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Award Category Ideas - 


Much like the Oscars, the Trixies just wouldn't be complete without The Awards themselves! 
Here is a thread where you can suggest what default categories you'd like to see... :read:


The Trixie Awards traditionally feature a selection of categories which can be used to submit nominations for. These have ranged from content on the STEX, creativity in the CJs, to wide-ranging contributions in the forums. With the previous 12 editions of the Trixies, the categories have been pre-defined by the admins, and the only method of suggesting different awards was by submitting a custom nomination.

So starting for the 2015-2016 Trixies, prior to the start of nominations, we're opening up the suggestions to the community!


Last time the Trixies were held, the categories were simplified in an attempt to make the process less overwhelming. When in actual fact, all this did was the precise opposite. There were fewer nominations per category, and less variations of each type of award. For instance with custom content and CJs, there were only more general themes, which encompassed the more niche categories.

This time, by allowing you all to choose what you'd be interested in submitting nominations for, hopefully it can provide a much broader selection to choose from. This should also help with searching for possible candidates, as it will give a clearer perspective.

In other words, we're asking you to nominate awards, to be used as the awards! :lol:

 

Post Your Ideas Below

You may add multiple posts with multiple ideas, or single posts with single ideas -- it's completely your choice...
Just remember we're looking for the title here, for example:

Best Llama Impression
OR
Most Likely to outrun a Llama
OR
Llama Dedication Award


And feel free to discuss and hit the Like button for ideas you, hmm, well... Like. :thumb:

They will then be populated into the below index lists for final consideration by the Llama Crew.


Similar with how it worked in 2014, there will be at least 3 types of general awards:
(There could be more yet, we'll see...)

  • Custom Content
    Buildings, lots, mods, maps, and their many variations.
     
  • City Journals
    Types, styles, genres, themes, countries, presentation, etc.
     
  • Community
    Forum awards, site contributions, members, staff, special mentions & moments, etc.

 

At this stage, ideas don't need to be specific for a particular game or year (2015 or 2016), as most awards can be doubled up for that purpose.
Also don't worry about duplicating someone's idea. That just proves it's a good one!

Whether big or small, we look forward to hearing your ideas! :idea:

 

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  • Custom Content

    An A-Z list of ideas posted for Custom Content awards.

     

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    Archaeology Trixie
    BAT of the Year
    BATer of the Year
    Best Attention To Usability
    Best Automata
    Best BAT Newcomer of the Year
    Best BAT Team
    Best Behind The Scenes BAT Support
    Best Content Creation Artist
    Best Custom BAT
    Best Custom Lot
    Best Custom Lot Pack
    Best Dependency
    Best Dev Thread
    Best Effort In Compatibility
    Best Fictional Map
    Best Handmade Recreation Map
    Best Innovation
    Best Interchange
    Best Large Scale Project
    Best Lot Editor Resource Pack
    Best Lotter
    Best Map
    Best Modular Lot Pack
    Best New Uploader
    Best Original Lot
    Best Overall BAT
    Best Post-War BAT
    Best Post-War BATer
    Best Pre-War BAT
    Best Pre-War BATer
    Best Relot
    Best Terrain Map
    Best Tool/Mod
    Big Building of the Year
    Breaking the Game Award
    Explorator Trixie
    Hidden Treasure Trixie
    Highest Overall Quality
    Lot of the Year
    Map of the Year
    Mod of the Year
    Modding Tool of the Year
    Most Anticipated BAT
    Most Beautiful Small Addition
    Most Important Discovery/Innovation
    Most Improved BATer
    Most Inventive Creation
    Most Realistic Creation
    Most Useful Creation
    Most Useful Dependency
    Most Useful Small Addition
    Museum Curator Trixie
    Nugget of the Year
    Quickest Quality BATer
    Small Building of the Year
    Themed Set of the Year

    TOTAL: 57

     

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  • City Journals

    An A-Z list of ideas posted for City Journal Awards.

