SENT 2.1

Thanks for this mod! I love the textures and parking additions to OWR1.

Besides, I detected some kind of conflict with Simfox QuiTao Building as show in the picture.

It seems some Road FLUPs FSH are ovewriting FSH from SimFox building. Not sure but maybe repeated TGI?

Thank you @kergelen for pointing out this error. I simply forgot to change the Group for bridges and FLUPs. I've corrected the problem, and I've contacted Cori so that she can publish the new corrected version (I can't do it myself, because of the STEX limit in relation to the volume of data).

1 hour ago, Aka said:

I've contacted Cori so that she can publish the new corrected version (I can't do it myself, because of the STEX limit in relation to the volume of data).

v1.1 now uploaded.

(It's a Cloudflare limit so the only way even I can upload a file this size is when CB temporarily disables that service.)

Hi there, do you mind me asking, is the 1x1 roundabout in the bottom left of this picture a part of the mod? if not were did it come from? I've been looking everywhere! Many thanks.

Hello, the roundabout you are looking for is part of the NAM. Download the latest version of the NAM to access this option.

The configuration is a little unusual: to create a four-way roundabout with RD-2 (Road Maxis), you must first build a conventional intersection with RD-2. Then, using the “railway” network, simply build over the intersection and this will automatically create a four-way roundabout for RD-2.

Thanks you so much! That one was driving me crazy! Really appreciate the help.

I just got version 2.1 and it has kept the same bug from v2.0. I'm using RHD-Yellow and the Firenze crossing look like this:

Oddly enough, RHD-White has the correct street texture but the wrong road median (bright yellow). I forgot to take a picture, but I think you get the idea.

The same deal happens with one-way streets. They actually look really nice in RHD-White, but in yellow…

I thought maybe something was loading out of order, but it doesn't make sense that RHD-White works better, so I'd appreciate any help (I can also copy this comment in the development thread, if you'd prefer). Thanks!

Hi @Girafarig,

After a few tests, I think you must have done something wrong.

Here are some images with the RHD White and Yellow version, everything works as expected:

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Have you correctly installed the option to get SENT with the SAM 8 - Firenze mod? Make sure that SENT is read last in your plugins folder (this doesn't seem to be your problem, but you never know). SENT must overwrite all third-party mods listed in the mod's dependencies, and therefore must be read after them.

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I hope this helps. Let me know if you still encounter any problems.

Best regards

Aka

10 minutes ago, Aka said:

Have you correctly installed the option to get SENT with the SAM 8 - Firenze mod? Make sure that SENT is read last in your plugins folder (this doesn't seem to be your problem, but you never know). SENT must overwrite all third-party mods listed in the mod's dependencies, and therefore must be read after them.

I have tried adding "zzz_" to the relevant SENT folders (which sometimes, but not always does the trick —macos is a bit weird in that regard) and it doesn't work.

What does do the trick is adding "zzz_" to the "Sent 3 - Texture Replacement" file. Considering the files are otherwise exactly in the order and names the installer added them in, maybe you'd like to consider some renaming for the benefit of, at the very least, macos users, to make sure things load correctly within the SENT folder.

Anyway, now it looks right! Thanks for your help and for the absolutely insane amount of work and craft that has gone into SENT.

7 minutes ago, Girafarig said:

What does do the trick is adding "zzz_" to the "Sent 3 - Texture Replacement" file. Considering the files are otherwise exactly in the order and names the installer added them in, maybe you'd like to consider some renaming for the benefit of, at the very least, macos users, to make sure things load correctly within the SENT folder.

I don't know anything about how MacOS works, and I'm not sure I understand what you mean about reading files for this OS. Can you take screenshots of the file paths for SENT?

Aka

18 minutes ago, Aka said:

I don't know anything about how MacOS works, and I'm not sure I understand what you mean about reading files for this OS. Can you take screenshots of the file paths for SENT?

Aka

Here's my current SENT folder:

Note I added "zzzz_" after the first SENT folder (which is where I keep it alongside its dependencies) and the actual SENT folder, a.k.a the one that the installer puts in there (it should be "SENT – Yellow" or something). That didn't do the trick.

Then, within the SENT folder inside the SENT folder (?), all the files are installed just like the installer puts them. SENT 1, SENT 2, etc. I had to manually add "zzz_" to the Firenze mod file in particular to make it work. I'll check my other cities next with other textures, because I think the same issue replicates in them. I think the important thing is that SENT 1 loads first.

"SENT 1" should load before everything else, but I have heard that macos loads any numbered files in weird ways. I don't exactly know how or why, but it does, and a cursory search on the internet suggest using "1.0" and so forth. It also loads lowercase files before uppercase ones in all cases, I think. All this to say that I'm not exactly sure what's the issue with loading order in macos, but I do know that it's different because I've had some issues with other mods.

  Edited November 23, 2025 by Girafarig  

MacOS uses a completely different system for file and folder ordering. Using underscores or other characters will lead to undesirable effects.

Ultimately you are better off using a simpler system without characters, to get a consistent load order.

Have one Z folder ONLY, zLast or something. Inside that, use numbers or letters to force order of mods to load. For example 1Mod1, 2Mod2 etc or AMod1, BMod2. Anything else and you may have a hard time working out the true order things are loading in. 

