RCI-Mod 1.2

The mod looks like a cool venture, and thank you for doing this! here are my thoughts, concerns and questions.

I haven't had any experience with this mod, but by the looks of it, it seems like it would greatly increase the need for both I and C buildings. A lot of people liked the 25/25/50 ratio from SC4, and wanted to see that put into SC13, but I'm not sure that's entirely necessary, and obviosuly, that's nto the goal of this mod (though a summary glance makes it look like that it would increase the numbers somewhere around there). I can see the need for this mod, and I appreciate that, but I'm just not sure on the nubmer balance is all. My biggest concern about this mod then, is that. Is it going to skew the proportions too much between residential, industrial and commerce? Have you used this on any cities to try and assess what those ratios are? Maybe we can see a SS of some the zoning layouts you had to use to make this happen?

Other random questions:
- Will this affect the RCI indicators on the main UI, or will we only notice the difference in the "details" tab?
- There seems like there will be an excess of freight ... so will it actually fill up (or over-fill) tradports and such?
- Why change hotel rooms? Do the rooms consume freight, or are we messing with tourism now too?

Looks good bro! I'd love to see/hear how it tested

The mod looks like a cool venture, and thank you for doing this! here are my thoughts, concerns and questions.

I haven't had any experience with this mod, but by the looks of it, it seems like it would greatly increase the need for both I and C buildings. A lot of people liked the 25/25/50 ratio from SC4, and wanted to see that put into SC13, but I'm not sure that's entirely necessary, and obviosuly, that's nto the goal of this mod (though a summary glance makes it look like that it would increase the numbers somewhere around there). I can see the need for this mod, and I appreciate that, but I'm just not sure on the nubmer balance is all. My biggest concern about this mod then, is that. Is it going to skew the proportions too much between residential, industrial and commerce? Have you used this on any cities to try and assess what those ratios are? Maybe we can see a SS of some the zoning layouts you had to use to make this happen?

Other random questions:
- Will this affect the RCI indicators on the main UI, or will we only notice the difference in the "details" tab?
- There seems like there will be an excess of freight ... so will it actually fill up (or over-fill) tradports and such?
- Why change hotel rooms? Do the rooms consume freight, or are we messing with tourism now too?

Looks good bro! I'd love to see/hear how it tested

First, sorry for my bad English, it's not my native language. But I will try my best to answer your questions.  :)

 

"It seems like it would greatly increase the need for both I and C buildings".

If you zone C and I zone on a large area, then yes it would increase their needs. Just zone C and I on a small area while keep tracking on detail tab of your population. Note that if you zone commercial near culture area like casinos and landmarks, it would probably grow into hotels. If you want your commercial zone to grow into shops and skycraper offices, zone them near your residential. If there is an excess of commercial goods, it's simple.. buldoze one or two building, and delete some of your C zone. Industrial zone need workers to operate, and places to shipping their freights (Commercial zone, trade depot/port, and DLC Dr.Vu Tower) while commercial zone need workers, shoppers, tourists, and freights. I reduce the number of workers on H.Density C and I building purposely to deal with unfilled jobs and traffic problem at rush hours. Original number of workers on LD/MD/HD High-Tech Industrial is 11/46/520, now only 32/64/256. Less workers mean less traffic, but that just my opinion..

There is probably an issue with high unemployment/unemployment crisis in your city. But with this mod, the key is residential zone and it's up to you whether to

expand or reduce them.

 

"Is it going to skew the proportions too much between residential, industrial, and commerce?"

I hope not. R zone now play an important role than C and I zone.

 

"Have you used this on any cities to try and assess what those ratios are?"

Yes, I have tried this mod on different city/region.. It's still difficult to assess the ratio, coz I always specialized every city. On my hybrid academy-tourist

city, the R/C/I ratio probably 20/3/2.

 

"Will this affect the RCI indicators on the main UI, or will we only notice the difference in the "details" tab?"

In my experience, both of main UI and detail tab.

 

"There seems like there will be an excess of freight ... so will it actually fill up (or over-fill) tradports and such?"

If there an excess of freights, and you don't want to zoning more C, just place a trade depot/port with freight storage and it will fill-up.

 

"Why change hotel rooms? Do the rooms consume freight, or are we messing with tourism now too?"

Because tourists always flooding my city and complaining about "no room to stay for the night, leaving town.." and also, to save space.

Yes, hotels consume freights too.

Rooms are doubled so does the traffic nearby.

 

There is an issue about commercial complaining about not enough freight even there an excess, I think it's a bug, it happened even without using this mod.

hi

it's not working for me or i'm not doing it right :)

i have no other rci mods, i've copied it as instructed, claimed new region, play couple of seconds, saved, exit simcity, enter simcity, load saved game. the figures are the same.

pls help, i'm kind of frustrated over how little freight industry produces.

thank you for sharing your work

Sorry if I missed something here I mean no offence. I just read this quick and a thought plop in to my head.

 

How is this mod different from 

 

http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/29902-new-rci-11more-workersshoppers-and-freights/
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/29897-low-mid-and-high-tech-industrial-freight-11-does-anyone-need-more-freight/

 

?

Sorry if I missed something here I mean no offence. I just read this quick and a thought plop in to my head.

 

How is this mod different from 

 

http://community.sim...s-and-freights/
http://community.sim...d-more-freight/

 

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It's basically almost the same prop files extracted from SimCity-Scripts_287520926.package into .package files with Oppie's SimCityPak and compile them with s3pe. If you take a closer look into the .package file (mine and his) with SimCityPak, the values inside are pretty much different. From his description it looks like Nikolaa modify the freight output values from LD/MD/HD factory to 600/1020/2000 and doubled the workers requirement from -for example- 11/46/520 to 22/92/1040 while I changed the freights values to 640/1440/3200 and change the workers req to 32/64/256 (ratio: 1/2/8), much less workers to deal with traffic jam. Tax income value are different too, I make RES pay doubled, COM pay 10x, and IND PAY 20x to make a balance with the new RCI ratio. I noticed that the goods and hotel rooms are doubled/same value.

Thanks you for that information. Could be something to add to your description perhaps? one last question "and compile them with s3pe" you did what now?

Thanks you for that information. Could be something to add to your description perhaps? one last question "and compile them with s3pe" you did what now?

S3PE is a Sims 3 Package Editor used by Sims 3 modders, but its recent version now support SimCity as well. I used it to compile/grouped all modified prop files into single .package file. (see screenshot)

 

Thanks you for that information. Could be something to add to your description perhaps? one last question "and compile them with s3pe" you did what now?

S3PE is a Sims 3 Package Editor used by Sims 3 modders, but its recent version now support SimCity as well. I used it to compile/grouped all modified prop files into single .package file.

 

That's what I thought you meant, you don't have todo that. Just select all the files you which to include in one .package file -> right-click - export to package or (advanced export)

 

like this 

Saying SimCity is supported is to over do it, you might get the hopes up for the new modder out there hehe ;) "In addition, the file format version number number must be 2 for Sims3™ (or 3 for SimCity5™, which is barely supported)." http://s3pi.sourceforge.net/

Yes, I kind of over do it, sorry for that. s3pe is not supported for editing prop values inside SimCity .package, SimCityPak does. I only use it for managing SimCity files. And somehow, it worked (see ScreenShots).

It works perfectly after following the instructions. However the taxes are too much and city income is easily 30K and more. Not so realistic or challenging...so I'm going back.

It works perfectly after following the instructions. However the taxes are too much and city income is easily 30K and more. Not so realistic or challenging...so I'm going back.

Thak you windoze for your feedback :) . Is it only taxes or are there anything else?

I will release another variant if there is lot of reviewer feedback about taxation.

Nice Work ^_^

I just registered to say thank you for this mod.

