrance. Or an small theatre modded as an art gallery or CS$$

Yeah, always gotta consider earthquakes for basically everything...Part of life.

I hadn't even thought of all these ideas! I'll make sure to include different versions of this particular building. I could even release it by itself, still gotta decide on that.

[simlacroix 274]

17 hours ago, Adrianor said:

@simlacroix Interesting, it really is a shame that such changes happened. I do wonder why the ornementations and details were intentionally removed, there must have been a reason right? I'll keep in mind what you said for future BATs.

That was the case in my house, we had to remove the decoratives mensulas that were under the terrace at the top of the facade fue to humidity and so much more, the house is from 1940, or even older, I don't know exactly, my dad keeps all the documents, when we bought from my grandparents (they use to rent the place, they never lived there) we did major improvements and changes, beneath the pine floor we keep finding old coins, it was a custom to hide some before putting the floor, so yes, that happen mostly to avoid costs but nowadays the city goverment when that's possibly (on the historical buildings) to recreate those changes, in some cases, they were succesful. 

 

[Adrianor 628]

5 hours ago, Gn_leugim said:

odd thing, only now I notice that your row houses fit 3 in a 2wide lot, not a very common arrangement I shall say

lattest addition, as always, they look very nice.

have you though of doing more dirty indutrial buildings? most we have now are a it US biased so would be nice to see more, not so US-biased. I have some in the back-burner waiting for a day to be released, or to be finished too now that I think

Oops, forgot to reply to you!

Thanks, yeah you're right, a lot of industrial buildings that have been released are based on the US.

I was thinking of modeling w2w (surprise, surprise) warehouses like these in Brazil. Personally, I think they can fit in almost any setting, and they would be quite useful for me to quickly provide jobs in mostly residential neighborhoods (I've been having some problems with commute times).

Hopefully you can finish your projects soon, I'm always looking for new ID buildings.  

 

 

3 hours ago, simlacroix said:

That was the case in my house, we had to remove the decoratives mensulas that were under the terrace at the top of the facade fue to humidity and so much more, the house is from 1940, or even older, I don't know exactly, my dad keeps all the documents, when we bought from my grandparents (they use to rent the place, they never lived there) we did major improvements and changes, beneath the pine floor we keep finding old coins, it was a custom to hide some before putting the floor, so yes, that happen mostly to avoid costs but nowadays the city goverment when that's possibly (on the historical buildings) to recreate those changes, in some cases, they were succesful. 

I can imagine that one may need to do extra maintenance or changes when owning an older house (I myself have never lived in an old house). With all the changes in your house that you've mentioned, it would be interesting to model a building in its original state (I'd use old photos as reference) and in its current state... but it's just a thought.

[simlacroix 274]

On 6/10/2016 at 3:04 PM, simlacroix said:

That was the case in my house, we had to remove the decoratives mensulas that were under the terrace at the top of the facade fue to humidity and so much more, the house is from 1940, or even older, I don't know exactly, my dad keeps all the documents, when we bought from my grandparents (they use to rent the place, they never lived there) we did major improvements and changes, beneath the pine floor we keep finding old coins, it was a custom to hide some before putting the floor, so yes, that happen mostly to avoid costs but nowadays the city goverment when that's possibly (on the historical buildings) to recreate those changes, in some cases, they were succesful. 

I can imagine that one may need to do extra maintenance or changes when owning an older house (I myself have never lived in an old house). With all the changes in your house that you've mentioned, it would be interesting to model a building in its original state (I'd use old photos as reference) and in its current state... but it's just a thought.

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The façade has not changed unless you count those minors details I told you about, now, when it comes to the rooms design et al, I have no idea since I haven't seen the plans yet but I have guessed it won't for the house it is in a very unusual terrain, it's a parallelepiped and so is the house next to us which is a copy, we've always joked the architect was on drugs when he design these houses for the distribution is odd to say the least but it was those days idea, noone would do a bathroom without a window, etc. I should check the architect's name. I never did, I'll look once I leave the builing tomorrow, his signature should be somewhere on the wall. 

Off topic, this is a building I'd love to see here, it's our Decorative Arts museum, it used the be house of the Errazuriz Alvear family, it's pretty much unchanged except they added a wing on the garden trying to imitate the rest of the building but it in doing so they ruined the symmety which means everything to the École des Beaux Arts this house was designed in. (www.mnad.org, just in case)

[matias93 7,535]

Is just me or this virtual trip to Buenos Aires is taking Debussyman-esque proportions?