Hi! I'm just trying this mod for the first time and the textures are beautiful! I'm having a problem though where the textures only appear next to zones they won't appear next to plopped lots like landmarks ect, is this right? Many thanks!
 

Hello @SneakyDeaky,, thank you for your compliment! In principle, there are no known issues with SENT and the template bug you mention.

Try this:

1 - Rename your plugins folder to something else, such as “Original Plugins” (under C:\Users\Documents\SimCity 4\Plugins").
2 - Create a new folder with the correct name, “Plugins.”
3 - Inside, place only the NAM mod and the SENT mod, which must be read after the NAM mod.
4 - Try the game. If everything works, it means that you have a mod that interferes with the SENT mod in your Original Plugins folder. This mod is certainly read after the SENT mod and, by definition, overwrites the SENT textures for networks without zones/monuments.
5 - But if, despite this little test, the problem persists, repeat the test, but this time, do a new installation of NAM and SENT.

Aka

2 hours ago, Aka said:

Hello @SneakyDeaky,, thank you for your compliment! In principle, there are no known issues with SENT and the template bug you mention.

Try this:

1 - Rename your plugins folder to something else, such as “Original Plugins” (under C:\Users\Documents\SimCity 4\Plugins").
2 - Create a new folder with the correct name, “Plugins.”
3 - Inside, place only the NAM mod and the SENT mod, which must be read after the NAM mod.
4 - Try the game. If everything works, it means that you have a mod that interferes with the SENT mod in your Original Plugins folder. This mod is certainly read after the SENT mod and, by definition, overwrites the SENT textures for networks without zones/monuments.
5 - But if, despite this little test, the problem persists, repeat the test, but this time, do a new installation of NAM and SENT.

Aka

Hi! Many thanks for your response. So I did as you said over the past couple hours (large plugin folder) and I have narrowed it down to @rsc204's No Grass Mod (NGN)
MGB - No Grass NAM (NGN) - Graphical Mods - Simtropolis

Which makes sense now as it affects the grass around plopped lots. 

I assume it's not compatible or I have installed NGN or SENT or both incorrectly?
Many thanks!

16 hours ago, SneakyDeaky said:

I assume it's not compatible or I have installed NGN or SENT or both incorrectly?

It is compatible, but only for networks that are not supported by SENT. I had exactly the same conversation recently. Please see here for more information. I think it will be very helpful to you:

https://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/763491-sent-support-development/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-1809871

Ah! Ok. thank you for the link. All makes sense now. Still determined to use SENT it has my favourite road textures so far, beautifully done!

You need to understand that removing the grass doesn't mean literally a mod that does exactly that. NGN (like TGN or any other texture mod), all replace the same textures with variants that alter how they appear. So no SENT is not cross compatible with any of my mods where they are replacements for the same networks. NGN and TGN versions of SENT are not possible without extensive modifications at this point.

However, you can keep NGN, TGN, SWN or my SAM mods, for those networks you are not using SENT for. I would recommend loading SENT after MGB mods, which will prioritise those you've installed for SENT (so they appear).

On 11/28/2025 at 2:21 PM, rsc204 said:

You need to understand that removing the grass doesn't mean literally a mod that does exactly that. NGN (like TGN or any other texture mod), all replace the same textures with variants that alter how they appear. So no SENT is not cross compatible with any of my mods where they are replacements for the same networks. NGN and TGN versions of SENT are not possible without extensive modifications at this point.

However, you can keep NGN, TGN, SWN or my SAM mods, for those networks you are not using SENT for. I would recommend loading SENT after MGB mods, which will prioritise those you've installed for SENT (so they appear).

Ah thank you for the information. I didn't appreciate the No Grass Mod is a replacement rather than a "suppression" of the grass.

Just out of interest, do you know why the game decides on the grass texture when we plop a building? So it decides on a texture based on the wealth type when a lot grows but when plopped it picks grass? It would be great to suppress that behavior somehow without having to make a full set of replacements.    

Many thanks!

Can’t be easily changed, although I think there was an experimental DLL aimed at this side of things.

Bottom line that’s how the game was coded to work. There are eight wealthing textures and the one that appears is based on the zones touching the network. Maxis added grass to the Low Wealth textures, so those areas are what shows grass. Med/High wealth do not.

Now whilst you might suppress the grass with a DLL mod for results like NGN, you’d still need replacement textures to get different grass like TGN to work.

Oddly sidewalks are different, those can be changed at will and be applied as a layer to the network texture. Essentially any part of the texture that is transparent gets filled in by whatever sidewalk is in use.

On 12/4/2025 at 8:15 AM, rsc204 said:

Can’t be easily changed, although I think there was an experimental DLL aimed at this side of things.

Bottom line that’s how the game was coded to work. There are eight wealthing textures and the one that appears is based on the zones touching the network. Maxis added grass to the Low Wealth textures, so those areas are what shows grass. Med/High wealth do not.

Now whilst you might suppress the grass with a DLL mod for results like NGN, you’d still need replacement textures to get different grass like TGN to work.

Oddly sidewalks are different, those can be changed at will and be applied as a layer to the network texture. Essentially any part of the texture that is transparent gets filled in by whatever sidewalk is in use.

Many thanks for all the information. I wish I wasn't so much of a Luddite lol.