nybt-forum-threads Seraf's Atelier

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Wonderful details. 

[Vlasky 1,803]

Lovely details tho I must admit, I can't recognize where they're from

 

Also, great interview Seraf. I enjoyed reading it!

[Seraf 1,238]

SimCoug - haha thanks!

 

Aaron Graham - Thank you

 

Vlasky - You know where they're from now And thank you I'm glad you enjoyed my interview

 

Small update on Hotel Penn. It looks like they plastered and painted the base of the building at some point but the original stone facades should still be there. I decided to make the base as it appeared originally.

 

[SimCoug 5,972]

Beautiful! I like the idea of the original stone facade. I'm really looking forward to seeing in game pics for this!

[T Wrecks 10,209]

^ I second this post. Hotel Penn is shaping up beautifully!

 

Btw, although this is rather off topic, did you know that pennen is a colloquial German verb that means "to sleep"? Makes the name of the hotel sound a bit like "Hotel Sleep" - quite appropriate!

[cmdp123789 710]

It looks really good.. I always like the fact that you show us just a part.. sometimes a tiny little part, yet our expectations for that tiny thing are tremendous!! CANT WAIT FOR IT ALREADY!!!

[Seraf 1,238]

Thank you guys for your kind words!

 

So, as you probably know by now, I agreed to contribute to NYBT International Month (yeah, can't believe it too ) this will by my first BAT in this style, I'm working hard to make it look good. The building is located on Madison Avenue between 27th and 28th street. I refer to is as 27E27thStreet:

 

[TekindusT 3,809]

That weird moment in which the BAT looks actually better than the building it recreates. Hotel Pennsylvania wasn't really nice when I visited NYC in 2008; no idea of its current status.

[Vlasky 1,803]

Wow Seraf, it really is coming together greatly! I think it will be a valuable addition to any city!

[cmdp123789 710]

I really like.. looks awesome! I love this month 

[JP Schriefer 5,590]

Looking great, Seraf!

[Hotwheeler 409]

It`s always a pleasure to see the favorite BAT Team working on something.

You`re doing a great Job on this Building.As for the Name,you could also call it "The Birchbox" because the Building houses a Company of that Name and i think it really suits the building.

I first thought the Roofjunk is still missing but as i saw at the original Building,the Roof is pretty empty compared to many other buildings of that size....only a large Patch of AC Units in the middle,some tiny Stuff scattered around the Roof and besidesd that nothing...One could evern play soccer on the Roof

[Seraf 1,238]

TekindusT - It was very nice hotel in the olden days Now it's only shadow of itself...

 

Vlasky - Thank you

 

cmdp123789 - Thank you

 

JP Schriefer - Thank you

 

Hotwheeler - Originally it was called "New York Life Insurance Company Annex" since it was addition to the main headquarters across 27th street. I don't know under what name I will upload it Yeah, there really isn't much roofjunk on this building, there was even less of it when the building was new A cafe on the rooftop for the employees would be great idea

 

Experimenting with roof materials... I can't get them right :/

 

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Looks great, you are doing so good I would love to see you make something large.

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Experimenting with roof materials... I can't get them right :/

Looking at the Google Maps satellite images, the tiles are much smaller, and the roof is somewhat darker. I think the grime looks very good so far. Not sure on this monitor, but I think the entire material may have a slight greenish tint to it - if so, then changing it to better match SimCity's usual colour palette would also help. However, since the grey background doesn't look so neutral on this monitor, either, the impression is probably due to the hardware I'm using and not to the material.

[Seraf 1,238]

Looks great, you are doing so good I would love to see you make something large.

 

You mean some huge, glass skyscraper? Noo, once I'm done with this one I'm going back to my columns and cornices

 

 

 

Experimenting with roof materials... I can't get them right :/

Looking at the Google Maps satellite images, the tiles are much smaller, and the roof is somewhat darker. I think the grime looks very good so far. Not sure on this monitor, but I think the entire material may have a slight greenish tint to it - if so, then changing it to better match SimCity's usual colour palette would also help. However, since the grey background doesn't look so neutral on this monitor, either, the impression is probably due to the hardware I'm using and not to the material.

 

 

Oh no no, the material of the roof itself is good, it looks like the one from the photos when the building was brand-new I meant this large AC unit, or rather - the small space around it :/

[Huston 5,798]

Not too familiar with the building itself, but from what I can tell, it looks really good. I can never really complain or critique when I see the building seems on track.

