Reddonquixote's BAT thread

[MushyMushy 3,617]

Red, if you send me that future-like eco building I think I could finish it for you. I have some ideas of my own for it!

I think some people were posting about it above: Reddon moved over to SC4D for various reasons a little while back. If you want to ask him about that building (which I thought was pretty awesome as well) you should probably post a message on his thread there; I don't think he checks for replies on ST anymore.

Here's a link: https://www.sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=16925.msg495321;topicseen#new

  Edited June 26, 2015 by MushyMushy  

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Guys keep calm. Reddon will come back. I've talked to him via email.

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Hi everyone, its been quite a while since I last logged in, time flies 

I actually logged in to download Droric's gamma fix off the STEX and thought I'd share something while I'm here - Bastet asked me to finish off a BAT he started, its a residential apartment block from Brazil.

If you get a chance let me know what you think. I should have it up on the STEX once I've done the nightlights (and worked out how to export non-albino BATs)

 

[Fantozzi 4,067]

That's so nice showing up again. It's something good when - from time to time - people who did so much for this community simply say 'hello, I'm doing well'. At least me - I miss people like you.

Now you brought even a present for us - and this is also very kind. 

So very first I have to say: thank you.

 

The building looks absolutely great. On the third picture on the darker grey texture (in this picture on the left) the texture looks moiré, meanwhile on the second picture it doesn't, so I'm not shure, maybe it's only a result of the jpg-compression of the picture. Same with the water texture of the pool (on second picture it seems moiré but not on fourth).

Including palm trees in the model may limit usability to regions with mild climates while leaving it to props/lotting offers the possibility to adjust this to personal needs.

One may say that's nitpicking. And yes, it is. It is like with looking pictures of beautiful women. Just to hide you are overwhelmed by her beauty, just to show you aren't breathless and instead cool and  a 'total professional' ... you open your mouth and say something like 'but her ears are a little bit small, aren't they?'

So this might be the case also here. I'm already too much in love with this bat to make a serious comment.

The field is interesting - I can't recognize what sports it is for. But I'm curious to know. 

 

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Hi Fantozzi!

Yes, thanks for that.. I agree about the dark grey granite. I deliberately made the pattern more visible to accentuate the speckle in the stone, but you're right, I didn't notice it looks a bit repetitive on the highly reflective angle. Speaking of which, I also made the dark granite highly polished as it is in RL, but again, I've overdone it on some angles. I didn't notice the pool tiles either until you mentioned it. Thanks for your feedback, its very helpful

I will fix!

Oh, btw I'm pretty sure the court is basketball, but I don't really know sports very well.

[JP Schriefer 5,590]

I don't know which one is better, this new model or you appearing here on ST again

If it helps, I was taking a look on Google Earth and I believe the court is futsal - like football, but played on a court - basketball and volleyball. It's very common to have courts with these 3 sports marking lines here. So in the middle of the court there's a circle useful to futsal and basketball instead of that rectangle (I noticed it looks like a rectangle on GE but it's probably distorted there). In the blue and green areas there are the keys from basketball. Also there are 2 futsal goals and 2 basketball hoops in each side

[Thin White Duke 4,072]

My day = made

Good to see you back on simtropolis.

[gutterclub 2,729]

Looking great, the brick or concrete material seems too reflective..its reflecting the pool scene etc..

Would be great to see some activity on those balconies, the usual to bring it too life..chairs, tables, plants..otherwise, yup looks awesome and great to see you back here

[Bastet69008 1,102]

10 hours ago, gutterclub said:

Looking great, the brick or concrete material seems too reflective..its reflecting the pool scene etc..

Would be great to see some activity on those balconies, the usual to bring it too life..chairs, tables, plants..otherwise, yup looks awesome and great to see you back here

Well, although the textures are slightly brighter than the original, condo buildings in many regions of Brazil are covered in ceramic tiles that are bright and reflect the sunshine which makes the building super shiny at some times of the day, in that sense that's a pretty realistic texturing

[gutterclub 2,729]

Well then the reflections should carry on all the way through (e.g reflect a ground pane)..I would also imagine they wouldn't be as clear and would be duller and slightly distorted..by all means some pics would be great to see how much it reflects, I am sure I might be wrong

 

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Thanks for all those comments, they are very helpful.

I've actually spent more time on this BAT than originally intended, but seeing as I've spent the time already I may as well try to make it somewhat good.