     

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    Best Agriculture
    Best Airports
    Best American Style City Journal
    Best Application Of Public Transportation
    Best Asian City Journal
    Best Asian Style City Journal
    Best Bonus Content
    Best CBD
    Best City Journal Development
    Best City Journal Startup
    Best City Layout
    Best City Planner
    Best Custom Lotting
    Best Detail
    Best Disaster
    Best European Style City Journal
    Best Fictional City Journal
    Best Foreign Landscapes
    Best Functional City Journal
    Best Graphical Artwork in City Journal
    Best Grimy/Grunge City Journal
    Best Historical City Journal
    Best Industrial Work/Creation
    Best Industry
    Best MMP Use
    Best Narration
    Best Natural Environment/Landscape Area
    Best Newspaper
    Best Nursed City Journal
    Best Overall Design
    Best Parks
    Best Photoshopping
    Best Planning
    Best Portland
    Best Presentation
    Best Real World Recreation
    Best Recreation of a Real World Location
    Best Road Map
    Best Roadgeek
    Best Rural/Agriculture
    Best Science Fiction City Journal
    Best Seaports
    Best Slums
    Best Story
    Best Suburban Area
    Best Transportation Network
    Best Urban Area
    Best Use of MMP'S
    Best Use of Railroads
    Best Visual City Journal
    Best Working Public Transport
    City Journal of the Year
    Most Aesthetically Pleasing City Journal
    Most Attention To Detail
    Most Awe-inspiring City Journal
    Most Chaotic City Journal
    Most Despotic Major
    Most Dieselpunk Looking City Journal
    Most Disastrous City Journal
    Most Effective Use of Custom Content
    Most Efficient City
    Most Entertaining City Journal
    Most Informative City Journal
    Most Pictorial Country Life
    Most Profitable City
    Most Shattering Environment
    Most Visually Realistic City Journal
    Most Weird City Journal

    TOTAL: 68

     

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  • Community

    An A-Z list of ideas posted for Community awards.

     

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    A Picture says more than 1000 Words
    Best Aidman
    Best Avatar
    Best Bulldog Explorer
    Best Captain
    Best Collaboration
    Best Custom Content Creator Thread
    Best Dirktator
    Best Instructions in Gameplay/Strategies
    Best Picture Post in a "Show us your ..." Thread
    Best Pun or Freudian Slip
    Best Roleplaying Comment
    Best Short Answer
    Best Tutorial
    Best Tutoring on a Custom Content Project
    BTW Trixie
    Cheer You Up Trixie
    In Memoriam
    Masters Of Ceremony
    Most Consistently Helpful Member
    Most Consistently Helpful Staff Member
    Most Creative But Impossible to Solve Request
    Most Friendly Member
    Most Funny "Look what happened to me" Picture Post
    Most Humorous Member
    Most Informed Member on Real World Events
    Most Knotty City or Network Layout Kept on Picture
    Most Promising Announcement Fulfilled
    Most Promising Announcement Unfulfilled
    Most Sensitive Major
    Most Valuable Information Collection
    Most Welcoming Member
    Primus Inter Pares Trixie
    Saddest City Builder Moment Caught on Picture
    Simtrop Walking Library
    The Member Who Was Everywhere
    The Simtropolis Triple Crown
    We Miss You; Come Back

    TOTAL: 38

     

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  • List of Previously Used Categories

    Here's a list of awards previously offered in the default lists of categories.

    They're grouped by Custom Content, City Journals and Community, and listed in alphabetical order:

     

    Previous Custom Content Awards

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    BAT Newcomer of the Year
    BAT of the Year
    Best Automata
    Best Behind-the-Scenes BAT Support
    Best Industrial Bat of the Year
    Best Lotter
    Best New SC4 Mapper
    Best Post-War BAT
    Best Pre-War BAT
    Best Prop Maker
    Best Re-creation
    Favourite BAT team
    Highest Overall Quality in Custom Content
    Highest Technical Achievement in Custom Creations
    Modd of the Year
    Most Anticipated BAT
    Most Creative Map
    Most Dedicated Modder
    Most Dedicated to Acknowledging his Team Members
    Most Important Modding Discovery
    Most Improved BATer
    Most Likely to Become an Architect in Real Life
    Most Luminous Illuminator
    Most Useful Creation
    Most Useful Feedback in Custom Content Threads
    Most Valuable Modder
    Quickest Quality BATer
    SC4 Map Guru
    STEX Community Favourite

