Offline-Only Mod: "UniDirectional Networks (UDoN)" 1.9 / 1.7

@everyone sorry very long crazy week for me

 

1.8 has some new potential issues due to changes that were tried in the upgrade down grades.  If you downgrade to far you will create some new effects we didn't as a group see until afterwards.  1.9 is currently in the works along with we are trying to add a 5 and 6 lane version of udons for both zoneable and non zoneable freeways with elevations.

 

This would be a 5 and 6 lane avenue wide version vs a road size structure across

 

we feel with regional additions this will allow people to create more realistic freeways and variants with the new elevated regionals that are being added.

 

Since Regional behaviors are Wonki at best we are doing our best to make a version that continues with the feel of the original game without requiring N and M keys.  So our efforts are on creating 2 static heights for regional actions that would allow ground height 1 and height 2 with transitions possible to make some trumpts, clovers, turbines and other such structures in the region which should make life a little easier and more creative for everyone.

 

We are pushing our stuff well past what was intended by the original design of not only udons but the game and regional play making it more useful. 

 

Although I describe all regional play to be on BROKEN terrain, most efforts actually function better than original expected.

 

ORION is something I should have explained better.  DATA LAYER MAPS are not exactly broken but compressed.  If you were again to draw a huge square and plop in something that was to influence land value you would notice that the scale of where you place the park is reflected on the data map accordingly and as a result will impact that area that you place the information accordingly.  This does have side effects however reading the map is very possible to know where things are including resources.  So please keep that in mind.

 

XoXiDe

@everyone Bi Streets by max are being fixed but you must talk to him.. He used a substitution method in his initial version rather than making a new path type which would have been optimal.  The team him are working on resolving that issue.

 

Akar is ali's work and he is doing his best to keep up with changes and growing the teams size to handle these changes as quickly as possible.  Low Rest may be more difficult to continue to support without new menu code added to make them scrolling at the main icon level.  Ali and others are looking at options.

 

Our intention was never to work on as much or as quickly as we currently are as a group, however things have opened up as a result of our Initial offerings that we have gone in many new directions at once.  As a result sometimes feature creeps generate or create side effects and even problems with compatibility ... this is the reason I keep all my versions online and let you as users go back to older versions while we figure out the best way to handle something that encompasses all versions into the next 2.0 or inclusive version of the mod.

 

Many of the efforts of everyone OVERLAP and also are working together to figure out new ways to use the code and also blueprints of those efforts to create new ideas such as bi level roads which are hybrids of the udons in a non udon sense.

 

but like with our recently upgraded pedestrian paths that's a NEW path type not a recycling of an old or existing path.  I and others specifically do that to not cause problems or conflicts with others mods however something's are just flat out oversight during development of new mods since they offer new options and we like to get them out to you to test and play with to evolve into something new or better.

 

The whole point of making things public vs private was to increase the speed and also share the information quicker and faster with those involved.

 

This has worked much better than I or Oppie could have expected but it comes with the price of OShiznick we created a new problem without realizing it.  We are 25 member strong now.. and that's a lot more creativity and direction to go in.  But that also means without some Quality Assurance and checking we introduce problems.  As a result of this we have added teams 2 - 6 which encompass each level that maxis would do in its own testing to try and figure out problems or bugs so fix before we make major releases.

 

Elric, Sky and even Dizzy along with others like Yutho are going to be testing and streaming our beta's and alphas so we can watch for behaviors and debug faster but the process is not something that takes minutes more like hours or days to resolve sometimes.

 

So patience and realize we are looking at a lot of information and levels to try and not only fix the bugs we introduce but come up with new ideas to expand your creativity and use of that new territory introduced by Orion.

 

XoXiDe

Thanks for the good work xoxide and teams. I, for one, will wait for the update of this mod and other mods made by your teams. Keep up the good work man. :)

heya...  this may be a silly question, but does this file - 009_OFFLINE_DLC_UI_OBJECTS_SUGC_TEAM1_20140818_1_8_UDoN.package -replace any previous files or is it something new/additional?   The files I had from the previous version are:

 

OFFLINE-ONLY_UniDirectionalNetworks.package

OFFLINE-ONLY_UniDirectionalNetworksWithYieldSigns17_new_image.package

RegionalUDoN.package

 

Does that new file supersede any of those? I'm on a Mac so no mod manager.  Sorry for my confusion!

Keep only one version. Don't remove the old versions, move them somewhere so that you can revert to a previous version if you have trouble. Well, you don't even need to do that if you use Time Machine.

I can see the JPG's but not the descriptions. Any idea?

I can see the JPG's but not the descriptions. Any idea?

What is Time Mashine and where is it located ?

 

best regards

Time Machine is a feature on Mac OS X.

Time Machine is a feature on Mac OS X.

Ups! thank you

Keep only one version. Don't remove the old versions, move them somewhere so that you can revert to a previous version if you have trouble. Well, you don't even need to do that if you use Time Machine.

 

So, just to be clear, there should only be one UDoN package file?  (I'm not asking about versions so much, but which actual files should we be using for UDoN 1.8, and which do we no longer need).

 

Here is what we see on the download screen for the current UDoN version:

 

 

Do we use all of these?  Or does the 1.8 package at the top supersede the other two OFFLINE-ONLY packages in the middle?  Sorry... still a bit confused :P

 

Keep only one version. Don't remove the old versions, move them somewhere so that you can revert to a previous version if you have trouble. Well, you don't even need to do that if you use Time Machine.

 

So, just to be clear, there should only be one UDoN package file?  (I'm not asking about versions so much, but which actual files should we be using for UDoN 1.8, and which do we no longer need).

 

Here is what we see on the download screen for the current UDoN version:

 

 

Do we use all of these?  Or does the 1.8 package at the top supersede the other two OFFLINE-ONLY packages in the middle?  Sorry... still a bit confused :P

 

Same question I asked a wile ago hehe in PM, its the top one you use, The others are for "archive" :)

when I select file to download on the top of list, after adfly waiting link moves me to forum not to download -.-

when I select file to download on the top of list, after adfly waiting link moves me to forum not to download -.-

 

You need to be logged in to Simtropolis in order to download mods.

 

 

Keep only one version. Don't remove the old versions, move them somewhere so that you can revert to a previous version if you have trouble. Well, you don't even need to do that if you use Time Machine.

 

So, just to be clear, there should only be one UDoN package file?  (I'm not asking about versions so much, but which actual files should we be using for UDoN 1.8, and which do we no longer need).

 

Here is what we see on the download screen for the current UDoN version:

 

 

Do we use all of these?  Or does the 1.8 package at the top supersede the other two OFFLINE-ONLY packages in the middle?  Sorry... still a bit confused :P

 

Same question I asked a wile ago hehe in PM, its the top one you use, The others are for "archive" :)

 

 

Thanks - goodness that's confusing!  I thought old ones would be kept under archived versions on the main page rather than still on the current download page.

Can someone please tell me where to install all those files??

HAHAHA TOLD YOU JEFF ITS CONFUSING! ;) /LÖVE

 

tha0ther1 use the top one, only that one =) note that one ramp maybe broken...

 

@smalljude xoxide has toooo much todo no free time to cleanup 4now, but now there are more then 1 post tell u all what file to use so... :)

This mod is great.  Thanks for all of the hard work.  I have been having alot of fun experimenting with different configurations, but i am not sure how to raise/lower the elevated segments.  Is this possible?  Thanks in advance!

This mod is great.  Thanks for all of the hard work.  I have been having alot of fun experimenting with different configurations, but i am not sure how to raise/lower the elevated segments.  Is this possible?  Thanks in advance!

Yes, N lowers and M raises while holding the mouse button; Remember,it always lowers and raises the MIDDLE of the segment you have drawn, not the ends (which is a true PAIN half the time). In order to get EVEN gradients, you have to do a workaround. You draw multiple roads to create one road, deleting the end piece each time and starting from the correctly-leveled/stepped piece to progress where you are going. Then, when low enough or high enough, draw from the connecting road to the road you're creating for the very small, final pieces; always draw FROM where you are going on the final segments.

 

You can click on straight, curve, serpentine, box, and circle buttons when drawing roads to draw those patterns, as you know, but, in order to get a perfect curve, "straight line", OR circle, HOLD SHIFT before letting go of the mouse button. The serpentine is sometimes great when going up or down gradients, as you can hold SHIFT to draw a straight line in one direction (or tap/cycle for freeform) and then cycle/rehold shift to freeform or make a straight line in another direction, all connected. When serpentine works right (with mods)  you can raise the entire segment together after you have drawn the same road in multiple directions INSTEAD of having to create a segment at a time. If not using shift with serpentine, you can BACK UP if you start going a direction you don't want to go, kind of like using an eraser and starting from a previous point. With both curve and serpentine, they will curve the exact arch you draw your mouse, as if you was using your mouse to draw on your mouse pad. I have a precise trackball that is so awesome to use for this; no matter what, don't release the mouse until you are satisfied with the pattern OR are confident you can delete parts of the segment and start from that point.

