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[Simmer2 23,831]

Sorry Matt I'm fresh out of cookies...

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18 minutes ago, mattb325 said:

this windmill is in Wamego, Kansas

The term "Dutch windmill" also says something about the design and not about where the mill stands. Most of them are in Germany, by the way. And in Kansas too, as I have learned now

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The term "Dutch windmill" is a German term. The Dutch call this design "bovenkruier". That is top-slewing.

 

[nycsc4 5,250]

So...if you guys are cool with it, I'm going to move us away from the pedantry of windmills and back into SimCity.

Here is an updated view of Vancouver.  Still lots to fill in.

Thanks!

[JulianMIA 1,610]

6 hours ago, Simmer2 said:

No, its whatever you want it to be. (I understand you more than you think. Don't feel too bad)

I'm sure you have seen a few, and just like all of your models, a lot of adaptations are required to make it fit in an SC4 environment. We can go on a merry go round all day long and it will not accomplish anything.

Just in case...

Simmer2

Was just going to comment on the contrast of a view of one windmill in an idyllic setting v. the scene of nearly identical units all lined up - you immediately start to see the rise of the industrial age coming.  It's a powerful image... 

[JulianMIA 1,610]

I just started finishing off the first of what I think of as these little peek-a-boo rail portals, I think they are kind of funny.

Since I really build only in really urban environments I use a lot of tunnels and although I do use the railway-subway conversion method to do some curving of the rail lines underground I try to keep them to a minimum.  In this example you cannot really see the portal that comes out of the underground turn/curve so I can convert back to real rail tunnels for the many, many square jump underground to the edge of the city where it comes out again in order to connect regional neighbors.

The two meet and face each other in a space of three squares.  These tracks come off the main east/west rail access corridor and head south to one of the other of the three main city stations.  In the end its just a big hole in the middle of town that you have to do something with and a tourist to my cities would not really see what the purpose is.  Not finished with these little lots yet, just a first stab but it is shaping up to be a great place to install two bus stations that handle cross-town routes.

 

Getting the tracks turned out of the main corridor to this little conversion portal gave me a chance to use the diagonal tunnel by @Takingyouthere.

The funny part is that I used the rail/subway conversion technique here to turn the rails underground and avoid having to tear down an expressway interchange that was in the way - and then soon after it was finished ended up tearing the interchange down anyway 

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Managed to render it in full HD, 12 hours and 36 minutes later, preliminary look in game of SM2 Loblaws
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[thecitiescenter 3,059]

54 minutes ago, Simmer2 said:

Managed to render it in full HD, 12 hours and 36 minutes later, preliminary look in game of SM2 Loblaws
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Wow, this looks great!  Didn't know you were working on this.  I just released my Real Canadian Superstore and was planning on doing  a Loblaws as part of my Canadian retail series... but I'm pretty sure my feeble BAT skills can't come up with anything remotely close to this.  

Look forward to downloading it! (and not having to build one myself  !  )

 

[pclark06 12,072]

I need to work on a sign and some other detail stuff now.

@Simmer2 

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9 hours ago, portlandexpos04 said:

 

Wow, this looks great!  Didn't know you were working on this.  I just released my Real Canadian Superstore and was planning on doing  a Loblaws as part of my Canadian retail series... but I'm pretty sure my feeble BAT skills can't come up with anything remotely close to this.  

Look forward to downloading it! (and not having to build one myself  !  )

 

Don't sell yourself short. It just take time and determination and you can accomplish anything (within Gmax anyways) I'm hoping to get 3dMax soon, I heard it makes life easier....

Regarding Canadian retailers, I'm also working on yet another supermarket chain. I will show you soon.

@pclark06 LOL yea I heard that one before. Apparently there is a Robert Loblaws. Now say Bob Loblaws 3 times as fast as you can

Simmer2

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I'm trying to make some rice fields in a mediterranean-like setting. As far as I know, there are a few areas in the Mediterranean where rice is bring grown.

[RRetail 7,912]

I feel like I'm going to be teasing you a lot with this.

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10 minutes ago, RRetail said:

I feel like I'm going to be teasing you a lot with this.

I want so bad! Lol 

[JulianMIA 1,610]

While testing something with a GLR tunnel portal I made I had an inspiration -

I had laid a couple of linear park lots that I never ended using alongside to get clearer visibility versus the gray background terrain and I realized that wouldn't it be nice if a new cross-town subway I was contemplating was instead a light rail line that, despite going through very dense urban areas, had a single tile of lush green park laid along each side of the track.

You ride through the city because its where you need to be yet are encompassed, just for the few moments you are on the train, in a minor paradise of plants and trees and bumble bees...

You step from the train to a station integrated into the park and have your last fleeting seconds of calm before the concrete jungle is upon you.

Just an idea.  But I'm gonna work on it.

 

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You can now grab SM2 Loblaws here

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[Silur 3,308]

I finished the job with Pegasus scows for the import of goods.

01-01.

Now the caravan is heading from Gloria to Santana Island.

01-02.

Safe travels.

