REV0's Train Stuff

[R3V0 909]

Can any subscriber to Grand Central confirm that the mod is functional ? It works fine on my end but I'm receiving negative feedbacks of either mod gives warnings or freezes on the main menu. 

Any confirmation is appreciated, thank you 

[R3V0 909]

Stadler KISS - SBB Variant

*2K Resolution

*6 Cars version

*Line Colored

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=795073166

[Distanced 114]

It's beautiful! Looks really sleek and clean! Are you going to be making the GO version anytime soon? I'd love to have it! 

btw, you can use the vehicle effects mod for exhaust, ditch lights, more lights, control car lights, etc if you want that kind of thing.

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3 hours ago, TransitAuthority said:

It's beautiful! Looks really sleek and clean! Are you going to be making the GO version anytime soon? I'd love to have it! 

btw, you can use the vehicle effects mod for exhaust, ditch lights, more lights, control car lights, etc if you want that kind of thing.

Yup GO is next. Not sure to go with 2048^2 texture or reduce both poly and texture count though, any opinion is appreciated

[Distanced 114]

Go with the 2048 texture, and don't reduce anything. The model is already great as it is!

[R3V0 909]

Hmm... Wonder what would that be... Couldn't find its name, I'm sure it's somewhere north though. 

 

 

[Distanced 114]

I'd recognize this anywhere - it's UNION STATION! It looks great so far! I really appreciate it Revo!  If you need any opinions or help with it, just let me know!

[R3V0 909]

Hmmm... A bit scared here. 

Already hit 5k Triss and I did only front section. 

 Granted, I didnt merge vertices yet, assuming, after the merge, I will have approx. 3k, I suppose. What do you think lads ? 

PS: Edges are one section, it's light on vertices.

[Distanced 114]

Looks awesome! If you want to minimize tris, maybe you can try making the arch a little less "round." 

[Judazzz 1,936]

This is gonna be so awesome!
What is the tris count per block? It looks like it's going to be massive, so I think that should give you room to splurge in some area's

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6 hours ago, Judazzz said:

This is gonna be so awesome!
What is the tris count per block? It looks like it's going to be massive, so I think that should give you room to splurge in some area's

FTM, Each wing has approx 90*14 tris + edges. I'm gonna remove some vertices after the merging of entire model though. The great hall (center) is the one which is heavy in vertices, since I modelled interior facade as well (between columns and the building) I'm thinking a different way to model that section so passenger movement to platforms will be simulated  (at least their entrance to the building through the underground passage right under there). Otherwise facade would be useless since camera will not zoom and look above in interior of buildings properly.

@TransitAuthority Do you know what happened to statues on the front ? Seems they were statues before but they were removed later on the images. A question of curiosity, I'm actually happy that there are no statues to model lol 

[Distanced 114]

Hmm. I'm not entirely sure, but I believe that they were taken away after renovations on the main building started, to save them from being damaged. Either that, they just didn't want them anymore, or they were removed due to defacing.

 

[R3V0 909]

Today's menu:

- Side arches, front section of east and west wings: 

 

[Distanced 114]

Jesus, it's so good!  Again, I would suggest that to reduce the amount of polygons you could make the arches a little less "round." 

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1 minute ago, TransitAuthority said:

Jesus, it's so good!  Again, I would suggest that to reduce the amount of polygons you could make the arches a little less "round." 

You mean the facade, or the the entrances ? 

[Distanced 114]

The side arches that you've shown in the pictures.

[R3V0 909]

Menu du jour: 

- Side sections, back section, grand hall, tweaks and more tweaks.

Tweaking columns individually so it can respect the actual building is time consuming. Also tried to reduced some polygons on side arcs, but not happy with the result, so decided to keep as it is. It will be a vertice hell when it's finished so who cares 30 less vertices lol. 

PS: Want to be constantly updated or should I stop spamming ? 

PPS: I need more info about south section (platform side of the main building) any data is appreciated, especially it's exterior. I see 6 semi arches on google earth, is it correct ? I have literally no photos from top or at least that side of the building .

 

[Acc3ssViolation 81]

I don't mind the updates, keep 'em coming.

[Distanced 114]

Oh, updates are fine! It's nice to see what progress you've made! I'll try and get some data for you, but Google Images seems really sparse on pictures of the exterior of Union Station. I'll get back to you!

[Distanced 114]

Aright, so I don't got much, but I'll tell you what I know. You're talking about this part of the station, right?