 

I agree with the taxes "problem". I like x2 taxes on R, makes sense, but C & I are imbalanced. You increased C goods (LDx4, MDx4, HDx2), so I think C taxes should be x4 or x5 instead of x10, and you increased I taxes to x20, but the freight is something like x10-13 now, so taxes should be x10 or x12 for a better balance.

 

Also, maybe you should increase the number of tokens for a density upgrade on C to match the increased goods.

 

Thanks again, and sorry for my English.

Hello,Thank for this mod .but in my opinion you should balance the shoppers and workers because it's always show me that not enought shoppers and worker at the same time(Hope this help)

 

Version 1.1

 

Previous version with some fix :

1. Fixed tax income. Previuos version was too much... ( New version : RES x1.5 , COM x4 , IND x15 ) .

 

2. Zones growth rate is increased twice.

One more time, thank you!

 

Your mod is a must, I almost give up on the game because of the broken RCI system.

 

I also think more tweaks are necessary to fix the imbalances of the game. For example, a 4x4 MD-MW R building giving only 20 workers... that is a waste of space until you can reach HD (200 workers). You need to spam MW R zones everywhere to gain just a few workers (only 2 for LD), because you have a lot of open jobs, then, when they reach MD, you are just gaining 12 workers per building, because 4 LD (8 workers) = 1 MD (20 workers). The same thing happens with HW. Bad design.

MW and HW MD R buildings should give at least x2 workers, shoppers and students.

 

It is a shame to need mods to fix a game.

I apologize in advance if it is asked (I do not know English very well).

Question:  There have on the site mod, which increases the population of the mega-towers. It will interfere with this mod? Or are they edit different resource files?

P.S. I'm not good at modding SimCity. Until I disabled the mod for mega towers, but would like to know all the same whether they are in conflict?

P.P.S. I mean this is the mod "Mega Tower with Realistic Population (MTRP) 1.3".

 

I apologize in advance if it is asked (I do not know English very well).

Question:  There have on the site mod, which increases the population of the mega-towers. It will interfere with this mod? Or are they edit different resource files?

P.S. I'm not good at modding SimCity. Until I disabled the mod for mega towers, but would like to know all the same whether they are in conflict?

P.P.S. I mean this is the mod "Mega Tower with Realistic Population (MTRP) 1.3".

 

I modified files from basic game, and MegaTower is part of CoT Exp,Pack. So it should be ok.

By need for the help of someone good to start my English is very bad then used the google translator, When using the RCI-Mod it works not entitled to lower class is always unemployed and do not know what else to do if you can help me thank you very much at the time so I RCI-Mod installed with no other also want to know if these MOD only works on the original game.

When using the RCI-Mod it works not entitled to lower class is always unemployed and do not know what else to do if you can help me thank you very much at the time so I RCI-Mod installed with no other also want to know if these MOD only works on the original game.

This mod alter RCI ratio and reduce workers a lot, so you have to demolish some of your low-wealth residential buildings when you reach high-density. Or you can choose another solution by creating jobs, for example adding office level for low wealth on your MegaTower (if you have CoT) , specialized-city, or zoning more industrial zone (beware of huge ammount of freights, you have to build trade depot/port with plenty of freight storages) .i hope that help, and if you have opinions related to rci, feel free to give me feedback so that i can improve it for the next release. RCI-Mod works for both original and CoT expansion.

Good Papa-Bear was here thinking of a subject this game is all weird because if a city has 120,000 inhabitants because they are 10 or 15 thousand workers are the others do not know it would be that all workers but at least 50 or 60 000 would who is working what you guys think about that.

sugestion :  fix the population with the real population mod. 

it is good and useful mod, but unplayable now cos it totally unbalanced.

in 1st min of game i have -380 expenses and +50.000 profit and it breaks money game mechanics, no more interest to play with it.

But when i opened it in SCP, i see only numbers in id fields.

tell me please how you have found parameters which you changed?