AndisArt's BAT cookery

[Andrey km 304]

Take a look at the details of the front glass and also the sign. By the way, outstanding model!

[AndisArt 2,068]

Ok so this is a preliminary testing of bringing back some neon! (WIP)

[Krasner 1,062]

OwO great lightning ! The base part reminds me of an hotel near my home, by night.

[elavery 1,013]

What are you basing the nightlighting on? I have not seen many pictures of this building at night.

[AndisArt 2,068]

2 minutes ago, elavery said:

What are you basing the nightlighting on? I have not seen many pictures of this building at night.

my own gusto I didnt find any night references and I think a neon outline fits this building type well

[elavery 1,013]

This is about the only image I could find and this is just a conceptual drawing. I think I prefer what you have come up with.

[blade2k5 1,523]

Would look nice on a waterfront setting in any commercial district.  Looking forward to this one hitting a STEX near us.

[AndisArt 2,068]

Ok this is super WIP, so everything still being fleshed out and worked on.

[matias93 7,535]

Ohh, neon, it always makes buildings with special shapes to be 'rightly dressed' for the night, so this is definitely an improvement even from the real building!!

[AndisArt 2,068]

2 hours ago, matias93 said:

Ohh, neon, it always makes buildings with special shapes to be 'rightly dressed' for the night, so this is definitely an improvement even from the real building!!

hehe nice way to put it

update nightlights, WIP:

Maybe the back part is over the top with the mullions lit up.. haha. What do u think?

[Belfastsocrates 1,753]

I like it, the mullions are maybe a touch bright but I like it nevertheless.If you're going to amend perhaps a softer light on the mullions or bring in some of that purple hue seen on the outer rim

[AndisArt 2,068]

Full zoom 5 updates on the nightlights. Still tweaking the nightwindows on the flat side more. Otherwise nearing completion of night scene:

[Girafe 1,729]

I quite like the neons lights, they are really nice especially for this kind of building.

For the windows, I would be in favor to do interior ligthing, self illuminated ceiling or flooring, it gives more depth to the building but it's more complex to do as it requires to model and do partition of the interiors.

Anyway, really good job as usual

[Jasoncw 11,949]

I think the panel lines could use some tweaking. On the tower they look ok, although I would personally make them thinner and slightly darker. On the bottom part though they're definitely too thick.

It also seems like the roof patio pavers are strangely blue during the day (yes I'm still getting caught up with the day version ). idk if they're so reflective that they're reflecting the sky, or if the textures have a blue hue to them

The nitelites look really nice, and the curved shape of the tower is good for reflecting things. I agree with Girafe that modeling the interior (at least for the front and back, textures would work better for the smaller windows on the sides) would look better, but I do think they look quite nice as they are now.

Overall, it's not often this type of building gets BATed at all, let alone this good.

[AndisArt 2,068]

13 hours ago, Girafe said:

For the windows, I would be in favor to do interior ligthing, self illuminated ceiling or flooring

Thanks :-) Can you enlighten me how you use "self illuminated ceiling or flooring"? I've done interior lighting once, which was GT Tower and a mix of disaplcement maps to create geometry plus random maps layed over the geometry, light up by normal lights.

2 hours ago, Jasoncw said:

I think the panel lines could use some tweaking. On the tower they look ok, although I would personally make them thinner and slightly darker. On the bottom part though they're definitely too thick.

It also seems like the roof patio pavers are strangely blue during the day (yes I'm still getting caught up with the day version ). idk if they're so reflective that they're reflecting the sky, or if the textures have a blue hue to them

Thanks :-) I agree on the panel lines on the lower part. The upper would be less close to original if I make them darker.

I don't understand what you mean with blueish "roof patio pavers", can you explain?

About interior nightlights, I was contemplating it, but was waiting if someone was mentioning it or not. Challenge accepted

[AndisArt 2,068]

New nightwindows with modeled interior:

I'm still tweaking the colors, dispersion and brightness

[rsc204 21,866]

Well as before and after shots go, the difference between textured and modelled interiors is like night and day, err night?! I certainly prefer to model the interior where practical, but it can be a lot of extra work, especially on this scale. But it improves the model so dramatically I'm glad you've opted for this route.

[elavery 1,013]

Yes, the modeled interior really makes a huge difference. This is going to be BAT of the year I think.

[Sciurus 323]

Interesting interior..  I think it's better like this. Maybe a bit more brightness would be better, to see it perfectly. Otherwise, great work as always !

[Jasoncw 11,949]

On 2/26/2018 at 7:55 PM, AndisArt said:

I don't understand what you mean with blueish "roof patio pavers", can you explain?

Sorry I thought I replied but I think maybe I didn't press reply or something.

