Additional Public Transit

[Jerenable 266]

Are elevated metro stations gonna be a thing?

[Tim The Terrible 586]

21 hours ago, andreharv said:

 

What are those dark metal plates for? And what are they??  

[andreharv 1,197]

@JerenableEventually, yes.

@Tim The TerribleThey are dark metal plates ...IRL they are used to deter people from venturing to the third rail...Otherwise I would have to program in animations of them cooking every time they decide kill themselves and I just don't have time.

 

[Tim The Terrible 586]

48 minutes ago, andreharv said:

They are dark metal plates ...IRL they are used to deter people from venturing to the third rail...Otherwise I would have to program in animations of them cooking every time they decide kill themselves and I just don't have time.

Thanks for the explaination, really nice that you included that! They should remove them and let natural selection do it's job  

[Distanced 114]

@andreharv I absolutely love the track models! Quick question: what subway is going to be included in the first release? I'm assuming something along the lines of a European metro as seen in the pictures.

[wasmic 111]

The train will be the Helsinki metro trains, as stated on a thread on reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines a long time ago, although Russian and Japanese trains have also been made by asset authors and should be ready for release just after the mod itself.

Why are the track styles categorised as US and European? Clean concrete isn't very European. Paris and London have a lot of old, gritty, steel-constructed elevated railway, while Berlin has both that and brick viaducts. I've also seen plenty of pictures of clean concrete elevated railways from the US.

IMO, it would be more accurate to call it Traditional and Modern instead.

[ancellim 8]

So, here's the trains that have been created so far:

Helsinki Metro Train by bsquiklehausen:

 

Moscow Subway Train by Alex_BY:

 

Tokyo Metro Trains by JSF-01

 + many other trains from JSF-01

[andreharv 1,197]

@wasmic: To be clear, the US Euro categorization is not really the official name (I haven't come up with one yet). Think of them as 'Codename US' and 'Codename Euro'.  US/Euro contrast was just my inspiration to create two versions in the first place.  The US version will be for those who want to emulate gritty NYC or Chicago systems.  TBH, the 'Euro' version started out being an emulation of cleaner and greener European cities but in the end was actually based more on Asian systems than European, though the name just stuck (for now).  Toward release, I will formally name the styles, most likely 'Concrete' and 'Steel'...I may consider your suggestion as well.

@ancellim: I see we are in good hands.  Very exciting.  I gotta hurry up and get this done so I can play!

[Distanced 114]

@ancellim Awesome! Can't wait for this to be implemented! 

[Tim The Terrible 586]

1 hour ago, andreharv said:

I may consider your suggestion as well.

I suggest like you say: NYC/Chicago (US), Dirty & Old (EU), Concrete & New (Worldwide & Asia). I say worldwide because anyone can build new metro systems, and Asia because they seem to have the newest metro systems, but you get the point  

And I love the look of that Moscow Metro!  

[R3V0 909]

Since I've used up maximum image limit in my account, here's the final renderings of the 2 way metro - train modular transfer station:

https://imgur.com/a/HZsHW#CX2ciAq

 

 

[Theramond 0]

I'd love it if London Undergound (1) (2) vehicles ported.

[Distanced 114]

@R3V0 Jesus, that's an amazing model! Hope that you'll release it for the mod!

[R3V0 909]

3 hours ago, TransitAuthority said:

@R3V0 Jesus, that's an amazing model! Hope that you'll release it for the mod!

If i can boot up the game, sure. Each time I select the model, game simply crashes in asset editor. 

Update: I disabled all assets and it works fine. However, I wanted to use some flowers and other assets seems, it's not gonna work. (Or I have to enable them indivially during the creation.)

Since I dont have tracks, here's how it looks so far: (Just booted CS, picked default train station and that's it):

TO-DO:

Find a way to 'sink' underground tunnels (seems ground 'passes' through them) 

Find a way to move the asset around tracks, since i can build tracks anwhere but within tiles

 

 

[Distanced 114]

@R3V0 That's awesome! If you need help, I'd ask @BadPeanut. He's an expert when it comes to train stations. Hell, he's even making a station upon my request! Quite an awesome guy.