 

In order to use partial pieces of tunnels and bridges, you need a mod called Bridge & Tunnel Mod V1.2, It's a mod that goes along with UDoN and allows you to delete sections of bridges and tunnels where you would usually be forced to delete the entire segment. I hated when I had drawn the perfect bridge and accidentally deleted an end piece that I couldn't draw from or connect to; this mod did the trick!

 

Also, in the original posting of this reply, I realize now that I may not have addressed your actual question yesterday. To get a freeway from elevated to ground, you use the "freeway transition". You can also "cheat' and use a one way street to go from elevated to ground, or vice versa. To go from 6 steps up (6 presses of "M" after you dragged the first segment of the elevated freeway) to 4 clicks up, drag the 4-stepped freeway with enough space between its starting piece and the end piece of the 6 to put a transition in between; then, connect them. Like I said above, always draw the segments you're stepping up or down to and then connect FROM them to where you are.

 

Keep in mind that FOUR (4) steps above a road is the minimum height required to cross over it. Since freeways can't be zoned, you want to use as little of them as possible at ground level AND draw them above other roads.

 

This mod is great.  Thanks for all of the hard work.  I have been having alot of fun experimenting with different configurations, but i am not sure how to raise/lower the elevated segments.  Is this possible?  Thanks in advance!

Yes, N lowers and M raises while holding the mouse button; Remember,it always lowers and raises the MIDDLE of the segment you have drawn, not the ends (which is a true PAIN half the time). In order to get EVEN gradients, you have to do a workaround. You draw multiple roads to create one road, deleting the end piece each time and starting from the correctly-leveled/stepped piece to progress where you are going. Then, when low enough or high enough, draw from the connecting road to the road you're creating for the very small, final pieces; always draw FROM where you are going on the final segments.

 

You can click on straight, curve, serpentine, box, and circle buttons when drawing roads to draw those patterns, as you know, but, in order to get a perfect curve, "straight line", OR circle, HOLD SHIFT before letting go of the mouse button. The serpentine is sometimes great when going up or down gradients, as you can hold SHIFT to draw a straight line in one direction (or tap/cycle for freeform) and then cycle/rehold shift to freeform or make a straight line in another direction, all connected. When serpentine works right (with mods)  you can raise the entire segment together after you have drawn the same road in multiple directions INSTEAD of having to create a segment at a time. If not using shift with serpentine, you can BACK UP if you start going a direction you don't want to go, kind of like using an eraser and starting from a previous point. With both curve and serpentine, they will curve the exact arch you draw your mouse, as if you was using your mouse to draw on your mouse pad. I have a precise trackball that is so awesome to use for this; no matter what, don't release the mouse until you are satisfied with the pattern OR are confident you can delete parts of the segment and start from that point.

 

In order to use partial pieces of tunnels and bridges, you need a mod called Bridge & Tunnel Mod V1.2, It's a mod that goes along with UDoN and allows you to delete sections of bridges and tunnels where you would usually be forced to delete the entire segment. I hated when I had drawn the perfect bridge and accidentally deleted an end piece that I couldn't draw from or connect to; this mod did the trick!

 

Also, in the original posting of this reply, I realize now that I may not have addressed your actual question yesterday. To get a freeway from elevated to ground, you use the "freeway transition". You can also "cheat' and use a one way street to go from elevated to ground, or vice versa. To go from 6 steps up (6 presses of "M" after you dragged the first segment of the elevated freeway) to 4 clicks up, drag the 4-stepped freeway with enough space between its starting piece and the end piece of the 6 to put a transition in between; then, connect them. Like I said above, always draw the segments you're stepping up or down to and then connect FROM them to where you are.

 

Keep in mind that FOUR (4) steps above a road is the minimum height required to cross over it. Since freeways can't be zoned, you want to use as little of them as possible at ground level AND draw them above other roads.

 

Thanks for the tips!  

 is there some mod that can not work together with this mod because it seems mine is not work properly the regionals are working fine but missing  an icon on the menu with the regular udon option.

 i have installed akar project + OFFLINE-ONLY_UniDirectionalNetworks , OFFLINE-ONLY_UniDirectionalNetworksWithYieldSigns17_new_image , 009_OFFLINE_DLC_UI_OBJECTS_SUGC_TEAM1_20140818_1_8_UDoN and the RegionalUDoNfor the roads .

the only thing i now for sure is that akar project this , Not compatible with boc , udon-addon and  bridge and tunnel mod so looked for them mayby it was inthere delleted them if they where but still not working properly.i have a original simcity limeted edition + COT limeted edition + DLC packes my version of Simcity ( looked at the properties of the file "simcity.exe") 10.2 i have no idea what i`m doing wrong here or is it that the patch i need to downgrade to 10.1 like everybody said "u NEED 10.1 to get it to work" now i`don`t think this one is the problem because before that i had the same isseu.

