ROAD TOP MASS TRANSIT 1.0

PERFECT ! :)

Brown boxes from bullshit bearacracy about dependencies. 1 star.

How do you instill this? Where do I put the folder? Newbie here.. :(

why is there a box on the bus stop?

what are the dependencies? what do i need to install? i dont understand it...

maybe you should tell everyone what the dependencies are.

it looks awesome btw, so the boxfest is a real shame.

Great for saving space, but hard to replace.

Love this bus stop transit. Saves more room, creates the city more metro-like,but a few things I hate.

• Boxes
• Need to tell us Dependencies
• ReadMe gave me more lag
• Going to give you 1-star.

     Overall, it's 3¼/5

This mod is good, but it takes a ridiculous amount of time (>1 hour) to configure everything.

Well... as it says in the description, there is an intaller to facilitate the process. I didn't use it myself tho so i don't know if it is better. Probably !

Well... as it says in the description, there is an intaller to facilitate the process. I didn't use it myself tho so i don't know if it is better. Probably !

Well... as it says in the description, there is an intaller to facilitate the process. I didn't use it myself tho so i don't know if it is better. Probably !

Nice!

This mod is good, but it takes a ridiculous amount of time (>1 hour) to configure everything.

 

Hahahaaa!!! You obviously have never installed FCOM for Oblivion...

Good stuff. Read the readme to avoid brown boxes

I want to make a suggestion. This is a great mod, really necessary to have realistic bus stops, but the whole procedure to set everything up is very, very tiresome and takes unnecessarily long. You have these complex configuration options to set up how you want your bus stops to look like, but for most players they will be unncessary as they don't care how their stops will look like. The most important thing is to have working stops on the streets and roads. My suggestion is to add a ready-to-use configuration of different props and models, which users can simply add in their plugin folder without going through this tiresome configuration phase. Also, in my opinion, modding in SC4 is often made uncessarily hard with all these dependencies to search and download, the links in the readme files don't ever work and you have to search them for yourself. In many other games, things such as dependencies don't even exist, or they are always enclosed with the mod you want. This isn't your fault, and I don't want to criticize you, just make a suggestion. The mod itself is great.

I want to make a suggestion.
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Also, in my opinion, modding in SC4 is often made uncessarily hard with all these dependencies to search and download, the links in the readme files don't ever work and you have to search them for yourself. In many other games, things such as dependencies don't even exist, or they are always enclosed with the mod you want. This isn't your fault, and I don't want to criticize you, just make a suggestion. The mod itself is great.

Hi Canelo,

Just as a reminder, part of the use of dependencies is to limit the need to download files used by multiple mods. If every mod that used the same files included them in the upload, plugins folders would skyrocket in size. Could you imagine the BSC Essentials included in every single BAT and LOT that used them? My 8gb plugins folder would be at least twice as large! The Great Dependency Debate is a long one (thread now closed), but a lot of it is linked to both copyright (of the creator) and game performance (which is linked directly to plugins size and assets in game, much of which is owed to the game's age).

That being said, your comments about the installation procedure are spot on, and believe it or not RTMT development is ongoing despite most of the key members being dormant or inactive or in ill health. I believe they are working on a streamlined process for installation, but of course everything is crazy slow when you only have a few members of the team left working on stuff.

That being said good things may be in store...you'll just probably have wait until after the new NAM comes out, and then some .

thanks for all your comments !

as a part of the small RTMT team we have left, we are still plugging away at getting version 4 out the door..

Comments pertaining to the complexity of the props install will be taken into consideration to be sure. I am also hopeful we can make this next version dependency free

All testing has been completed now and so we are on the final stages of getting the install package together

OMG NO WAY! trasnporation on sidewalks! ugggggg! im in love. thank you thank you thank you. 

Supposed to be a game instead it felt like a lecture. 

I skipped it. 

Too many options and choices. 

I thought I was done with the first set of choices and then bam, you need props and what not or you get brown boxes. 

Just wasted 10 minutes reading through ten pages worth of instructions written in Ferengi. 

If by this you mean read the manual, then I couldn't have said it better myself. The advanced Prop customisation options of RTMT have necessitated some complexity when installing the mod. You can keep all the models installed, what's important is that you only keep the Prop files you want to use (Single Prop Mode). In other words, you should only keep one Phonebooth Prop, one Bus Shelter Prop and so on. This will ensure the correct models are displayed. If you try and remove the Model files to achieve the same, you'll have conflicting Props that will most likely lead to missing Props or Brown Boxes in-game.

No worries. I got it.I was just venting at first bc I was tired but after following the direction I got it and worked very well. I do need a better computer thought; once my cities reach 200,000; the computer slows down alot. 

I wish that it could be expanded to include more roadways! I tried adding it to NAM's 7 lane roads and couldn't find a station, lol. It's is very possible that I am totally using the 7 lane roads wrong and I was using Ninjas 3 in one service station alot b4 so. I'm also learning not to gridlock all my cities but I am a very very early noob still trying to figure out how NAM even works let alone canals, GLR stations and all that fun. 

This thing is kicking my ass; can't seem to get it to work! 

@jndietz , this is a general limitation of the game. Although they're transit enable lots, they're still lots, and the game reads them as that. All road-top mass transit stations suffer because of this limitation, not only this mod. For the game, there is no difference between what you describe and replacing road access with a park or a power plant. The only workaround with it is making sure that the lot of the grow-able building will have at least one tile of it touching a free road tile. For instance, if you have a small 1X1 bus stop, make sure the homes or shops around it are at least 2X1 in lot size.