[Acc3ssViolation 81]

Release sometime this or next week? The hype metro has left the station!
As for metro trains, I also have this Amsterdam M5 pretty much ready, just not as a metro yet.

On a side note, what are good values for passenger counts on a 6 car metro like this? In real life it's 900, but that seems a bit high for the game.
 

[Tim The Terrible 586]

@Acc3ssViolation I would just keep it 900, ideal for busy lines (yes they exist). Lowering it means you leave Cims at the station and keeping it 900 means everyone on a minor station can get on: everyone happy  

@R3V0You can make the tunnels visible by using the Clip Ground tool, you can find it in the Ground Textures Tab (Concrete, Gravel etc.)

You can move and stretch the tracks by using this script. Find the segment ID using Mod Tools, and edit the x, y, z values (play with each to find out what happens)  

// specify the id of the segment you want to edit (search with the other script)
var segmentId = 4927;
            
// specifies how the start and end point of the segment are modified
// x, y, z in meters (the second parameter is the height)
var moveStart = new Vector3(0, 0, 0);
var moveEnd = new Vector3(0, 0, 0);

// Here you can change the network type (e.g. from ground train track to elevated train track)
var changeNetTypeTo = "Rail1LStation";

// --- end of editable variables ---
var mgr = NetManager.instance;
if (mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_flags == NetSegment.Flags.None) 
{
    Debug.Log("Invalid Segment ID (see first line of script)!");
}
Debug.Log("Modifying segment " + segmentId + " (Type: " + mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].Info.name + ")...");

mgr.MoveNode(mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_startNode, mgr.m_nodes.m_buffer[mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_startNode].m_position + moveStart);
mgr.MoveNode(mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_endNode, mgr.m_nodes.m_buffer[mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_endNode].m_position + moveEnd);

Debug.Log("Segment start/end points modified!");

var netInfo = PrefabCollection<NetInfo>.FindLoaded(changeNetTypeTo);
if (netInfo != null)
{
    ushort newNetTypeId = (ushort)netInfo.m_prefabDataIndex;
    mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_infoIndex = newNetTypeId;
    Debug.Log("Net type changed to " + changeNetTypeTo + "!");
}
else
{
    Debug.Log(changeNetTypeTo + " is not a valid net type! skipping net type changing...");
}

Credits to @boformer

 

[Bad Peanut 826]

22 minutes ago, Tim The Terrible said:

@Acc3ssViolation I would just keep it 900, ideal for busy lines (yes they exist). Lowering it means you leave Cims at the station and keeping it 900 means everyone on a minor station can get on: everyone happy  

@R3V0You can make the tunnels visible by using the Clip Ground tool, you can find it in the Ground Textures Tab (Concrete, Gravel etc.)

You can move and stretch the tracks by using this script. Find the segment ID using Mod Tools, and edit the x, y, z values (play with each to find out what happens)  

// specify the id of the segment you want to edit (search with the other script)
var segmentId = 4927;
            
// specifies how the start and end point of the segment are modified
// x, y, z in meters (the second parameter is the height)
var moveStart = new Vector3(0, 0, 0);
var moveEnd = new Vector3(0, 0, 0);

// Here you can change the network type (e.g. from ground train track to elevated train track)
var changeNetTypeTo = "Rail1LStation";

// --- end of editable variables ---
var mgr = NetManager.instance;
if (mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_flags == NetSegment.Flags.None) 
{
    Debug.Log("Invalid Segment ID (see first line of script)!");
}
Debug.Log("Modifying segment " + segmentId + " (Type: " + mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].Info.name + ")...");

mgr.MoveNode(mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_startNode, mgr.m_nodes.m_buffer[mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_startNode].m_position + moveStart);
mgr.MoveNode(mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_endNode, mgr.m_nodes.m_buffer[mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_endNode].m_position + moveEnd);