[Vlasky 1,803]

I'd say, go a bit darker and also there is a thing where you enable highlights+FG only for reflections so you avoid metal material reflecting blue skies above lol

 

I am awaiting blinds and am also curious about what causes difference on the first floor. 

[Seraf 1,238]

Not too familiar with the building itself, but from what I can tell, it looks really good. I can never really complain or critique when I see the building seems on track.

 

Haha, thanks!

 

 

I'd say, go a bit darker and also there is a thing where you enable highlights+FG only for reflections so you avoid metal material reflecting blue skies above lol

 

I am awaiting blinds and am also curious about what causes difference on the first floor. 

 

Thanks, I took your advice. By the "difference on the first floor" you mean the "blind" panels on the ground floor? I forgot to replace some of the old ones with new version

Small update; the only thing that's left is to add trees and roller blinds.

 

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

I know it's a recreation and it's awesome and stuff

 

But I always have a bad feeling about those blank side walls. I, personaly, don't care since I don't play SC4, but city builders, especially those how do not plop a whole city but just play the game, will have problems with hiding a blank wall from a main avenue

[Hotwheeler 409]

Wow, lookin better every day.Are there any infos about the SC 4 size in tiles?

@Toothless:Well, just think of the Building as a large full Block W2W Building with Roads on three Sides, so technically it's just a W2...

The bare sidewall will be covered by a neighboring Building anyway...

[Seraf 1,238]

I know it's a recreation and it's awesome and stuff

 

But I always have a bad feeling about those blank side walls. I, personaly, don't care since I don't play SC4, but city builders, especially those how do not plop a whole city but just play the game, will have problems with hiding a blank wall from a main avenue

 

I think you exaggerate the "problem" a bit If the building will grow in wrong place they can just demolish it and wait for something different to grow there (and I understand that this is how people build their cities). There's only one blank wall, it faces the back of the city block, people can easily put there some W2W building and it will look realistic.

 

Hotwheeler - Yes, 4x6 tiles It's between 5 and 6 tiles long so I'm going to make it 6.

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Hardly can imagine someone wanting to bulldoze this away...

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Love it!!! 

[Seraf 1,238]

Aaron Graham - Thanks Aaron!

 

Finishing touches before moving on to nightlights:

 

[SimCoug 5,972]

looks wonderful and very 'international'

 

I'm curious if you have any news regarding Hotel Pennsylvania 

[art128 4,618]

Model is excellent. Though you might want to add another couple roof junk as it seems too empty right now.

Looking at the RL building I can see some HVAC on the right, some pipes, a BMU on rail that goes around the top part and another one that goes around the bottom part. A kind of service room and a few antennas to the left. You also might want to dirty up a bit the texture as it seems way to clean now.

I don't know if you had all of that planned, but you might want to give it a shot. Don't get me wrong, the model is already excellent and if I wasn't working exclusively on small towns now, I'd use it right when it's available.. But it might add some more life to an otherwise great model.

 

Looking forward to the night lights.

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Curtains anywhere?

[Vlasky 1,803]

What is your plan for the interior? Will there be blinds? The part around HVAC does look too clean tho...

[Seraf 1,238]

looks wonderful and very 'international'

 

I'm curious if you have any news regarding Hotel Pennsylvania 

 

Thank you I was working on hotel Penn but it is currently on hold till I finish working on 27E27th Street for IM and then I want to work on hotel Penn a bit more before I show it to you guys

 

 

Model is excellent. Though you might want to add another couple roof junk as it seems too empty right now.

Looking at the RL building I can see some HVAC on the right, some pipes, a BMU on rail that goes around the top part and another one that goes around the bottom part. A kind of service room and a few antennas to the left. You also might want to dirty up a bit the texture as it seems way to clean now.

I don't know if you had all of that planned, but you might want to give it a shot. Don't get me wrong, the model is already excellent and if I wasn't working exclusively on small towns now, I'd use it right when it's available.. But it might add some more life to an otherwise great model.

 

Looking forward to the night lights.

 

Yes it is quite empty now but that's how it looked back in the 50's See for yourself:

 

 

Since I made the front elevation as it appeared originally I decided that I will make the rest of the building the same way

 

 

Curtains anywhere?

 

Of course! What? You thought I would leave it as it is?

 

 

What is your plan for the interior? Will there be blinds? The part around HVAC does look too clean tho...

 

I'm not sure now, I was going to put furniture inside but it looks like the blinds will block the view anyway so... But you're right about space around AC unit, I'll work on it after I'm finished with the blinds

 

You can see the comparison with/without blinds on the front elevation: