nybt-forum-threads NYBT BAT Thread

[SimHoTToDDy 2,938]

I petition that you requisition moderation to purge the above mishap.

[Hanson784 165]

Great work Vlasky! One of my favorite diners in NYC.

I made the Empire Diner when I first started BATing years ago. I'll put it in my downloads section to save you the trouble of BATting it unless you want to practice BATing.

Flatiron is coming along slowly but surely. Not much progress to show, still looks pretty similar to when I first showed it.

(Thanks for taking inventory on who still active in the team BTW)

[Vlasky 1,803]

Oh, good. If it isn't too much bother, please show us picture of Empire Diner here. Looking forward to seeing it.

No problem, but I must repeat> Everyone who wants to bat NY buildings, modd for NYBT is welcome here and in BAT Team. Also, If any member forgot to PM me, and is still active, but isn't on the list, feel free to PM me so I can update the list. I don't wanna left out anyone.

[Parisian 549]

Hey Vlasky.

I would be honored to be part of the NY team. I ve realised the Bank Of America Building in Bryant Park but i was unable to create a nightmod for it so I ve sent the gmax scene file to Hanson to fix the nightlighting and some other stuffs.

Thanks to him, we will be able to integrate this new NYC landmark in our cities

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

So that mean we have a new member?????

[Vlasky 1,803]

Yes this means we have a new member! Welcome aboard PARISIAN ! Just don't forget to send file to GWAIL first so he can modd it, and add custom NYBT Query! I'm adding you to my signature too. ! YEEEE! Evryone invited to WELCOME 2 NYBT PARISIAN PARTY!

I've seen your One Bryant park and it's amazing! We're honored to have you among us!

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Welcome to the team Parisian.

[sten1700 102]

Yeee! The bank of america tower! I can't waitt!!

[Jumpthefence 74]

Alright, I survived the international waters! Don't look so surprised...

...Then again, them dolphins are vicious!

Francesco or "Francis":

Another thing, i believe that the models do have a very definite rundown feeling.This isn't a bad thing, but the real buildings seems to be quite well-kept. Right now i believe that your models do have too much a "dirty" feeling.

Well, it's a difficult balance. Some people like run-down buildings, some don't. I can't please everyone, so I please everyone I can (plus, I like run-down buildings more. I don't know why).

Todd:

 As for the new buildings, you picked them for their details, now bring out those details so that the can be noticed. See how much better 99 looks with those nice noticable ornaments around the windows? Also, it looks like their cornices were stripped off for some absurd reson, stick a generic one up there just so that they don't look like boxes (or not, depending on how it looks in comparison with the others)

1. Since I can't really scale the ornaments out (they're prettymuch flat with the wall), I scaled them up 150% or so, although it varied based on specifics. Referring to the picture below, the part to the left of the red line is the former ornaments and the part to the right is the revised. And while we're at it, I made new window textures, air conditioners, graffiti and vintage, or "nostalgic" advertisements.

2. For cornices, I'm going with "not", because there aren't actually any cornices. That's the biggest problem with the building. I could put one up that isn't too elaborate and blends in, if there's a good reason to mess with the truth. 

And welcome to the new members, jackreid, Parisian, and Feindbold (more or less), I look forward collaborating!

Also, thanks to Vlasky for taking inventory on current NYBT members.

I think that's all.

Y'all have a good week. I mean it.

[SimHoTToDDy 2,938]

Oh, I know there isn't anything there now (I was looking at it before I wrote that), the point was, it looks like they had one, and it was removed (for whatever crazy reason). If it works without it, then so be it, but you would have to see how it looks along side the other ones you have already made. Out of curiosity, why exactly can't you scale them out (I'm talking .1m tops), I think it would make much more of a difference then scaling them up because it will introduce a shadow, which defines the details better.

Your brick "texture" looks great, no complaints there, however I don't like how pink it is coming out. Hue looks good, but try bumping up the contrast (this will make it seem a little darker and a little more saturated, but that is what it needs IMO. I could not get it to look as good with just saturation/lightness). Depending on how gmax treats you, it should look more like brick and less like brick painted pale pink. This will also help differentiate the brick form the limestone details on the facade (you may also try making them a tad whiter, but be careful).

This goes for all your colored brick textures (I am excluding the white one, that looks great. I might add a subtle blue overlay to get rid of the yellow cast on it, but it looks good for gmax), some run the risk of looking like concrete.

You really make me want to model a brownstone, if only I could finish up my half dozen other projects

[Francis90b 748]

Well, trying to please everyone is a good choice, but you're making a re-creation here.In short my position is that given how the existing building does appear you should be as faithful as possible...but i think i'm not the right persion to give you sugggestions on this field.

About run-down buildings in general...well, i like them, and i like to mix'em with "better looking" buildings.So i'm not against "rundown appearence" but i care about realism the most.

EDIT: oh, and Francis is the english version of my name (Francesco in italian, Francis in english)

[BoxCarRacer 1]

Love the personality you show in your posts JTF

I like the BATs, I tend to lean towards the clean building side, but if you can do the run-down feeling right it will look good as well. It's worked for you in the past so no reason why it shouldn't now, unless you've stopped taking your BAT roids.

[Parisian 549]

Thanks to you all to integrate me in your team. I m a very passionate person for the NY buildings.

I ve an idea for my next building (I m still learning to BAT).

[Parisian 549]

Nothing is happening in that forum since few days

[GuerrilaWarfare 39]

you guys haven't posted anything in 3 days, i'm scared

[Vlasky 1,803]

Ladies and gentlemen, I have announcement to make:

we are happy to welcome jackreid to the NYBT. He'll be posting progress as soon as his RL obligations loosen up. So...

JACKREID WELCOME TO NYBT !!!

[Parisian 549]

Ohhh a newcomer friend. Welcome Jackreid!!!

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Welcome to the team Jackreid.

[Parisian 549]

what the hell going on the NYBT, there is as much activity on this as in a cemtery! Anyway, Hanson, how is the Bank of America?

[GuerrilaWarfare 39]

i second what Parisian said.

[SimHoTToDDy 2,938]

Welcome to the pace of a normal BAT thread.

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Heres another building I have made its in Brooklyn I have render it in HD, I know everyone is saying want you get the buildings I have started finish, I Know im trying. On this small apartment im thinking about making at lest 3 types as you can see on the google map picture. I need some help on the roof can someone show my a 3d image of the roof of theses small apartments, im going to give a link to theses small apartments, another thing is I need help on naming theses apartment so if someone come up with a really good name I will make it that name.

Link to google maps- Click

[GuerrilaWarfare 39]

listen Aaron, are you listening ... you better becuase, i love you XD ! lol

[SimHoTToDDy 2,938]

Here they are in Bing maps. Has a nice street view of them too.

Its a nice pick. Pay special attention to the nitty gritty details and you should have a lovely little rowhouse.

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

SimHoTToDDy- Thankyou, Im having a hard time with texturing in HD they come out a little different than SD, and one thing I still am not good at texturing like you veterans.

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Why HD at all? IMO, HD makes sense for small objects that wouldn't be visible otherwise - traffic signs, for example - but not for buildings and any normal lot props.

Tech stuff aside, this looks like a very nice choice for a BAT! Why not call them "Graham Apartments"?

[jacqulina 162]

great work here

[Spike345 20]

wow! those look interesting!!

[Parisian 549]

hey guys, this looks fantastic! good work Aaron!

by my side, I ve made the 575 Fifth Avenue (the one that everybody see on midtown pics, but nobody know its name). I will post it pics as soon as I can!

[Jumpthefence 74]

Yeah, why aren't members of the team posting more!?

Oh yeah, I have answers to that... projects, homework, spring cleaning, trumpet, and Thursday comedies... Speaking of which...

But anyways...

Todd:

1. How's that for a cornice? I only added one cornice, because it only looks like there was only one at any point in time. Although if the right building deserves one as well, so be it. Subsequently, I don't think I'll include cornices in the final upload. Although I don't always agree with Francis on accuracy, this is a case where accuracy should probably be taken into account. There isn't a cornice now, I'm not great at making them, I'll leave it at that.

2. I scaled the ornaments out until [most of them] were at .1 meters. I might have missed a few, just warning ya. It doesn't look like it did much, but I'll leave that up for discussion.

3. I added about 20% contrast (Although that might be on the basis of 120% for Gimp, in which case it would be 16.66%) to the brick texture. More? Too much? I don't have an acquired eye for brick textures.

4. Brownstones? If you say so.

5. iPzkpfw? Strange acronym, awesome tank. By the way, what's with the recent influx of people with avatars resembling iPod ads around here? Coincidence? Or is there some government reimbursement? Or some other reason? I've essentially been offline for a week and a half.

Aaron Graham: Pretty good start with that building, I'll have to see more updates before I can add real input. All I think I can say at this point is that the center mullion on the door (I think it's called a lock rail) looks a little high. It looks like it should be in line with the window's center mullion. But that's all, great start!

Parisian: 575 Fifth Avenue... (googles it) Oh, yeah, that one! That should be a fine addition to the game; a simple boxy building to fill in downtowns is always welcome!

On a side note, I'm running a small side project right now with gmax. Does anyone know a way to export with it or where I can get Gmax Render Suite nowadays? I searched for hours, and I got nothin'. I suppose I could download the free 3dsMax trial, but I don't have a .edu email. Ideas?

Sorry for posting so much text without breaking it with a smiley or two... how's this to make it up?

Okay, have a great weekend everyone! Think happy thoughts!