And those warehouses would be perfect as ID and IM modulars, but also can be modded as a recycling centre, only not the kind where people goes to dump a couple of bottles, but the ones that buy bulks from cartoneros.

[Gn_leugim 858]

10 hours ago, Adrianor said:

Oops, forgot to reply to you!

Thanks, yeah you're right, a lot of industrial buildings that have been released are based on the US.

I was thinking of modeling w2w (surprise, surprise) warehouses like these in Brazil. Personally, I think they can fit in almost any setting, and they would be quite useful for me to quickly provide jobs in mostly residential neighborhoods (I've been having some problems with commute times).

Hopefully you can finish your projects soon, I'm always looking for new ID buildings. 

No problem man

Those buildings you've located in Brazil are just perfect I have to say. I've looked around and I have not found good examples, you have though.

At this point my BAT is busy with something else let's say...   I'm making props, for PT thematic loting (as well textures for LE). And I guess you might found some of them useful too But is in a very early stage and I don't press much time on them, so... 

 

[simlacroix 274]

16 hours ago, matias93 said:

Is just me or this virtual trip to Buenos Aires is taking Debussyman-esque proportions?

And those warehouses would be perfect as ID and IM modulars, but also can be modded as a recycling centre, only not the kind where people goes to dump a couple of bottles, but the ones that buy bulks from cartoneros.

You are right, it's a pity that some architects still view this city as just empty lots disregarding the previous history and beauty of the buildings that still exists, some of them. Some old pictures for you to look at:

And I promise I won't keep chatting about my city.

[Edvarz 1,985]

Primero que nada: ¡excelente trabajo! es agradable ver a otro hermano latino haciendo contenido de calidad acá en Simtropolis.

I hadn't seen your thread or your BATs before (I took kind of a vacation from Simtropolis) I'll be downloading them as soon as I can, but I can already see them in many of my cities, congratulations on your great work and your promising projects. I'll look forward to seeing more.

On a side note, after you've picked up a couple of ideas from Buenos Aires, maybe I can interest you to explore Mexico City's colonia Roma? It has a similar kind of architecture with beautiful neoclassical, french-inspired palacetes.

Sigue así y saludos desde México

[Adrianor 628]

On 10/6/2016 at 8:59 PM, simlacroix said:

The façade has not changed unless you count those minors details I told you about, now, when it comes to the rooms design et al, I have no idea since I haven't seen the plans yet but I have guessed it won't for the house it is in a very unusual terrain, it's a parallelepiped and so is the house next to us which is a copy, we've always joked the architect was on drugs when he design these houses for the distribution is odd to say the least but it was those days idea, noone would do a bathroom without a window, etc. I should check the architect's name. I never did, I'll look once I leave the builing tomorrow, his signature should be somewhere on the wall. 

Off topic, this is a building I'd love to see here, it's our Decorative Arts museum, it used the be house of the Errazuriz Alvear family, it's pretty much unchanged except they added a wing on the garden trying to imitate the rest of the building but it in doing so they ruined the symmety which means everything to the École des Beaux Arts this house was designed in. (www.mnad.org, just in case)

Oh, I like it! I should be able to make it, it would be my largest project ever. But, this project would be a long term goal, so don't expect it anytime soon. I want to focus on much need "filler" buildings for now.

 

On 10/7/2016 at 0:03 AM, matias93 said:

Is just me or this virtual trip to Buenos Aires is taking Debussyman-esque proportions?

And those warehouses would be perfect as ID and IM modulars, but also can be modded as a recycling centre, only not the kind where people goes to dump a couple of bottles, but the ones that buy bulks from cartoneros.

Ah, another great but now inactive batter...(as far as I know). I'd love to reach his level soon!

I agree, I want to pick warehouses that are as versatile as possible. 

 

On 10/7/2016 at 5:15 AM, Gn_leugim said:

No problem man

Those buildings you've located in Brazil are just perfect I have to say. I've looked around and I have not found good examples, you have though.

At this point my BAT is busy with something else let's say...   I'm making props, for PT thematic loting (as well textures for LE). And I guess you might found some of them useful too But is in a very early stage and I don't press much time on them, so... 

 

Thanks! I don't know what I would do without google street view...

No rush man, it's also nice that you're working on other things.

 

On 10/7/2016 at 5:08 PM, simlacroix said:

You are right, it's a pity that some architects still view this city as just empty lots disregarding the previous history and beauty of the buildings that still exists, some of them. Some old pictures for you to look at:

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And I promise I won't keep chatting about my city.

It really is a phenomenon that occurs in many other cities unfortunately...

