I.M. Corbusier

Followed all installation directions carefully, including deleting specified individual files. No install issues. I'm finding that any city I attempt to load (tried with multiple different cities from different regions) will get probably 2/3rds or 3/4ths of the way through loading process and then I get a CTD. Going back to the old version of NAM fixes things.

Yes, I think this is correct...unfortunately. It's pretty clear that NAM 38 itself is probably not the culprit in this problem. I seem to have 2 equally unpalatable choices. I can do a complete manual rebuild of the folder, re-downloading everything from scratch, or adding back my various folders and files one at a time and rebooting the game at each point. As the age old question goes - "Feathers or lead?" I think I may take a spin through SC4DataNode and see if I can identify some chaff to separate from the wheat, so I know what actually needs to undergo retest or re-download. I guess this is an indication of how much I like the game and our community - that I'm willing to go forward with this much effort says how much I get out of it. Withdrawal is gonna be tough . Anyway - thanks to all for your assistance, it was and is much appreciated!

OK, just finished a non-galaxy, offline reinstall of the GOG version to a separate drive. Same problem. No problem with a clean install of NAM38. Add back in my previously working plugins and get the CTD. Something has changed, clearly. I'm going to look and see if I can find an earlier backup of my plugins directory and try using that. OK- found 2 separate earlier backups of my plugins. Tried both, neither worked.

Some followup: I have spent so much time on this, i figured, why not try the GOG version, see if any differences. I downloaded a new clean install from GOG (put this one on a separate drive, staying away from the x86 program files on the boot drive. Pretty much the same story - I can get a clean install of NAM 38 to launch successfully, but restoring the rest of the plugins files gets me back to a CTD. Interestingly, the exception report shows 1024 MB RAM available, rather than the 4096 being reported on the CTDs from the steam version. Makes me wonder if the GOG version is unpatchable. So, it would suggest that the problem is not likely to be related to a peculiarity of Steam. Is there any possibility that the SC4DataNode program might be any help? I'm not entirely sure how to utilize it, but just wondering. Kind of grasping at straws here.

I have tried applying the patch and immediately launching the app from the /Apps subfolder, both with and without steam running and it doesn't change the CTD.

Well, I seem to be back to square 1 here. In an entirely unrelated incident, the drive where my previously working install was residing was accidentally formatted when I while I was booted on the Mac side (fat finger syndrome should be a contraindication to using the Terminal.app in OS X) a trying to do some things with Wine and Wineskin. Long story short, I lost my working SC4 install and had to start over. No biggie, right? It worked before, I knew how to properly patch the install and to install NAM 38 in plugins before putting anything else back. As of right now, I can launch and use a vanilla install with a clean NAM 38 install, but when I put plugins back, I get CTDs during initial map loading from the region. I have observed the following: 1. when launching with only the clean NAM install in plugins, I see utilization of RAM which is consistent with the previous working install I lost and is also consistent with the patch being in place. 2. With the plugins restored, I get a CTD at a point in RAM utilization which is very similar to when I was trying to open an unpatched version. 3. After these crashes, if I run a "verify integrity of game files" from Steam, it tells me 1 file failed to validate and will be reacquired. 4. Not sure if this is related, but if I run the integrity check immediately after the patch, I get the same result - 1 bad file. The exception report does appear to show that the patch is indeed in place. Nothing has changed in my plugins since I lost the previous install, so I'm really at my wits end figuring out what's going on. I am now Sim-less and would really like to get up and running again. Going to the Mac side is not an option due to the many lots that have "32float Rev 1" issues. Hopefully someone has some ideas about what may have happened...

Thanks for the kind words. I am enjoying the new features quite a bit. I am immensely appreciative of the amount of work the NAM team has put into the project. It is such a detailed and multilayered mod that I am needing to go "back to school" to get up to speed. A good problem to have! The much more realistic grade and curve limitations for the railroads are providing an interesting challenge . Next project is to figure out how to get things up and running on the Mac side. Those pesky float32 issues are looking to be very common and I'm not sure how I can tackle 5 or 6 GB worth of lots. In any event, thanks to all for the assistance and another big shout out to the NAM team as a whole. Well done!

Patched the wrong file. Full NAM 38 install now working. Think I'm gonna change my name and go back into quarantine... and file this thread in the "did you check to see if it's plugged in?" folder.

I have been playing around with different iterations of NAM 38 installed into a clean plugin folder, from full boat down to core-only files. The game still does a CTD during the late stages of city loading, even with brand new cities from stock regions. This does not vary, except that once or twice the program completely failed to launch at all. I could get back to my "old familiar" crash by doing a local file integrity check with Steam. I do not appear to be having an issue with RAM - the max use I see immediately before crash is about 820-830 MB. Here is a copy of the most recent exception report: Exception time: 09/14/2020, at 22:39:26. Exception code: 0xC0000005 (-1073741819) ACCESS_VIOLATION. Current thread ID: 10712 (0x000029d8). Version information: Application/module path: F:\Steam\steamapps\common\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe Application/module version name: SimCity 4 Application/module version: 1.1.641.0 System version: Windows NT 6.2 System memory: 2048 Megabytes total, 2048 Megabytes free. Exception module: F:\Steam\steamapps\common\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe. Exception address: 0x005b9feb. Section:Offset: 0x01:0x001b2feb. Registers EAX: 00000000 EBX: 0019f9c8 ECX: 00000000 EDX: 00000000 ESI: 00000009 EDI: 94000004 CS:EIP: 0023:005b9feb SS:ESP: 002b:0019f904 EBP:0019f94c DS:002b ES:002b FS:0053 GS:002b Flags: 00210202 Loaded Modules Address Size Module Path ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0x00400000 8511488 SimCity 4.exe F:\Steam\steamapps\common\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe 0x77230000 1716224 ntdll.dll C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll 0x751f0000 983040 KERNEL32.DLL C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNEL32.DLL 0x76490000 2174976 KERNELBASE.dll C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNELBASE.dll 0x65e20000 651264 apphelp.dll C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\apphelp.dll 0x76e90000 495616 ADVAPI32.dll C:\WINDOWS\System32\ADVAPI32.dll 0x76a30000 782336 msvcrt.dll C:\WINDOWS\System32\msvcrt.dll 0x76f90000 479232 sechost.dll C:\WINDOWS\System32\sechost.dll 0x76db0000 761856 RPCRT4.dll C:\WINDOWS\System32\RPCRT4.dll 0x75b60000 4554752 WININET.dll C:\WINDOWS\System32\WININET.dll 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twinapi.appcore.dl C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\twinapi.appcore.dll 0x50670000 32768 avrt.dll C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\avrt.dll Call stack: (Debug information (.pdb files) appears to be absent). 0x0001:0x001b2feb F:\Steam\steamapps\common\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe. 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Some patterns are emerging. Up to about 17 files found so far. Essentially ALL of jestarr's transit enabled lots show this problem. Across the board, independent of author, the transit enabled lots have the error for "Transit switch entry cost" and "Transit switch traffic capacity." To varying degrees a descriptor of "unknown" also is seen. All of the non-transit enabled lots I have found with the problem seem to solely have the "unknown" descriptor error.

A brief progress note: installing NAM 38 into a clean plugins folder did not work. I have also been doing a survey of my plugins, trying to identify transit-enabled lots. So far have found 2 transit lots with a Float32 Rep value set at 1 instead of 0. As a matter of curiosity, I looked at some of the non-transit lots by one of those authors and lo and behold, one of the first I looked at (a ploppable residential lot) had a similar issue. This leads me to think that this problem may be significantly more widespread than just a few transit lots.

Glad to see your post! I have been able to run on the windows side with good stability when I get rid of the NAM 37 plugin and revert to older version. I have been diving into some of your older posts on the exemplar 1 vs 0, 32 bit float issue, which is somewhat beyond the limits of my understanding of OS's and computers in general. If I only had a few plugins, I would probably just dive into iLives reader back on the windows side and do things manually, but with number of files I'm dealing with, that is a non-starter. My hope would be that someone could figure out a java-based script that could parse these files and make the exemplar correction in bulk. My experience running the base install of SC4 in Mojave was, well W00t city! It is blindingly fast on my machine. I can only hope that a generous member with the programming skills can come up with a patch for us folks who would like to stay on the Mac side. Just as a side-note - I won't be going beyond Mojave, as my machine is a 2010 model and will not support Catalina. What I do think I will try is to redo my Steam install on the Windows 10 side (yes, running 64 bit). I'll start totally clean and install NAM 38 before anything else and then restore plugins. Will report back after I've done this. With regards to the 4GB patch, which I assume I will have to reapply to my clean re-install, I can say with confidence that it did seem to apply to my last go on Win 10. I was able to identify a new, current date on the launcher and a backup version was present as well. As for the question of the patch being correctly installed, I'm not sure how I would assess that. Thanks again! PS - do you have any info on the hard limit on file number in plugins for the Mac version?