Thank you

[Silur 3,308]

I'm concerned... Can I use other people's models with my repainting ONLY IN MY JOURNAL.

I will never place this on STEX.

For example - this is PEG's scow with capacities created by SM2:

 

Is that against the rules of Simtropolis or not ???

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2 minutes ago, Silur said:

I'm concerned... Can I use other people's models with my repainting ONLY IN MY JOURNAL.

I will never place this on STEX.

For example - this is PEG's scow with capacities created by SM2:

Is that against the rules of Simtropolis or not ???

I see no issues.

Carry on

Simmer2

[Silur 3,308]

Thank You Simmer2 for the instant reaction!

The sad news on. My people don't want to build a railroad without your wares!!!

They are waiting for Your lovely rusty rails and much more for the old railway.

Good Luck To You! And Thank You!

[T Wrecks 10,210]

2 hours ago, Silur said:

I'm concerned... Can I use other people's models with my repainting ONLY IN MY JOURNAL.

I will never place this on STEX.

For example - this is PEG's scow with capacities created by SM2:

Is that against the rules of Simtropolis or not ???

You don't need to worry at all - in fact, you could easily upload it on the STEX as long as you do not include PEG's scows or Simmer2's cargo in your file, but instead link to them as a dependency*. Showing pictures is absolutely unproblematic anyway.

I think you had a marvelous idea there, and for my part, I'd welcome seeing it uploaded on the STEX!

To reduce your worries even more, you are known on this site as a very creative and valuable member, and you have been here for a long time. Even if you did upload something that does not quite conform to the rules, we would know it's an honest mistake, and a STEX moderator or admin would inform you that you'll have to change something, give you enough time to do so, and then unlock the file again - no warning points, no bans, no problem.

Only if you know perfectly well that something is wrong, have been told not to do it again and end up doing it nonetheless you'll get yourself in trouble.

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*If you ask the creator(s) - such as Simmer2 in this case - if you may include the file and they say "Yes, sure", you can even include it without problems.

[mattb325 28,891]

I probably should balance my previous silly post with a proper, sc4 related one.... 

 

Lot size 18x18 and only 3 very common dependencies (SG props/CP Vol2 and SHK Parking Textures)

Available here: https://www.sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=3738

 

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9 minutes ago, mattb325 said:

I probably should balance my previous silly post with a proper, sc4 related one.... 

 

Lot size 18x18 and only 3 very common dependencies (SG props/CP Vol2 and SHK Parking Textures)

Available here: https://www.sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=3738

 

I'm totally on IKEA and that could be right around the corner with me....

[Silur 3,308]

Thanks T Wrecks...

I don't know how WZ looks at it.   

Nice time to us  ...

[T Wrecks 10,210]

1 hour ago, mattb325 said:

I probably should balance my previous silly post with a proper, sc4 related one.... 

Holy mother of Allen keys, now that is gorgeous! Makes me wanna get some köttbullar and go buy a nice DESKLÖMP for my home. And tea candles. Lots of tea candles.

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1 hour ago, Silur said:

I don't know how WZ looks at it

If you are asked as an author and give his OK, there are no problems.
It only becomes problematic if you change something of others without being asked.

Simmer2 has z.b. made one of my factory buildings an excellent station. He asked and gave full credit, so no problem. And the world of Sim's has a great station.

In this sense, keep it up.

WZ

[Tyberius06 12,267]

1 hour ago, WolfZe said:

It only becomes problematic if you change something of others without being asked.

I don't really understand this. This sentence gives me the feeling that you missunderstand something about custom content creaton, more precisely LOTting and permission asking. It gave me the same feeling, when I shared this picture in the comment section of your (since then deleted/hidden  ) Dam Power Plant.

I said in that post that on the right side is your original version, the middle and left side versions are my versions, while you'd stated there, that I was wrong because all of them is your version "in every time"... (more or less with these exact words, but I can not qoute it, since the page is gone now)...
Which is actually wrong.
On the right side is your original LOT with your original model, what you uploaded (then deleted), but the other two were/are my lots, with custom modding, pathing, I even modified the s3d files to lower the model on Z-axis closer to the ground (which I can do according to the comminity policies, even I can share/upload the modified s3d files in the case IF I'm using a modified copy of these s3d files and give them a new instance IID, which usually means to change the 5th digit in the instance IID, without the necessity of asking any permissions, since your original model would be intact and still would be a mandatory dependency) with model tweaker, I made a prop desc from this modified s3d.dat file, so these modifications are all of my work. On the middle and the left LOT only the original model was your work as a dependency, but the those are my versions. If you haven't deleted your original upload, I could've easily uploaded my relotted version to the exchanges, and actually I wouldn't have needed to ask your permission to upload my version of that Dam, because it wouldn't have included the original model or LOT, what you made.

And why I'm writing this, because all the LOTting community is using others props and models AS a DEPENDENCY, without asking permission to share those new LOTs, since these new LOTs don't contain the original models/textures etc... And I think there is a little missunderstanding on your end in this matter. But I might be wrong, and you are aware of these things and policies, but your quoted sentence above (and what you left in the comment section of the Dam) concerns me a little bit, that's why I wanted to clarify things here.