Debug.Log("Segment start/end points modified!");

var netInfo = PrefabCollection<NetInfo>.FindLoaded(changeNetTypeTo);
if (netInfo != null)
{
    ushort newNetTypeId = (ushort)netInfo.m_prefabDataIndex;
    mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_infoIndex = newNetTypeId;
    Debug.Log("Net type changed to " + changeNetTypeTo + "!");
}
else
{
    Debug.Log(changeNetTypeTo + " is not a valid net type! skipping net type changing...");
}

Credits to @boformer

 

don't stretch station tracks beyond the default length! when i originally uploaded modern central I had stretched them, but they created issues in a very small but nonetheless definite way. when i reverted back to the original length, it resolved the problems

[R3V0 909]

1 hour ago, Bad Peanut said:

don't stretch station tracks beyond the default length! when i originally uploaded modern central I had stretched them, but they created issues in a very small but nonetheless definite way. when i reverted back to the original length, it resolved the problems

Can't move the station though ? I know 2 way tracks take 16m of width, they're not properly aligned with the station itself. What I'm doing right now, is remodeling the station around thise idea. (Scaled blender to 8x8m, made some cubes immitating tracks and realigning the station in blender, not in-game). It takes time and I need rexture everything. 

Also, as a part modular transfer station, the second peron is 8m width. Which means, it's gonna take half of 2 tiles, leaving end-tile half occupied. I'm wondering, if extensions can fill that half filled tile, while anarchy is on ? (So extension peron will use half of the tile + 2 way track (2tiles) + other side of peron (1/2tile)

It probably doesn't make sense, here's the photo: each square on the grid is 8m:

 

 
Thanks for the help regardless, much appreciated 

[Bad Peanut 826]

10 minutes ago, R3V0 said:

Can't move the station though ? I know 2 way tracks take 16m of width, they're not properly aligned with the station itself. What I'm doing right now, is remodeling the station around thise idea. (Scaled blender to 8x8m, made some cubes immitating tracks and realigning the station in blender, not in-game). It takes time and I need rexture everything. 

Also, as a part modular transfer station, the second peron is 8m width. Which means, it's gonna take half of 2 tiles, leaving end-tile half occupied. I'm wondering, if extensions can fill that half filled tile, while anarchy is on ? (So extension peron will use half of the tile + 2 way track (2tiles) + other side of peron (1/2tile)

It probably doesn't make sense, here's the photo: each square on the grid is 8m:

 

 
Thanks for the help regardless, much appreciated 

you can change the position of the station track, just don't change it's default length and width (16m is correct as width i forget the length - i think it's 144) if you want modularity you'll need to have the module being at least 2 cells wide, if you're achieving it via the same means as my modular stations...

[R3V0 909]

6 minutes ago, Bad Peanut said:

you can change the position of the station track, just don't change it's default length and width (16m is correct as width i forget the length - i think it's 144) if you want modularity you'll need to have the module being at least 2 cells wide, if you're achieving it via the same means as my modular stations...

1. Any idea how to change position of the track ? (Dumb question I know)

2. 2 cells, understood. So no 1/2 cell from sides and 1 center cell for one way track then. 

[Bad Peanut 826]

Just now, R3V0 said:

1. Any idea how to change position of the track ? (Dumb question I know)

2. 2 cells, understood. So no 1/2 cell from sides and 1 center cell for one way track then. 

use the code supplied above:

1 hour ago, Tim The Terrible said:

@Acc3ssViolation I would just keep it 900, ideal for busy lines (yes they exist). Lowering it means you leave Cims at the station and keeping it 900 means everyone on a minor station can get on: everyone happy  

@R3V0You can make the tunnels visible by using the Clip Ground tool, you can find it in the Ground Textures Tab (Concrete, Gravel etc.)