     

    Previous City Journal Awards

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    Awe Inspiring SC4 City
    Best Attention To Detail in an SC4 CJ
    Best Custom Lotting in a SC4 CJ
    Best Grimy SC4 City
    Best Historical CJ
    Best Newspaper in a SC4 CJ
    Best Oldschool CJ
    Best Park and Recreational Area in a SC4 CJ
    Best Public Transport in a SC4 CJ
    Best Roadgeek SC4 City Journal
    Best Rural SC4 CJ
    Best SC4 City Journal
    Best SC4 City Planner
    Best Science Fiction SC4 CJ
    Best Story in a SC4 CJ
    Best Suburbs in an SC4 CJ
    Best Tropical SC4 Journal
    Best Use of Added Media in an SC4 CJ
    Best Use of Custom Content in an SC4 CJ
    Best Use of Nature in an SC4 CJ
    Best Work in Progress CJ
    Most Aesthetically Pleasing SC4 City
    Most Entertaining SC4 City Journal
    Most Eye Catching and Original SC4 CJ Title
    Most Miraculous SC4 Mosaic
    Most Realistic SC4 City Journal
    Unique SC4 Region

     

    Previous Community Awards

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    Best Sports League
    Chat Insomniac Award
    Enduring Dedication Award
    Friendliest Chatter
    Friendliest Forumer
    Funniest Overall Member
    Helpful Forumer
    Highest Quality Poster
    Merit of Team Spirit
    Most Active Non-City Builder
    Most Engaging Off-Topic
    Most Entertaining Avatar
    Most Improving Member
    Most Useful Tutorial
    Most Valuable CXL Contributor
    Most Welcoming to Newcomers
    Outstanding "Show me your..." Contribution
    SC4 Technical Denizen
    Staff Eye Within the Storm
    We Miss You; Come Back

     

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    I have ideas for City Journal Trixies, these can be applied to both Cities: Skylines and SC4:

    Best Use of Custom Content in a CJ.

    Most aesthetically pleasing CJ.

    Best city layout in a CJ.

    Best CBD in a CJ.

    Best industry in a CJ.

    Best agriculture in a CJ.

    Best landscapes in a CJ.

    Best suburbs in a CJ.

    Best grunge in a CJ.

    Best slums in a CJ.

    Best foreign landscapes in a CJ.

    Best MMP use in a CJ.

    Best RHW/NAM in a CJ.

    Best seaports in a CJ.

    Best airports in a CJ.

    Best parks in a CJ.

    Best detail in a CJ.

    etc...

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    For me, quite often, the problem isn't to have an opinion to post, but to cut down the post to a size people will read - so to choose what is redundant, what is essential.

    So the task given in this thread in my opinion can be answered systematically by making a structure tree going from the general genre over to subcategories and from them to the trixies by thinking of what are elements (and practical operators to separate them).

    The general genres are given by the sites sections: Custom Content (STEX), City Journals (City Journals), Community (Forums). To me this seems logical as the trixies are related to Simtropolis.

    Just on this, I have an initial question. Should the trixies being equally distributed on the general genres? Means: 20 trixies for CC, 20 for CJ, 20 for community? What can be the operator (or arguments) on this - the argument to say, we need more for this genre and less to that genre? Me, f.e., I would say, I have to take into account, where the most action is. If the most action is on the CJs, to me it seems to be an argument to say, there should be more trixies to them. But you could turn this argument easily into its opposite and say: we want to promote content creation, so we put most of the trixies there.

    That would be - to me - the very first question. It's more a planning question, not a content question. 

    BUT on the same level there is a second thing - as everyone can see on the starting page there is a second axis or topolical hierarchy forming the site - and that are the games the site is dedicated to.

    And to make a step from general genre to subcategories - from this two axis or topolical organisations a question arises for me with three possibilities. I need to be clear of before I can continue.

    1. Should all trixies be separated for the different games (regarding all 3 genres)

    2. Should all trixies be common to all games (regarding all 3 genres)

    3. Should there be a mix of trixies that are common for all game and trixies that are only for one games section (regarding all 3 genres).

    And from this:

    Should there be trixies for all 4 games there are communities on this site or only for 3 or only for 2?

    And from this:

    Should the trixies being evenly distributed on the games too? If there are 20 trixies for SC4 should there be also 20 trixies for Cities:Skylines and SC2013 etc. and 20 that are for the overall/general competition?

    So these are the questions I personlly think, moderators could help me about first - like putting me and my thoughts on some track I can follow.

    Just to get an idear - to see the map, the playground on which I can roll-out my suggestions. The borders. As - f.e. -  I do hundreds of suggestion for SC2013 trixies and those aren't even wanted and I'd better concentrate on other fields.

     

    On operators, basically those can be data and meanings. Data would be = most clicked, most downloaded, most etc. Meanings would be = most usefull, most sexy, most worth think about, most confusing.

    I think the trixies are more about - what content means to us? Right? Like @Ln X suggestions above.

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    Agree with Ln X on pretty much all categories. The only one I'm sorta iffy on is the foreign landscapes one - I believe I'd be the only person even eligible for that award in 2016 if I'm understanding it correctly. (making scenes across multiple cultures/locales). Perhaps breaking it down instead into Best Asian themed CJ/Best Euro themed CJ/Best American themed CJ/Best Landscapes in a CJ would make more sense and get more people involved as well.

    I'd also hope that some of the bigger ones such as most Awe-inspiring CJ, most realistic CJ, and of course Best CJ will make a return as well.

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    2 hours ago, NMUSpidey said:

    How about a Best Spidey Avatar Trixie?

    More in general, what about a 'best current avatar'? I say current because it would be a mess to look for past images.

    17 minutes ago, JP Schriefer said:

    A part of the forums that is overlooked during the Trixies I think is the 'Show us ur...' threads. There are some amazing works there, I just don't know how to find a way to nominee members there, I'll think about it. :)

    I really like the idea, but certainly it needs some thinking on the nomination method, and if it deserves separate categories.

    ***

    And some suggestions, too:

    • Hidden treasure trixie: best custom content with less than 500 downloads.
    • Best dev thread, considering activity, richness of content, projects' efficiency (i.e. completion rate), quality of discussion, etc.
    • Best dependency: most useful, overall quality, flexibility of uses (only content intended as dependencies)
    • Archeology trixie: best use of custom content from the past decade (2003-2009).
      • Museum curator trixie: best custom content reuse of custom content from the past decade.
    • Primus inter pares trixie: most helpful non-staff forumer.
    • BTW trixie: best off-topic discussion on a thread (prize to all involved forumers).
    • Best roleplaying comment.
    • Explorator trixie: best recreation done by a forumer that lives in a different continent to the recreated place or object.

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    While I understand that people want more and more Trixies to be given out, I think going too niche will make two things occur:

    • It will dramatically reduce competition within categories.
      • Going too niche could limit from 10+ members down to just a handful, and then we must ask, is that really fair?
      • Surely the greater the competition the greater the reward?
      • I think while @Ln X's list is fairly wide ranging, most of the categories are too niche for my liking.
    • It could allow members to win more Trixies by deceiving the system and 'entering' into many more categories than would be fair.
      • These awards need to be fair, and by limiting competition, user domination is more likely.
        • This surely cannot be good for the community?

    Therefore, based on these thoughts I'd propose the following categories for all Trixies:

    • Forum Trixies
      • Most Helpful Forum member
      • Most Welcoming Forum member
      • Most Informed Forum Member
        • This one would be for the Current Affairs thread.
        • The member who makes the most justified points, the member who gets people to question their own views and justifications.
      • Most Helpful Staff member
    • City Journaler Trixies
      • Best Visual City Journal
        • Not only would this one encompass Photoshopping and so forth but also CJs also heavily dependent on MMPs.
      • Best Functional City Journal
        • This one is about building and presenting a CJ that not only looks great but works as well.
      • Best Asian City Journal
      • Best European City Journal
      • Best Urban City Journal
      • Best Rural City Journal
      • Best SC4 City Journal
      • Best CS City Journal
      • Best Overall City Journal
    • STEX/Custom Content Trixies
      • Best Custom BAT
      • Best Custom Lot Pack
      • Best Custom Lot
      • Best Map
      • Best Tool/Mod
        • Things like the DLL fix or GoFSH or so forth.
      • Best Re-lot
      • Best Dependency

    While this list may seem small I think it will provide competition in areas and increase the fun of the whole event! :party: 

     

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    I agree with Mike, having a smaller number of awards would mean higher competition and better quality. If there are too many awards, we might be handing out one per member soon. *:rofl:

    Seriously though, I still think that its best to give two awards for CSL and SC4 for the same category e.g. Best Asian City Journal (one for CSL and one for SC4). They are entirely different games like music having different genre.

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    Even if I agree on the basic consideration from @_Michael, there's another thing I'm thinking about. In my opinion at the moment there are two significant communities active on this site that are quite different. One is long time grown and old and the same are social structures. The other one is quite young and growing and not that homogeneous. If I'm right, most C:S players new to this site won't even know what the trixies are. My concerns are, that the process from nominating members up to the final decisions could be accompanied very different by each community. Also the games are different. I don't know much about C:S so I'm not shure if a contest between rural scenes in C:S and rural scenes in SC4 - just f.e. - would really make sense.

    Or if it wouldn't be wise to think of first what are the categories that are game specific. Maybe 'rural scenes' is good category for sc4, but C:S has other categories that might fit the game better - best flood? Don't know.

    That was I talking about. To start with a more general 'drawers' first to sort the idears for the trixies in.

    For CJs for example - just for example - making this drawers first:

    Technical quality - artistic quality - presentation. Now to take for example the suggestions of @Ln X and sort them in this drawers. Which trixies regard more technical talents (use of mmps, photoshop) what is for artistic quality (creativity). Doing so it's much easier to recognize if the trixies are evenly distributed on certain aspects or also if they really fit all games.

    If you don't think first, what are the main aspects of doing a CJ and making up your own 'main drawers' you might end up frustrating a part of the people, those more technicans and those more creators, because you didn't distribute the trixies well on those abilities. Maybe that's what I try to say: you have to think of the abilities first you want the trixies have for.

    That's why I think the right way lays something in between Ln X and _Michael.

    As there should also be Trixies not so brutally serious. If I remember right there was a Trixie for 'most chaotic CJ"

    And in my opinion the trixies themselves can reflect the creativity of this site and what is specific on the artistry done here. And that's where I agree with @Ln X. If you have a competition between different artists you can make a trixie 'best artwork'. But if you have a competition between musicians the same trixie is much to unspecific. Shure you would go for different categories in music. The same to make a prize amongst novellist 'best drama' doesn't make sense.

    So on 'best rural scene' f.e. - one had to think first, which abilities of the competitors is requested here. And are the abilities different from 'best industrial scene'. If the requested abilities of the competitors are the same - well - how does the trixie differ then? Is it really only the subject or theme of a CJ we want to have as category?

     

    [Edit]

    That's the same reason why to me the trixie 'best avatar' don't make sense. I can't see an ability connected with SimTrop/city builders here.

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    50 minutes ago, _Michael said:

    While I understand that people want more and more Trixies to be given out, I think going too niche will make two things occur:

    • It will dramatically reduce competition within categories.
      • Going too niche could limit from 10+ members down to just a handful, and then we must ask, is that really fair?
      • Surely the greater the competition the greater the reward?
      • I think while @Ln X's list is fairly wide ranging, most of the categories are too niche for my liking.
    • It could allow members to win more Trixies by deceiving the system and 'entering' into many more categories than would be fair.
      • These awards need to be fair, and by limiting competition, user domination is more likely.
        • This surely cannot be good for the community?

    Strongly disagree with that, several years ago there were Trixie nominations in many of the categories I mentioned. Besides there at least several Simtropolis members who have produced high quality in nearly ALL of the areas I mentioned; especially from 2015 to 2016. I will admit that "the best grunge" category is probably redundant, while the "foreign landscapes" is probably applicable to one member and we know who that person is.

    But a lot of high quality CJ's have entries which specialise in various areas: industry, parks, residential, airports, countryside, MMPs... So the Trixie awards I mentioned are for the sole purpose of giving a nod to CJers who have done special projects within a city tile in one or more of these areas (which I mentioned). The seven SC4 CJ Trixies you highlighted DO NOT do justice to the variety I have seen in 2015-2016.

    These numerous categories will help members go through CJs and to spot something special; keep some of the generic SC4 CJ Trixie awards you mentioned but for the love of God there needs to be more specialisation.

    There is another reason for the categories I listed, it will help to further distinguish the highlights from SC4 and Cities: Skylines. Members can compare scenes from different games to see the difference between the "best of" from both games.

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    @Ln X

    You're point on variety is exactly what I'm saying. And you've made my point for me in terms of quantity. 

    Trixies are special, and by allowing them to be given to every CJ imaginable it destroys the value of them and the work hat people put into their work. Generic categories will allow all City Journals to compete and for the best to win. That's surly the point? If you have have 'best grunge', then I can only think of a maximum of 2 or three CJs from the past few years that would be worthy of a Trixie in the category. That means they'd have a 33% chance of winning a Trixie. Surely that destroys the value of them?

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    @Ln X IMO, the list you have is quite excessive either. A Trixie isn't something you give because one image looks good. Every CJ has its own unique style and player specializes in many fields as I have seen like some players are more into transport systems rather industrial or mmps. But giving them every award for each is kinda missing the point. A good CJ is not composed of one good industrial area or one nice highway system. A good CJ is a combination of all those things and that's the challenge for players - to create a CJ that encompass all the fields you have mentioned. Awarding players in different categories such as Asian CJ, European CJ, American CJ, etc is understandable since every city encompass all the fields you mentioned but are built on different styles. 

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    2 minutes ago, jmsepe said:

    to create a CJ that encompass all the fields you have mentioned. Awarding players in different categories such as Asian CJ, European CJ, American CJ, etc is understandable since every city encompass all the fields you mentioned but are built on different styles. 

    But are you shure you want to give the trixies for special talents on creating not for being addicted to a country? What's the special ability in making an Asian CJ vs, an American CJ? Aren't the artistic abilities exact the same? So you give trixies for countries?

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    Just now, Fantozzi said:

    But are you shure you want to give the trixies for special talents on creating not for being addicted to a country? What's the special ability in making an Asian CJ vs, an American CJ? Aren't the artistic abilities exact the same? So you give trixies for countries?

    They are not the same. While the categories mentioned by Ln X are a very small part of one city or just one image, the Asian, American or European genre is about the whole city. The infrastructure , the building choice the layout and design. CJs that execute the above  well are Trixie worthy, not one that has a nice grudge image. 

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    Just now, Fantozzi said:

    But are you shure you want to give the trixies for special talents on creating not for being addicted to a country? What's the special ability in making an Asian CJ vs, an American CJ? Aren't the artistic abilities exact the same? So you give trixies for countries?

    They are not referring to countries. An Asian City is vastly different from European City and the mods used in them are different as well. Both can have good airport, industrial areas, residential areas, transport system and what not but the implementation is different. If you look at Greg's Asianess and Ln X's works, you can see that while both cities are trying to build good CJs that encompass all the elements of a good city (the things I mention above) but the way the city are constructed isn't the same. 

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    Maybe I'll agree to that argumentation if there's a 'best felline CJ' and 'best marsian CJ' and best 'african CJ' and ... well if you make shure, not to exclude too many people from the trixies as not having too much categories was for having a stronger competion, if I understood @_Michael right.

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    23 minutes ago, _Michael said:

    @Ln X

    You're point on variety is exactly what I'm saying. And you've made my point for me in terms of quantity. 

    Trixies are special, and by allowing them to be given to every CJ imaginable it destroys the value of them and the work hat people put into their work. Generic categories will allow all City Journals to compete and for the best to win. That's surly the point? If you have have 'best grunge', then I can only think of a maximum of 2 or three CJs from the past few years that would be worthy of a Trixie in the category. That means they'd have a 33% chance of winning a Trixie. Surely that destroys the value of them?

    As I said these categories are not designed to be given to every CJ imaginable. There will be the seven or so generic categories you mentioned and people will be voting for those, but what I am saying is to have those generic categories AND most of the categories listed.

    Now in terms of Trixie contenders I think the list is about maybe a hundred, perhaps a 150 members, who have contributed outstanding CJ content in the 2015-2016 period. This is NOT about giving Trixies to every CJ imaginable! In the past Trixies have been given which were specialized categories and there were only several people nominated because they displayed the best quality in that particular category.

    The whole purpose of CJs is to show great images of SC4, even if that means the CJ author takes pictures from small areas of the map which are highly detailed and form a complete scene. I'm thinking elavery and korver have done this approach.

    What matters are the images, the categories I've mentioned are designed to highlight the diversity of the modded SC4, to show what can be done in a highly specialized way. It is to acknowledge differentiation and specialization in CJ entries. The generic entries you mentioned will not show all the areas members have specialized in, again with each category I mentioned there have been several members who have produced outstanding work which has inspired the community or delivered much wow! factor.

    The generic SC4 CJ Trixies will take everything into consideration, but the Trixie categories I mentioned will highlight CJs who specialized in areas which are not covered by the generic SC4 CJ Trixies you have proposed, yet the images are outstanding and are classics which have inspired many members and highlighted the full range of possibilities and creations possible in SC4.

    By having the categories I propose it will help members focus their searches for CJs and pictures which said members believe to be outstanding. It will take advantage of both the tags system and also the titles of CJ entries. I assure you the categories I mentioned will highlight the full extent of the CJ quality in the 2015-2016 period, it will not diminish the value or worth of the Trixie.

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    19 minutes ago, Fantozzi said:

    Maybe I'll agree to that argumentation if there's a 'best felline CJ' and 'best marsian CJ' and best 'african CJ' and ... well if you make shure, not to exclude too many people from the trixies as not having too much categories was for having a stronger competion, if I understood @_Michael right.

    Okay, maybe an analogy would help you. Think of the Grammy awards. Each music has its own genre. Yes they are all music but they all have different genre. Also, each song normally has an intro, verse, chorus etc. If you think about it, CJs are like that as well. Each CJ has its own strength and weakness. Asian CJs, European CJs, African CJ, American CJs are all just CJs having different genre. But each CJ is composed of residential areas, commercial areas, industrial areas, they all have transport network too and pretty much everything that seen in a city. You award best pop music and best jazz music but certainly you don't award best chorus or best verse. If you agree with my arguments, then fine but choosing out how many genre we award is different story and is another topic to debate. The argument at hand is why I believe Ln X's list is excessive.

    EDIT:

    @Ln X If one image matters so much then why not nominate it for aesthetically pleasing. I still don't see why we have to award every field you mention like suburbs, airports, seaports, transports and such. Aren't those the elements that actually makes a CJ a worthy of a Trixie?

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    7 minutes ago, jmsepe said:

    Think of the Grammy awards. Each music has its own genre.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grammy_Award_categories

    This didn't help me on your argument. Still they devide in 'Albums' and 'Performances' and 'Song'. They do more as @Ln X suggested. They even have a category for best cd box, wich isn't much related to music itself.

     

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    Couldn't a bundle of CJs be called CJ Album? *:rofl: Song is for the songwriter and performance is for the artist. Sadly, it's not like every CJ has a CJwriter and CJartist but we do have Trixie for the Best Story in a CJ before.

    This would be last reply to this as I don't want to flood this thread with topic. Perhaps other members have insight as well. I will simply summarize my points as to not go overboard. Main argument is that I don't think it is necessary to have all the awards that Ln X listed. By that statement I mean, the suburbs, industrial, seaport and airport, etc.. My reasoning is that it is redundant to the awards we are giving like best CJ and such. CJs are supposed to be awarded as a package of awe inspiring city elements not a cherry pick of which part of the CJ is good. A good CJ will be good in totality and not just in parts. Also, having a lot of categories will only make Trixies less valuable. Take a look at the declining of numbers of nominations from 2012 to 2014. 