So from what I remember, there are a total of 23 platforms; 11 island platforms, and 1 side platform. (Reminder: this station is ginormous.) I only remember single tracks near the platform. I can't tell you much else, since I haven't been to Toronto in 3 years. Wikipedia has a great page about Union Station, I'm sure you'll find all the info you may need over there!

[R3V0 909]

I'm specifically talking about this section, which is the south section of head house. 

I see that in 1920, they built the viaduct to elevate train tracks. You see a set of 6 arches on the building, I can model them according to 1920 imagery (below), the problem is they no longer exist in current plans. I simply don't have any resource to determine where to put those arches: 

a) In 1920, they should be touching the ground level of train tracks (3rd set of windows from above)

b) In 2016, according to revitalization project , ground part was cut off, and filled with concrete or they build a chamber around arches. Only the center piece is kept, as you can see in second image. 

c) On google earth, i see that only central arch is kept, other were cut off, and the central piece was extended towards to platform, and a glass roof was added. 

I couldn't find any images about that side, the best I have is the photo from 1920 taken on a youtube presenation of engineering plan. 

So I don't know how to proceed from there, I will have to improvise and something between 1920 - 2016 plans, which I don't want to do it, since everything was on scale and correct replication so far. 

[Distanced 114]

I don't really know. Can you circle the arches on the screenshot for clarification?

[R3V0 909]

13 minutes ago, TransitAuthority said:

I don't really know. Can you circle the arches on the screenshot for clarification?

 

[Distanced 114]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Okay. During the revitalization, they basically reworked the whole building. I'd keep just that one arch, since the others were likely removed.

 

[R3V0 909]

Progress Update: 

- South wing rooftop is done

- Platforms ground work is done

- Atrium roof is done

Remaining:

- Skywalk, platform underground connections, platform roofs, underpasses located at each side of the station, moatcovers.

Currently sits at scarry rate of 25K. Probably my own 780ti will struggle when it's finished, but hey who cares. I used real clearance measurements so I HOPE CS will accept 3.4m train track clerance instead 4, otherwise my life will become a nightmare (Which is already since I have insomnia lol) All platforms will work, so it will give whooping 14 working platforms. 

Which brings us to the point, that it will be too big for asset editor. I need to scratch my head about this. 

[Distanced 114]

You have insomnia? I'm really sorry for you, I can't imagine how horrible it must be.  But great work, it looks fantastic! Now that I see that one lonely arch, I think that it won't hurt to put another one on either side of the existing one (if you can.) It just seems a bit off with just one there.

Btw, I'm on a craptop with no GPU. Oh well  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As for the large size of the model itself, you should probably use sub-buildings enabler. You could split the main station into three, as well as the platforms!

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22 hours ago, TransitAuthority said:

You have insomnia? I'm really sorry for you, I can't imagine how horrible it must be.  But great work, it looks fantastic! Now that I see that one lonely arch, I think that it won't hurt to put another one on either side of the existing one (if you can.) It just seems a bit off with just one there.

Btw, I'm on a craptop with no GPU. Oh well  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

As for the large size of the model itself, you should probably use sub-buildings enabler. You could split the main station into three, as well as the platforms!

I had studies starting late evening, so in 5 years I've become basically a bat, staying up late until morning and sleep during the day. Now it's completely inverse, I have to be up at 4AM and stay awake until the midnight, which doesn't work of course, now I can't sleep anymore, it's funny as it sounds but painful. 

Anyway back to topic, it seems they razed other archs according to the new plan. They actually extended great hall to the first platform so they only kept one central arch, with no open top. 

Now I'm working on atrium and platform tops, i think I am going to keep things "less respectful to the actual building, because I hit 30K triss, if I'm gonna add correct number of support structures in platforms

[Distanced 114]

Oh, okay - that's what I thought. They never really needed the arches anyway.

Hope to see more updates soon!

[R3V0 909]

Progress update: 

I worked on details today, finished front archs and fixed the platform rooftop. 

I have one constraint however; skywalk. I am not sure to model it or only the station itself. The real version has 2 underpasses on each side of the station. If I'm gonna model the skywalk (more vertices), I need to find a way how to sink roads in asset editor aka terraforming. Because skywalk will be 9m lower than the station, so I need to lower the ground on both sides to do so. 

Asset editor, AFAIK doesn't do that. 

[Ronyx69 2,413]

Does move it work in asset editor? Maybe that can lower it.