Now i found this 000 Akar2.0.1.2.1.0.5+Bridge&Tunnel tryed it but it made no diffrents still udon regual roads did not work.

 

Can some body help me with this.

 is there some mod that can not work together with this mod because it seems mine is not work properly the regionals are working fine but missing  an icon on the menu with the regular udon option.

 i have installed akar project + OFFLINE-ONLY_UniDirectionalNetworks , OFFLINE-ONLY_UniDirectionalNetworksWithYieldSigns17_new_image , 009_OFFLINE_DLC_UI_OBJECTS_SUGC_TEAM1_20140818_1_8_UDoN and the RegionalUDoNfor the roads .

the only thing i now for sure is that akar project this , Not compatible with boc , udon-addon and  bridge and tunnel mod so looked for them mayby it was inthere delleted them if they where but still not working properly.i have a original simcity limeted edition + COT limeted edition + DLC packes my version of Simcity ( looked at the properties of the file "simcity.exe") 10.2 i have no idea what i`m doing wrong here or is it that the patch i need to downgrade to 10.1 like everybody said "u NEED 10.1 to get it to work" now i`don`t think this one is the problem because before that i had the same isseu.

Now i found this 000 Akar2.0.1.2.1.0.5+Bridge&Tunnel tryed it but it made no diffrents still udon regual roads did not work.

 

Can some body help me with this.

 

remove:

• OFFLINE-ONLY_UniDirectionalNetworks
• OFFLINE-ONLY_UniDirectionalNetworksWithYieldSigns17_new_image

Darkdc...Some solutions for you. 

 

1. use only 009_OFFLINE_DLC_UI_OBJECTS_SUGC_TEAM1_20140818_1_8_UDoN - delete OFFLINE-ONLY_UniDirectionalNetworks , OFFLINE-ONLY_UniDirectionalNetworksWithYieldSigns17 and RegionalUDoN

 

2. you need update 10.1 and above for udon to work

 

3. Akar2.0.1.2.1.0.5+Bridge&Tunnel - is NOT compatible with AKAR as it changes the UI, i have both AKAR and this mod but i change load order of these mods when i want 2m, 20m and 40m roads bridges and tunnels, they cannot coexist, one will load before the other depending on the load order in your SimCityData Folder 

 

Hope that helps

I have NO Problem with akar,  009_OFFLINE_DLC_UI_OBJECTS_SUGC_TEAM1_20140818_1_8_UDoN, and the Bridge & Tunnel piece mod I linked. Yayie hit the nail on the head with my setup. Of course I have 20 other mods that have nothing to do with UDON or roads or etc but they dont' conflict or help akar/udon's operation.

 

The main thing, along with akar, is to have akar's roads mod (the scripts for that mod installed in SimCItyUserData\Packages) installed with akar itself. YOu CAN use the  ONLINE udon (where it went from UDoN Download page, IDK) WITH akar but it's pointless as akar is only offline; you just keep Akar's Road scripts where said but DON"T put the actual Roads Mod in SimCItyData. I have SimCity 2013 Mods Switch btw, which EVERYONE should have if they install more than 1 mod or ANY offline-only mods like akar.

Thanks guys worked like a charme most gratefull

1) one thing I noticed was I downloaded the most recent version of this (009_OFFLINE_DLC_UI_OBJECTS_SUGC_TEAM1_20140818_1_8_UDoN) - and I was previously using 0SP_OFFLINE-ONLY_UniDirectionalNetworksWithYieldSigns17

 

the new one doesnt allow me to upgrade 'oneway streets' to 'oneway streets without traffic lights' - so Ive gone back to the old one. because removing traffic lights is really useful for me.

 

2) transitioning between avenues (the best example being the city entrances) to freeways or oneway streets is really ugly. would it be possible to make some kind of transition piece with avenue on one side - and then 2 stubs for oneway on the other ? the junctions that automatically get drawn look really weird and ugly.

 

something along the lines of this, I guess - 

 

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7728/ave6transitions.png

 

unless theres some secret trick to make smooth transitions from avenues to two directions of oneway that Im not aware of ?