    Well, there is certainly no harm in having multiple CJ subcategories in the Trixie. It has been quite a long time that Simtropolis had Trixies. In the long run, perhaps just perhaps those suggestions could be added but as long as there is no certainty that there will be enough nominations for them then I guess, it shouldn't cut in. I have seen the list of nominations given to those awards before and I could verify that some categories only received one or two.

    EDIT: I was also reminded, we actually have Simtropolis challenge for those that deals with CJ subcategories like best transport, best industrial and best CBD. I think that should be a good place where these type of things are given attention and award. After all winning in those challenges is kinda like equivalent to winning a Trixie. In fact, it even has its own dedicated Hall of Fame album which Trixie winners don't have.

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  • Thanks all for the input and ideas so far! :thumb:

    In terms of the number of default categories there will be, I think it helps to strike a balance between a wide and narrow selection. Too many and it may well lose the sense of prestige. But on the other hand, too little and there'd be a similar issue to the previous Trixies with lack of choice. That's what we're trying to get right this time, and is precisely why we've opened this topic to the community. Some great suggestions already from everyone who's posted so far.

    To give an insight of previous options, I've listed awards available for past Trixies in the post above.  (The current ideas lists will appear above this)

    Do we think any of these should be used this time? :???:   (I see a few similarities have already been mentioned)

    Of course, by having a wide range, it doesn't necessarily mean all of them would be given as awards -- that depends on which are used for nominations. In fact, there have been quite a number of awards not given out for this very reason. I believe the idea behind having a large list was to encompass all varieties of content & contributions, which fluctuate between years. That way, each is an individual in their genre and can be judged in its own right. But for awards such as "Best BAT" or "Best CJ", in theory all files or journals posted in the window are eligible to win. The problem here is far from all will receive nominations, and only one will claim the title. There are so many candidates, and each is unique and special in its own right.

    So that considered, only a smaller selection of the ST population can potentially compete for these more general awards. These would be the ones which have captured the community's attention, or stand out above and beyond for a particular reason. "To be crowned best of the best; you'd have to beat the rest!"

    But what about the rest? Wouldn't it be fair for a wider-ranging audience to receive a Trixie? These are people who may have stood out in a particular genre. For example, there are many BATs, but what about RCI? Also the same for CJs, with multiple variations and styles of presentation. Also maps, mods, automata, and even props & textures... the list goes on. These may otherwise not be recognised with just broad categories. It is true that especially with the more niche awards, they have been decided by as low as a single nomination or individual author. Not that this is a bad thing, because to receive any nomination, it is a token of appreciation for one of your contributions. With the new 3 nominations per author rule, hopefully that will allow more people who've contributed in multiple areas to be rewarded. That's the idea anyway.


    Again, it's all about finding the right balance. With contributions so diverse, I think it would be great to reward those who stand out overall, in addition to those who specialise in particular fields. We all have our own talents and skill sets, and use them in many different ways.

    Let's keep discussing and sharing ideas! :D

    And don't worry about thinking of too many ideas; the purpose at this stage is to come up with as many as possible. So keep them coming, whatever they may be. Then once accumulated, they can be cut down to a more manageable sample, depending on how they all compare relative to each other, and how they will fit into the broader categories.

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    Silentium! Now this is Major Fantozzi(*) speaking.

    Major Fantozzi not making prisoners. No negozziation wizth Sims. Sims obey or home is bulldozed.

    And you - you making zizth Trixie for CJ or you big sorry:

     

    Best Nursed CJ

    Best Narration

    Best CJ Development

    Best Presentation of Content (pictures and text) or Best Overall Design

     

    Best Graphical Artwork in CJ

    Best Real World Recreation

    Best Fictional CJ

    Best City Planning

     

    Most Shattering Environment in a CJ

    Best Landscape Gardening

    Most pictoral Country Life

    Most Dieselpunk Looking CJ

    Most Desastrous CJ

     

    and

    Most despotic Major (Major Fantozzi loves this)

     

    (*) Major Fantozzi is not the same person as Fantozzi, you know. Fantozzi becomes Major Fantozzi only when he had an overdose of SC4. 

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