Project Orion - 3k Extended Boundary 1.0 Beta

when i put this mod in, my water station does not pump water?, everything other works great

 

I plop my water pumping station outside the boundary, it does pumping water. Only that the visual of the water table are off set. I had to rely on the k/gal indicators.

Does this apply to existing cities?

 

Be well :)

Have installed this wonderful mod and the RCI mod as well got to say its brilliant was able to create a city easily using the installation instructions. Took me a while to figure out which was the regional roads and which were the regional UDON roads but once I got them down everything is cool. Yes there are limitations but certainly this mod is worth having if only to put services outside the city. So thanks guys for releasing it. I t will take me a while to get used to it. I also installed UDON for the first time so I will have to learn  that too. This is a whole new game.....

I have mod correctly installed but when I drag zoning tool down roads that extend from the real city out into the 3k area, they zone tool stops at the border, am I doing something wrong?

 

it means that the road you use are not regional roads. Only regional roads can be drawn outside from the original city tile box.

Can you tell me why I can't zone outside the 'original box' ?... What am I missing?

A step in the right direction, I am glad the drama is over. 

I connected regional road and original roads, I tryed on each side and I couldn't zone outside the original box(

Can you tell me why I can't zone outside the 'original box' ?... What am I missing?

 

I connected regional road and original roads, I tryed on each side and I couldn't zone outside the original box(

 

This takes a bit of practice to some. Some users may zone freely as normal. Some users may need to zone from the inside of the default box. with using CTRL+Zone method, you may able to zone outside. The easiest way to deal with this is to download RCI Mod I've linked at the download page.

 

You know you could zone on roads that has a zone shadow besides the roads.

THANK YOU!! :)

 

Can you tell me why I can't zone outside the 'original box' ?... What am I missing?

 

I connected regional road and original roads, I tryed on each side and I couldn't zone outside the original box(

 

This takes a bit of practice to some. Some users may zone freely as normal. Some users may need to zone from the inside of the default box. with using CTRL+Zone method, you may able to zone outside. The easiest way to deal with this is to download RCI Mod I've linked at the download page.

 

You know you could zone on roads that has a zone shadow besides the roads.

 

If I will zone from the inside of the default box with using CTRL+Zone it will take whole day to only build one block, so if I can't zone normaly outside the original city limits this mod is pointless for me at the moment( I hope people that working on this mod will make it better soon, wishing them good luck and Thank you!
P.S. What is zone shadow?))

Noticed that within the normal city boundaries that plopping police, fire and medical centre close together, influences a wider area, so more buildings went to medium wealth than normal. Easily sorted by moving the services further apart.

 

Been running the mod for three hours with no problems.

 

Bit tricking at times plopping on the regional roads but zooming in a little helped. Placed water plant in regional area and its pumping fine. As is garbage, waste disposal and sewerage.

"In game regional roads and train tracks cannot be demolish."

You used to be able to do that with the BOC mod on Update 8, as a workaround/override on Update 10.1 you can rename the script file from BOC 0.98N and place it in SimCityUserData/Packages.

 

I've uploaded the renamed file here: https://mega.co.nz/#!W9BjmSzQ!Z70xpLxsdm426xH0iwuPg0yFpI0K117E7JTyGL77dTQ

Be aware that demolishing too much regional rail can cause the game to crash.

@dockter you must use the regional roads or regional udons or boc to build roads beyond the normal 2k area.  That's why those are provided except boc since its another released mod to be used for that purpose.

@damienmb yup.  A lot of things do not like to be modified without some risk.. Before now deleting track was limited to a small amount now your making changes to much larger sections of hard coded road with map sinks for deploying agents that were once out of sight and out of mind.

Roads OUTSIDE and ZONE must be connected to the main and built in SEGMENTS .. if you build a single road using freeform which would make a single long segment it will function differently than a segment that is built using smaller sections.

 

The trick is to use Freeform and Combinations of straight lines then ZONE and delete end caps you don't want to create more detailed configurations.  But we are limited to what we have as tools. That gives you more room to play and more rope to hang yourself with as a result so you will have to experiement.

 

I made it a habit of drawing a free form on 2 sides connecting each other basically making 2 long segments touching each other to figure out which side was the opposite of the xy 0 default anchor point.  Then delete it and create my city from that point afterwards.  Map selection changes how much you can do and really explore.

 

I have a feeling someone will go into every map soon and tell you which ones work best with the extended boundarys

I have a feeling someone will go into every map soon and tell you which ones work best with the extended boundarys

 

My favorite map to use with BOC is Granite Lake > Starlight Fields as it is flat and has lots of room towards the south and west.

Unfortunately Orion only lets me plop towards the north and east where there is little room. : (

@damienMB yea its funky .. the fact is having the map anchor being set to a static point only allows the useable space to be at the opposite point of the origin xy = 0 point.

 

So finding a map that lets you have room and flat space to build on can be a challenge then regional roads and other things get in the way so your first thought is to re draw the regional roads that were there however tampering with them and getting to close to the map sinks can cause issues

 

But i'm sure like everything the ideas will now start to evolve now that road maps to nearly all types of content modification and behaviors have now been published

Can the border line be drawn to represent the area that can be built in? Instead of expanded in every direction.

Also could it be possible to bulldoze regional trees?

@damienmb not that I found.. 

 

You have 6 values

-1024 -1024 -2048 (those must stay the same)

second set was

1024 1024 2048 (these first 2 must change but leave the last one to preserve the original RCI)

3072 3027 2048 (engine then leaves the RCI in place and extends the roads and boundaries from the original points which are hard  coded values which is why it is only working on 2 sides but doesn't kill original city zone)

 

I worked on it 2 weeks and was asking the developers to try and figure out a way to shift the rci zone as well to make it proportional but it kind of never will be due to the engines hardcoded values vs data driven values.

 

2048 = 2k = from center offset = 1024 = 1k from center (hence the hard coded values)

 

so you are kind of playing a trick on the engine by lying about what is center and what is boundary .. its more of a smoke and mirror values trick in numbers than a "mod" in the normal sense

 

we can't mod(ify) the values that are hard coded and that's the problem

Nice First Release

@shoko we just didn't think we could do any better than we really already did .. 3k was the sweet spot for management and space improvement with the limitations.. if we can improve we will in time

So, the computer has to be rebooted in order for this to work? Mine hasn't yet...

@saggg

create a city

exit game

go back into game

go back into city you should see new extended boundary

 

if you do not then there is another issue .. location of the mod .. extraction.. corruption something else most likely

Okay, thanks, I'll try that....

Does UDON had to be installed for this to work?