modern NYBT?

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Its a bit early for an update, but I haven't posted anything in a little while, so here's the latest:

 

[Huston 5,799]

No doubt that this is a beautiful model. Though, I'd hate to nitpick, but I can't really dig the head. Seems a bit overscaled and...different. It might just be the size of the head though, but if you made it smaller, it'd look a lot more proportionate.

 

Other than that, this really is going to be the icing on the STEX's cake.

[mrsmartman 200]

What a marvelous project! The above comment is well echoed here.

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Just remembered it already existed. I could hardly point out that it was supposed to be Mr. Liberty since it's so poorly done. But then I saw the SC4 version and thought "oh, that's what he tries to do"...

[SimCoug 5,973]

Incredible!  

[Sabretooth78 808]

I can't believe you pulled that much off in less than 3 weeks.  I feel like that would take me at least 3 months!

 

I do have to agree, however, that something isn't right with the face.  I don't have a picture in front of me for comparison, but it looks too wide or something.  I'm sure it'll take you maybe all of 5 minutes to fix it and blow us all away. 

[SimCoug 5,973]

It's hard to tell at that angle if the face needs too much changing... It's not an angle that we normally see, plus with shadows and such it could look completely different.  Here's the closest match I could find with a quick search.  

 

Before you go changing the face around too much, it would probably be best to see what she looks like in the SC4 perspective.  

(from Bing)

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Wonderful work there.

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Hi everyone,

 

Thanks for those comments, I should have put this in my post, but I wouldn't get too caught up in accuracy and likeness, as SimCoug has pointed out, this is ultimately going to be a BAT, seen at BAT scale and BAT viewing angle.

 

As with all BATs, there's going to need to be exaggeration and alteration of some features to compensate for loss of resolution and camera distortion. Its never going to be something you can put next to a photo and not spot differences.

 

The purpose of showing the perspective angle above is to see the progression with the arms and robes, but even now at SC4 camera angle she looks squat and the robes look more like rags... but hopefully when she's done she's going to be something that is recognisable as a reasonable facsimile of the real thing. At very minimum, I hope its just at little bit better than the one we have today

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Actually, my post was irony. But one serious question: Why don't you post this stuff in your BAT thread?

[Vlasky 1,803]

OK Red, but with all that said, I am sure you still tend to give her as much of her real likeness and scale that she possesses in the RL.

The most noticeable issue that I see is unmatched proportions between elements. And surely it would be nice to see sc4 perspective render.

 

Here are some useful links I have found with quick googling:

 

East Elevation:

 

 

and HUMONGOUS .png file here:  

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/East_Pedestal_Elevation_-_Statue_of_Liberty%2C_Liberty_Island%2C_Manhattan%2C_New_York%2C_New_York_County%2C_NY_HAER_NY%2C31-NEYO%2C89-_%28sheet_19_of_36%29.png

 

All 4 elevations

 

 

and HUMONGOUS .png here:

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/North_Elevation%2C_East_Elevation%2C_South_Elevation%2C_West_Elevation_-_Statue_of_Liberty%2C_Liberty_Island%2C_Manhattan%2C_New_York%2C_New_York_County%2C_NY_HAER_NY%2C31-NEYO%2C89-_%28sheet_15_of_36%29.png

 

 

Surprisingly all of these plans and many more can be found on Wikimedia Commons (scroll to the bottom of the page):

 

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:0P-Pedestal_Floor_Plan_-_Statue_of_Liberty,_Liberty_Island,_Manhattan,_New_York,_New_York_County,_NY_HAER_NY,31-NEYO,89-_(sheet_4_of_36).png

 

And very very useful measurements data here:

 

 

 

Number of windows in the crown: 25
Number of spikes in the crown: Seven rays of the diadem
        (7 oceans of the World)
Hand with which Statue holds tablet: Left
Inscription on tablet: "July 4, 1776" (in Roman numerals)
Day of America's Independence from Britain: July 4, 1776

Height from base to torch (Bartholdi's design): 151' 1" (46.50m)
Height from base to torch (1984 Survey): 152' 2" (46.84m)
Foundation of pedestal to torch (Bartholdi's design): 305' 1" (92.99m)
Foundation of pedestal to torch (1984 Survey): 306' 8" (93.47m)
Heel to top of head: 111' 1" (33.86m)
Length of hand: 16' 5" (5.00m)

Index finger: 8' 0" (2.44m)
Circumference at second joint: 3' 6" (1.07m)
Size of fingernail: 13"x10" (33x25.4cm)
Weight of fingernail: About 3.5 pounds. (1.5 kg)
Head from chin to cranium: 17' 3" (5.26m)
Head thickness from ear to ear: 10' 0" (3.05m)
Distance across the eye: 2' 6" ( .76m)

Length of nose: 4' 6" ( l.48m)
Right arm length: 42' 0" (12.80m)
Right arm greatest thickness: 12' 0" (3.66m)
Thickness of waist: 35' 0" (10.67m)
Width of mouth: 3' 0" (.91m)

Tablet, length: 23' 7" (7.19m)
Tablet, width: 13' 7" (4.14m)
Tablet, thickness: 2' 0" (.61m)
Height of granite pedestal: 89' 0" (27.13m)
Height of foundation: 65' 0" (19.81m)

[Seraf 1,238]

Vlasky beat me to post the plans I think while your work is good you should try and replicate the look that you're given on plans, that way you stay very true to real thing and let's not kid ourselves - your work will be much faster. Don't get me wrong, I admire your work and your willingness to sculpt the Liberty by yourself

[SimCoug 5,973]

At very minimum, I hope its just at little bit better than the one we have today

Well, from that last perspective render I would say you have already left the old maxis version in the dust.

[jd211 0]

Looks amazing!

[Anonymous01 2]

well... This thread certainly went for a twist. Lol...

[Hotwheeler 409]

Wow, just wow.

Words can't describe howt his project amazes me.All those sweet details, the textures and al the work that was put into thi project...wow!!!

Thanks for making this possible.

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Hi everyone, sorry for long delay between posts. I realised from my last update this isn't the sort of BAT you can show progress on so I thought I'd wait until I'm done then show you it finished.. so here it is..

 

I now welcome your constructive feedback

 

My 2015 version of...

 

Statue of Liberty

 

 

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Honestly, all those tils and stuff on the ground looks too clean and assorted :/

 

Modelling is exquisite

[Harry's Place 918]

just.....amazing

[T Wrecks 10,209]

 Constructive feedback? I think I'm going to need my pills first. This is... wow. I give up.

[Bastet69008 1,102]

This is so 'Murica! Great job!

[tonyr 926]

Oh my goodness!

[Seraf 1,238]

Yes, now it looks grand

 

My only tiny little bit of criticism would be to the pedestal (I know I'm being a pain in...  You don't even need to adress it, I just feel obliged somehow to point it out because I studied it at some point ) The main entrance: it looks squished somehow... You also ommited the big "circles" on each side of it. The area below the four pillars: there is too much space above the sunken rectangle, look at my model for reference. That would be it, the rest is really not important, I doubt anybody will notice differences so there's no point is sweating over them. Again, you did wonderful job, the Statue and pedestal look beautiful. And the nightlights are of course brilliantly done.

 

I just need to ask, would you mind doing older version?

[SimCoug 5,973]

That is so awesome!

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Thanks everyone

 

Seraf.. thanks for those observations. No, its not painful at all... no point doing all that work on the statue and then not adding circles to the sides of the doors! Besides, there's a few more things I picked up on the base that needed fixing as well.

 

Looking at the door, why it looked squashed  - It seems at some point I moved something around and sunk the inner pedestal into the terrace, but also moved it off-centre. I've fixed that up now.

I've increased the height of the parapet on the upper terrace. It was very short for some reason.

I also detected from Vlasky's images there's an entrance door at the North-West side of the star-base. Looking then at Bing, I saw there are three doors on the side of the staircase on the first terrace. I've added all these in now.

I haven't added those ugly gantry stairs on. I think this will detract from the overall aesthetic.

 

Here's the updated base looking at the North-West side.

 

Seraf, not sure what you mean by 'older version'? I had always thought about making a version in the original copper when she was first built, but I don't think you meant that old? If it requires substantial modeling changes, unlikely, but let me know anyway

 

Anyway.. here's the shiny copper (HD) version, how she would have looked back in 1886

 

 

Anybody have any interest in a version like this?

[SharkSark 397]

Oh my god * Jaw Drops*  

[SimCoug 5,973]

Anybody have any interest in a version like this?

 

 

*raises hand*  ooh, me... me, me! ... ooh oh... me!

[Hotwheeler 409]

Wow,just incredible!Lady Liberty is very well done,the textures are perfect.Maybe the floortiling looks a little itzy bit too clean,but that`s just complaining about first world problems.Say,after looking at the statue in google,it seems that there is a hole and a staircase inside one of the twin triangles.Not sure if this staircase was always there or it is temporary for restauration reasons.

 

Also wow for the shiny statue.Must have been an interesting sight with this shiny giant statue.

[Seraf 1,238]

It looks beautiful Thank you for adding those small fixes

 

That was exactly what I meant While the two rectangular terraces weren't there around 1900 (I don't really remember when they were added them [before there was a soil heap in the centre of the star-shaped terrace and wide steps leading to the entrance]) I don't really mind them. See the photo: 

 

 

 

All I wanted was a copper version This one you made is nice but I think is a little too golden... I think it was rather something like that:

 

 

 

 

... I still can't believe we will have a proper Statue of Liberty finally...

[MushyMushy 3,618]

Having the old version too is going to be great!

 

I have one question though (maybe it's already been answered)... is the lot going to be overhanging?