Anyway, the pavers that are on the roof of the base (where all the trees and stuff are). It seems like maybe the reflectivity of the paver material is too high. Unless the stone is meant to be really polished looking. 

[AndisArt 2,068]

On 3.3.2018 at 12:19 AM, Jasoncw said:

Sorry I thought I replied but I think maybe I didn't press reply or something.

Anyway, the pavers that are on the roof of the base (where all the trees and stuff are). It seems like maybe the reflectivity of the paver material is too high. Unless the stone is meant to be really polished looking. 

I see now what you mean, good eye, an oversight of mine. thanks!

 

So I did a color correction run down on the day view, adjusting to real life building plus making it fit well with SC4 coloring ingame. Also, while doing that I ended up adding more details around the base.

 

 

[blade2k5 1,523]

I'm salivating for this...  Can't wait to place this next to 53 West 53rd tower you last gave us.  The two will compliment each other well.

[T Wrecks 10,210]

Wow, that's some 1337 sauce, yummy!

Are you planning to leave that grey modeled ground there? Just wondering how the ground would interact with different sidewalk mods / base textures.

[elavery 1,013]

Unrelated question, what terrain mod is that?

[ESP15 571]

It's amazing the jobs you create. I can not wait to see another building in New York City. It would be wonderful to see you create Bank Of America, 4 Times Square or some other iconic buildings. Great job with this Dubai wonder!

[AndisArt 2,068]

6 hours ago, blade2k5 said:

I'm salivating for this...  Can't wait to place this next to 53 West 53rd tower you last gave us.  The two will compliment each other well.

Thanks  looking forward to see that 

4 hours ago, T Wrecks said:

Wow, that's some 1337 sauce, yummy!

Are you planning to leave that grey modeled ground there? Just wondering how the ground would interact with different sidewalk mods / base textures.

Haha, I actually had to look up 1337 Sauce  nice one 

Hm, yea that was the plan. Can you elaborate and maybe give an example of how this could be an issue? You mean if someone wants to lot the building with ground textures they prefer? 

30 minutes ago, elavery said:

Unrelated question, what terrain mod is that?

I will check for you once I'm home later 

29 minutes ago, ESP15 said:

It's amazing the jobs you create. I can not wait to see another building in New York City. It would be wonderful to see you create Bank Of America, 4 Times Square or some other iconic buildings. Great job with this Dubai wonder!

Thanx  hehe who knows maybe yes 

[Fox 1,444]

Hmm.. I seriously must have a 3D printed version of this to sit on my desk!!!

 

I absolutely love the details of the roof top gardens and plazas, so intricate and delicate.. astounding job.

[AndisArt 2,068]

12 hours ago, elavery said:

Unrelated question, what terrain mod is that?

This one

6 hours ago, Fox said:

Hmm.. I seriously must have a 3D printed version of this to sit on my desk!!!

 

I absolutely love the details of the roof top gardens and plazas, so intricate and delicate.. astounding job.

Thanks <3 That would be cool if it could be a 3D print model hehe

 

So I worked on the lot and this is the front now:

And this the back:

Hopefully I can finish the night scene tomorrow and render it overnight after.

[T Wrecks 10,210]

19 hours ago, AndisArt said:

Hm, yea that was the plan. Can you elaborate and maybe give an example of how this could be an issue? You mean if someone wants to lot the building with ground textures they prefer? 

Yes, exactly. If you look at the last picture (back side), you'll notice some weird shadow beginning from the third column from the left - a fundamental problem with BATted ground. You'll also notice how the planter props you put up right next to the building cannot cast a shadow on the BATted ground.

Now, these are really minor issues, although they are avoidable. You'll see how the textures match rather well, however: the grey of the base texture and the grey of the BATted ground are similar enough to help BAT and lot blend into one another. Now image the same scene for someone who uses the SMP sandstone sidewalk mod, or the Copacabana sidewalk. There will be quite a visible rupture, and BAT and lot will look somewhat disconnected.

There is not the perfect solution for all cases, and BATted ground does have its advantages, but it also causes the problems outlined above. You'll probably have to leave it around the front because of those embedded mosaic tiles and planters. Meh, I guess in this case it's hard to do without the BATted ground anyway.

[AndisArt 2,068]

@T Wrecks Ok yes the shadow bug is bad, but I was able to fix it for the most part. I tested this and what made the difference is to turn the building into a prop and the shadow bug is mostly gone  :-)  It's gone in the front and not much noticable anymore in the back:

 

On another note, since this will probably never get any notice otherwise: The flowers in the front bed are actually iris flowers, hehe. I couldn't resist, but it will remain an easter egg I guess since they are so small (although I rendered them out in HD). There are obviously no other flowers more suitable for Iris Bay Tower