You can move and stretch the tracks by using this script. Find the segment ID using Mod Tools, and edit the x, y, z values (play with each to find out what happens)  

// specify the id of the segment you want to edit (search with the other script)
var segmentId = 4927;
            
// specifies how the start and end point of the segment are modified
// x, y, z in meters (the second parameter is the height)
var moveStart = new Vector3(0, 0, 0);
var moveEnd = new Vector3(0, 0, 0);

// Here you can change the network type (e.g. from ground train track to elevated train track)
var changeNetTypeTo = "Rail1LStation";

// --- end of editable variables ---
var mgr = NetManager.instance;
if (mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_flags == NetSegment.Flags.None) 
{
    Debug.Log("Invalid Segment ID (see first line of script)!");
}
Debug.Log("Modifying segment " + segmentId + " (Type: " + mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].Info.name + ")...");

mgr.MoveNode(mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_startNode, mgr.m_nodes.m_buffer[mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_startNode].m_position + moveStart);
mgr.MoveNode(mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_endNode, mgr.m_nodes.m_buffer[mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_endNode].m_position + moveEnd);

Debug.Log("Segment start/end points modified!");

var netInfo = PrefabCollection<NetInfo>.FindLoaded(changeNetTypeTo);
if (netInfo != null)
{
    ushort newNetTypeId = (ushort)netInfo.m_prefabDataIndex;
    mgr.m_segments.m_buffer[segmentId].m_infoIndex = newNetTypeId;
    Debug.Log("Net type changed to " + changeNetTypeTo + "!");
}
else
{
    Debug.Log(changeNetTypeTo + " is not a valid net type! skipping net type changing...");
}

Credits to @boformer

 

where it says

var moveStart = new Vector3(0, 0, 0);
var moveEnd = new Vector3(0, 0, 0);

 

change the 0s to + or - whatever measurement you need. the top line (movestart) is one end of the segment - the node

the bottom line )moveend) is the other end of the segment, you'll need to change both nodes to keep the track the same length

[R3V0 909]

@Tim the Terrible, @Bad Peanut, @andreharv

First and foremost thank you all (and all others) for their help. I can say, i think, that I've finished the ground metro station and waiting final station tracks for metro. 

(There are issues with the asset editor, however I mentioned them in my thread in order to keep this one clean). So here are some shots: 

 

[Tim The Terrible 586]

@R3V0 From what I can see on the screenshots you didn't place the tracks correctly. You should place one small segment (max 10 cells long) and use the script to make it longer. If you do it correctly, you should not end up with 4 catenarys and a crossing at both ends.

EDIT: I just realized these aren't the final tracks, but I just want to make sure you get it right  

[Distanced 114]

@R3V0 Oh my, it's absolutely stunning! I love the modern look of the building, and it just looks great overall! I would make the textures a bit more high res, but other than that - it's great! 

 

EDIT: Here's some textures I found that you could use:

Here's a roof texture

Here's a pretty good concrete platform texture

  Edited September 9, 2016 by TransitAuthority  
Duplicate textures

[R3V0 909]

21 minutes ago, Tim The Terrible said:

@R3V0 From what I can see on the screenshots you didn't place the tracks correctly. You should place one small segment (max 10 cells long) and use the script to make it longer. If you do it correctly, you should not end up with 4 catenarys and a crossing at both ends.

EDIT: I just realized these aren't the final tracks, but I just want to make sure you get it right  

How to find segment though ? Couldn't locate it in the list in scener explorer *sad face followed by head slam to the desk*

17 minutes ago, TransitAuthority said:

@R3V0 Oh my, it's absolutely stunning! I love the modern look of the building, and it just looks great overall! I would make the textures a bit more high res, but other than that - it's great! 

 

Texture is peasantry 1024 this time, I actually used nice pavement texture but of course it doesn't show up. I'll swap concrete with pavements see how it goes. Roof is supposed to be all white-ish

[Distanced 114]

@R3V0 Oh, okay!  I thought that maybe you just couldn't find a roof texture. No worries!

[R3V0 909]

4 minutes ago, TransitAuthority said:

@R3V0 Oh, okay!  I thought that maybe you just couldn't find a roof texture. No worries!

I'll will use them on something else though... oh yes... I will *flashing of more station designs*

Need to release a proper asset first LOL

[Distanced 114]

@R3V0 TRUE!  

[Tim The Terrible 586]

Guy, we should stop talking about R3V0's staion in this thread and continue in the dedicated thread. Might be nice to delete some of your comments about the station that are not relevant to this thread. Let's keep it clean and organized   (Once that's done I'll remove this comment too)