Whelp, I just spent the last 3 hours getting installed on the Mac Mojave side. Found the necessary launch parameter changes for steam which allowed the program to open. I subsequently was able to apply NAM 38 into a totally stock install with a clean plugins folder. I identified a number of previously downloaded regions whose presence in the regions folder alone was enough to prevent the program from launching. I subsequently found that I could not add back my plugins - this would prevent the program from even launching. At 4.6 GB and >7000 individual files, this is not going to be amenable to troubleshooting. Not sure where I'll go from here,,,

Thanks for the prompt input, Tarkus. I do indeed run 64 bit windows and the patch has taken place, for sure, with a backup exe file and a recent date for the launcher. I'd like to keep to the Windows side for gaming, but given the issues, I'll have a look at the mac version.

It occurs to me that my system specs might be helpful :). 2010 Mac Pro, dual boot (NOT bootcamp) 12 core, 128GB RAM, NVME m.2 2 TB boot drive, game installed on 2nd 500 GB SATA SSD, Radeon RX 580 8GB

OK, so I still had the problem with NAM 37 after the 4 GB patch was successfully applied. I've installed NAM 38 now and still have the problem. The system still does a CTD while loading cities. It does not matter if I am loading an existing city within a custom imported region, a region I have made myself or a city within an official, original SC4 region. It also happens when making a new city for the first time in any of those scenarios. Here's a transcript of the most recent exception report: I notice that the report lists my system memory at 2GB - is this of any significance? Exception time: 09/10/2020, at 09:23:59. Exception code: 0xC0000005 (-1073741819) ACCESS_VIOLATION. Current thread ID: 17356 (0x000043cc). Version information: Application/module path: F:\Steam\steamapps\common\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe Application/module version name: SimCity 4 Application/module version: 1.1.641.0 System version: Windows NT 6.2 System memory: 2048 Megabytes total, 2048 Megabytes free. Exception module: F:\Steam\steamapps\common\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe. Exception address: 0x005b9feb. Section:Offset: 0x01:0x001b2feb. 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I have always been pretty organized about my Plugin directory and I take pains to make sure that I keep dependency files up to date. I use Cleanitol religiously whenever I'm given a remove file and I rarely, if ever have issues with missing dependencies. However...at 1700+ files and 3.6GB, I don't see how I can troubleshoot the suspected issue easily. Any pointers or recommendations at this point would be most welcome. I have been very much looking forward to using the features of the new NAM and to have this ongoing issue is...disappointing. Many thanks!

Thanks, Yarahi. Appreciate the fast response - my bad on the dat file. Forgot I had that one. Yes I have the other prop pack you linked to and it is installed correctly.

OK, so I have this rather old power plant lot file which is missing some dependencies. It's a convenient power plant to have when I'm focusing more on design and aesthetics for a given map, with it's stats it is definitely "fire and forget." and allows me to concentrate on other things. I've been searching high and low for it, but it doesn't seem to be anywhere. I'm posting a screen image and the associated model, lot and desc files which I do have, in hopes that someone will be able to help me get this fully functional. Many thanks in advance! Cheers, Russ Anti-Matter Reactor_2fe00f18.SC4lot piro_ringhiera-0x6534284a-0xad3559c2-0x0da417c5.SC4Desc ppsilo-0x5ad0e817_0xcdd85d67_0x100000.SC4Model Ooops, forgot the dat file - here it is: Anti-matterPowerPlant.dat

Sorry for the late response. I'm not sure if I've done the 4GB patch. Is there an easy way to tell?

Thanks for the welcome, Cori. Your suggestion of keeping the game pathway as an archive is a good one. I have a bunch of stuff I have recently downloaded and will follow your advice on careful additions. I am particularly looking forward to using the CamElot and Colossus stuff up and running.

Howdy, all! Getting back into SC4 after a long absence. I finally got up and running a couple days ago and it's good to be back in the fold, so to speak. I had a passing familiarity with Simtropolis from my old days, and had done some downloading and modding in the past, but sadly, those skills have atrophied. I figured now would be a good time to put more than a toe in the water and actually become a member. I installed the Steam version on my computer and in the course of going through old boxes and disks, I came across a DVD with around 3GB of plugins. I dumped this data into the Plugins folder in the Steam path of installation and things seem to run ok. However, in the course of reading up, I got the impression that I should have put the data in the /Documents/ SimCity4 /Plugins path. Did I mess anything up doing what I did? My second question is very basic - how do I put newly downloaded lots into the game? I seem to recall from the past that somehow, many of these files would get installed where they needed to be when the files were opened. I'm not looking forward to doing it manually. Looking forward to participating going forward and maybe even doing some of my own modding. Cheers!