And don't worry, I like reading other people's thoughts on topics such as this one, and I'm sure others do too. So, no need to stop.

On 10/8/2016 at 3:12 AM, Edvarz said:

Primero que nada: ¡excelente trabajo! es agradable ver a otro hermano latino haciendo contenido de calidad acá en Simtropolis.

I hadn't seen your thread or your BATs before (I took kind of a vacation from Simtropolis) I'll be downloading them as soon as I can, but I can already see them in many of my cities, congratulations on your great work and your promising projects. I'll look forward to seeing more.

On a side note, after you've picked up a couple of ideas from Buenos Aires, maybe I can interest you to explore Mexico City's colonia Roma? It has a similar kind of architecture with beautiful neoclassical, french-inspired palacetes.

Sigue así y saludos desde México

¡Muchas gracias, me alegro que te gusten mis BATs!

I do want to try to cover as many latin american cities as possible, but it will take some time as I'm basically a "one man army". I have heard of Colonia Roma before, and I think the LBT even made a couple of buildings based on that neighborhood. I will certainly explore it more in detail. 

[AndisArt 2,068]

Oh great more latin american buildings!

And those Buenos Aires buildings are wow

[Adrianor 628]

6 hours ago, andisart said:

Oh great more latin american buildings!

And those Buenos Aires buildings are wow

Not sure if you are referring to my BATs or the actual buildings in the pictures...but thanks for stopping by! I won't be stopping anytime soon, so you can expect plenty of more content this year.

[Adrianor 628]

The last building in the pack is finally done:

  

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To my surprise, the texture of the slanted roof, which is one of the default maxis textures that comes with GMAX, looks pretty decent. I only had to modify it slightly.

I also have yet to bat the small building next to it (this one) so that both buildings fit perfectly in a 1x2 lot. I'll be releasing the pack hopefully this weekend.

 

[rsc204 21,866]

Really great work, keep it up .

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Very nice!

[AndisArt 2,068]

good job! keep it up! maybe also consider to release as a pack with many BATs that you can create a whole latin neighborhood with? that would be handy I think for many people to download, compared to finding many indiviudal uploads for instance.

[Adrianor 628]

@rsc204 and @JP Schriefer thank you guys!

15 minutes ago, andisart said:

good job! keep it up! maybe also consider to release as a pack with many BATs that you can create a whole latin neighborhood with? that would be handy I think for many people to download, compared to finding many indiviudal uploads for instance.

Thanks! That's actually the idea, this last building will be part of the CO$$ pack porteño 1, which shall include the following buildings (all based on real buildings located in Buenos Aires):

I could include additional buildings to make it more complete, but I get easily bored from batting similar type of buildings... Plus, I want to move forward and start with another small pack that I have in mind...You'll find out soon enough.

[korver 27,686]

Looks great as always

[Adrianor 628]

@korver: Thanks man!

 

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I changed my mind about the next pack. I'm creating a poll so that you guys get to choose which pack I should work on next. I'm giving you three choices:

 

CS$$ Pack Limeño 1: Restored colonial buildings in the historical center of Lima that now serve as retail stores

Example: 

 

 

ID/IM Pack Brasileiro 1: Old and grimy w2w warehouses from Brazil. No particular city.

Example:

 

 

R$$($?) Pack Capitalino 1: One to two story homes located in Colonia Roma, Mexico city. 

Example:

[rathefalcon 395]

Great BATs! They're distinctly Latin American but quite frankly I think they would look great in any city

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

I voted for the Limeño Pack, those buildings look very nice.

[Adrianor 628]

@rathefalcon: Thanks! Yes, I think most a lot of buildings in Buenos Aires are quite versatile and could fit well in most western countries.

@JP Schriefer: They are indeed. Plus, they don't look too terribly complicated to BAT, which is good for me 

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I'll probably close the poll either tomorrow or on Sunday. For now, it seems that the limean colonial pack will be the winner. 

In-game pictures: 

  

 

 

Some notes:

- I'm including two versions of the corner building as you can see: version 1 includes a small house and version 2 includes a small parking lot. These types of "informal" (can't find the precise word) parking lots are very common in many latin american cities, especially so in downtown areas/historical centers.

- I tried to use the maxis store facades for the 1x3 building but they didn't look too good IMO. So, apart from a CO$$ version, I will include two more versions: a functioning parking garage and a fire station, as suggested by matias93.

- For the smallest building, I'll also include a R$$ version.

 

[Edvarz 1,985]

I've submitted my vote, but I'll eventually download all of the packs anyway.

And by the way, the "pack porteño" also looks really nice, looking forward to seeing it on the STEX.