So for example I can easily repurpose any of your props and models, factories anything, and make new lots, and upload them to the community in my vision, and I don't need to ask permission to do that. For sure, I can give credit for the original models, but since my uploads wouldn't contain them, I don't need to ask permission to upload my lots...

Back to @Silur's concern, @Simmer2 and @T Wrecks are right. Silur doesn't need to ask permission to use those props or models together, if he wants he can upload his new lots to the exchanges, and he doesn't need to ask any permissions to upload his LOTs, but he can't include the original model files with his upload.

- Tyberius

[JulianMIA 1,610]

Just an update on the little peek-a-boo tunnel portals:

The original undressed what-am-I-doing-here faceoff...

Is now looking a perfect part of the scene in some new clothes and perfectly content down in its little hole.

Although I do question the amount of work I seem to put into making one hole look good.  But worth it I think - I like it when the details come together so nicely and I also think that HD has really brought a sense of satisfaction to the game that was certainly not there in the beginning.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Tyberius06 said:

I said in that post that on the right side is your original version, the middle and left side versions are my versions, while you'd stated there, that I was wrong because all of them is your version "in every time"... (more or less with these exact words, but I can not qoute it, since the page is gone now)... which is actually wrong. On the right side is your original LOT with your original model, what you uploaded (then deleted), but the other two were/are my lots, with custom modding, pathing, I even modified the s3d files to lower the model on Z-axis closer to the ground (which I can do according to the comminity policies, even I can share/upload the modified s3d files in the case IF I'm using a modified copy of these s3d files and give them a new instance IID, which usually means to change the 5th digit in the instance IID, without the necessity of asking any permissions, since your original model would be intact and still would be a mandatory dependency) with model tweaker, I made a prop desc from this modified s3d.dat file, so these modifications are all of my work. On the middle and the left LOT only the original model was your work as a dependency, but the those are my versions. If you haven't deleted your original upload, I could've easily uploaded my relotted version to the exchanges, and actually I wouldn't have needed to ask your permission to upload my version of that Dam, because it wouldn't have included the original model or LOT, what you made.

And why I'm writing this, because all the LOTting community is using others props and models AS a DEPENDENCY, without asking permission to share those new LOTs, since these new LOTs don't contain the original models/textures etc... And I think there is a little missunderstanding on your end in this matter. But I might be wrong, and you are aware of these things and policies, but your quoted sentence above (and what you left in the comment section of the Dam) concerns me a little bit, that's why I wanted to clarify things here.

A nice design of the copyright.
I take something from others, change something and it's mine.
I know exactly who is wrong.
In the field of my books and especially in the field of my music, I have managed several copyright processes.
With your interpretation of the copyrights Muttis house belongs very quickly to the plaintiff.....

 

And if you keep going on my cookie and continue claiming that this is your model, just because you've changed details unsolicited, you'll get mail from my lawyers tomorrow with a warning ... period.

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7 minutes ago, WolfZe said:

A nice design of the copyright.
I take something from others, change something and it's mine.
I know exactly who is wrong.
In the field of my books and especially in the field of my music, I have managed several copyright processes.
With your interpretation of the copyrights Muttis house belongs very quickly to the plaintiff.....

Sorry, but now you clearly missunderstand something. 
This is what lotting all about. This is what the community has been doing for a very long time (15 years), started with the original Maxis models. The credit for the model is yours, but when I upload a lot, I don't upload the model file with it. That's why it has to be linked as a dependency. But doing this doesn't require any permission asking. 
So the new lot, what I make from scretch is mine, even if I repurpose your building model. 

And it's not my interpretation, it's the rule of the SC4 community. You can ask any admin, or moderator on any of the community sites... 

[mattb325 28,891]

With regard to the post(s) on the previous page re permissions, etc. I think the conversation has become somewhat convoluted and overlaid with a series of misinterpretations (imagine that happening on the internet, of all places ). 

Silurs initial post refers to re-purposing PEGs work.

Pegasus' downloads came with the completely ridiculous and completely unenforceable disclaimer meaning that you could not reuse in any way shape or form even for your own purposes:

"This product is the exclusive property of Pegasus Productions and SC4Pegasus.Com. This product is expressly provided for entertainment purposes on authorized download pages. This product may not be altered, reused or redistributed in any way. Approvals for modification and commercial licenses can be requested via email at licenses@sc4pegasus.com."

I note that there are other discussions bubbling up to the surface around the site; and, my two cents....making changes to someone's model (either re-scaling, re-texturing or altering the actual model in any way) requires the author's permission to upload the changed version. Simply using an existing model as a linked dependency is standard practice. It is always polite to let the owner know out of courtesy, but isn't necessary.

 

At any rate, back to topic: JulianMIA, the peek-a-boo tunnel dressing is truly like one of those before and after shows on TV  

 

Edit: @JulianMIA, can I ask where that HD palm behind the bus shelter comes from? It's very realistic