• I've darkened the reflections in the granite so they aren't as bright and crisp, and changed the base material so the pattern is more even.
• I think I've improved the pool tiles so they aren't so repetitive, and while I could probably do a better job of the water itself, that's really as much time as I want to spend on it.
• I've placed furniture on the balconies, it was looking a bit soulless left bare, and not really much work to be honest, so good suggestion, thanks!
• Lastly, I did a bit more work on the glass, it was a bit too transparent before.
• Futsal! Well there you go. Seeing as no one knows what it is I've left the centre as a rectangle, but there are basketball hoops at each end.

And good news, the gamma fix worked and I can successfully export BATs now. (Thanks Droric, where ever you are )

Unless any burning objections, I'm going to work on the nightlights, then get back to my own projects

[Fantozzi 4,067]

All I can say - when I opened this page I swear I heard my (sometimes underbreded) plugin folder suddenly smirking: "come on in,  cutie pie, I'll fly you to whatever city you want."

[sencillo1 47]

love it looks great.

[raynev1 1,886]

Looks great and I'm glad to see you back .

[Jasoncw 11,840]

This is absolutely not a burning objection, but when I worked on this type of building I had the same predicament with the tiles. I ended up copying the tiles as the glossiness map (adjusting with a color correction map), so that the tiles were still glossy, but so that the reflections were broken up by the tile pattern. I hope that helps. Anyway it looks lovely. 

[gutterclub 2,729]

Looks great buddy, loving it!

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Thanks very much everyone

Jason - that's an interesting idea, I never thought of doing that before, I can imagine there's probably lots of cool uses for that trick. Thanks

Well, here's some night lights. It was an ordeal though, seems like 3DS Max 2017 isn't compatible with Bat4Max, I somehow managed to fudge the script for day cameras (don't ask me how.. it was pure fluke!), but I couldn't get night cameras to work at all. I ended up taking an old night scene and importing the model in, and that seems to work for the rendering at least. I still need to see if the export works.

I fear soon these things will stop being compatible so much that we can't work around them anymore. That will be a sad day.

Anyway, here they are:

[SimCoug 5,972]

I was having trouble getting the 2015 version to work with BAT4Max... I eventually gave up and started with the basic BAT.  In hind site it was probably a good thing, since it is giving me the opportunity to start with the basics.  But hopefully at some point I can jump on to 3dsMax and still get it to work.  
Fantastic modeling, BTW

[mattb325 28,880]

I'm glad you fluked the day rig, it will be a sad day when 3ds/bat4max no longer play nice.... all the additions look wonderful!

[IDS2 3,346]

I like the glow of the night scene. It makes it look very peaceful. The tower looks nice - good distribution of lit windows. Are they self illumination or do you have interior lighting set up?

[jwsteele 77]

He's back!!!  The undisputed king of BATs as far as I'm concerned.  I literally fell in love with Melbourne's architecture because of your work.  What's next?  Federation Square?  Docklands condos?  Crown casino?

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

There, that's uploaded now, finally

 

Let me know if any issues.

 

Thanks SimCoug & Matt. Luckily I got 2017 up and running normally with BAT4Max with a small tweak to the script and works normally now .

Thanks IDS2. Yep, just normal self illumination on the windows.

Thanks JWS.. too, too kind, but thanks! Melbourne BATs are actually on hold for a while...

[mattb325 28,880]

Great to see this released! That is great news re: 2017....is the tweak to the script something you can share with the community?

[edwardjeria 503]

IS BACK... Yeeeei good work

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

So, it's still alive, apparently. What a way to come back.

[Francis90b 748]

I might be late to the party, but hope there's still room in the pool?...the way you rendered it really makes me want to swim there (and the rest of the model is just as good :P).

[tigerbuilder 131]

Could you share with us what the "tweak" to the script was? This sounds like a rather important discovery you've made.

Cheers, tiger

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

I love your work.

[MillionSeven 45]

Your Work is SPECTACULAR!!

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Hello everyone,

You might recall this fictional building BAT from a few years ago... I never expected to release it but after taking on board some of the feedback, I have now:

• Fixed up the water
• Fixed the width of the floors
• Replaced all the trees and plants

... and is now up on the STEX. Still not perfect but I hope you like it

https://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/32185-rdq-venus-arcology/

Thanks for the nice comments since my last upload.

PS. (I see the STEX troll has made a reappearance on the Forums. Hopefully he has learned to play nice now).