Now, if you allow me a suggestion, for the "pack capitalino" I think it would be best if the buildings were either all R$$ or a mix of R$/R$$; there aren't many medium wealth latin american buildings out there, plus, colonia Roma has seen a recent "gentrification" process (seriously, place's full of hipsters) so making it predominantly medium wealth should be realistic.

[Adrianor 628]

3 minutes ago, Edvarz said:

I've submitted my vote, but I'll eventually download all of the packs anyway.

And by the way, the "pack porteño" also looks really nice, looking forward to seeing it on the STEX.

Now, if you allow me a suggestion, for the "pack capitalino" I think it would be best if the buildings were either all R$$ or a mix of R$/R$$; there aren't many medium wealth latin american buildings out there, plus, colonia Roma has seen a recent "gentrification" process (seriously, place's full of hipsters) so making it predominantly medium wealth should be realistic.

Thanks! Your suggestion is very much appreciated and I will follow it, it's always good to hear from locals. I did read about the hipsters living there...reminds of me Barranco in Lima, it's also full of hipsters, very nice district nonetheless.

[matias93 7,535]

53 minutes ago, Adrianor said:

I tried to use the maxis store facades for the 1x3 building but they didn't look too good IMO.

If I don't remember wrong, @Edvarz was diving through the LBT prop packs and in some of his images there appear some vitrines. Maybe they could work better? I think the porteño corner building could also benefit from them, or at least from a billboard on the second floor balcony, as there is one on the RL building.

Anyway, all the projects and completed lots are simply fantastical and a huge add to very unrepresented parts of our cities. Keep the great work going!

[Adrianor 628]

1 hour ago, matias93 said:

If I don't remember wrong, @Edvarz was diving through the LBT prop packs and in some of his images there appear some vitrines. Maybe they could work better? I think the porteño corner building could also benefit from them, or at least from a billboard on the second floor balcony, as there is one on the RL building.

Anyway, all the projects and completed lots are simply fantastical and a huge add to very unrepresented parts of our cities. Keep the great work going!

Ah, ok, I'll look for the props and see what I can find. I'll report back in a bit.

And, thank you for your continuous support! 

[Edvarz 1,985]

2 hours ago, Adrianor said:

reminds of me Barranco in Lima, it's also full of hipsters, very nice district nonetheless.

Yeah, I googled it and it is indeed beautiful, I guess every city has those kinds of "cool" districts.

@matias93 Is this the image you were referring to?

If so, I think you mistook the "portones" below the kiosks for vitrines

[Silur 3,308]

I  love cheap and dirty house to begin development. There is a "Bisha Bishero" and something from BLaM (Onlyplace 4). There are a wild number of CS$$$ buildings that will never be in SC4. Thank You.

[AndisArt 2,068]

good work my friend! also great detail addition with parking lot. About using other props, I'd stay away from using too many dependencies since that turns off people also from downloading. I always prefer to have no dependencies at all on my downloads.

About the three choices, I like all of them and would like to see all realized. I'm not aware of the availble lation BATs out there, maybe it's worth considering also to do next what is most needed in terms of type.

[Adrianor 628]

1 hour ago, Silur said:

I  love cheap and dirty house to begin development. There is a "Bisha Bishero" and something from BLaM (Onlyplace 4). There are a wild number of CS$$$ buildings that will never be in SC4. Thank You.

I'm not quite sure I understand you, but if you're looking for cheap and dirty housing then you might like this pack that the LBT made almost 10 years ago (...pretty long time ago) (you must be registered first). As for CS$$$ buildings, I don't have any plans regarding them for the moment. Who knows, maybe I'll model some in the future.

20 minutes ago, andisart said:

good work my friend! also great detail addition with parking lot. About using other props, I'd stay away from using too many dependencies since that turns off people also from downloading. I always prefer to have no dependencies at all on my downloads.

About the three choices, I like all of them and would like to see all realized. I'm not aware of the availble lation BATs out there, maybe it's worth considering also to do next what is most needed in terms of type.

Thank you! Yes, I know that having too many dependencies drives people away (myself included), so I'm only sticking to one prop pack (LBT mega prop pack) for all my future uploads.

Yeah, in terms of type I'd say there aren't that many CS buildings in general, but I might be mistaken. Also, in terms of density, more medium density buildings are needed. Lastly, I also tend to model what I need most in my cities.... I'd like to hear what everyone thinks is needed the most though!

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I'm uploading the pack in a bit, gonna have dinner first. Here are the latest pictures. Only some minor changes.