Attercap Buildings

[Attercap 123]

I'm glad you like my buildings. It's a motivating thanking !

  Edited October 30, 2015 by Attercap  

[Matthias King 348]

You're welcome. I just found your new Madison Building. I'll be trying to get that one to grow somewhere right away.

[Attercap 123]

Two new bats !

The Baltazar Building :

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=545142171

 

The Madison Building. It's a high density level two. But definitely a bit too small. Maybe a high density level 1 ? Or a low density level 3 ? What do you think ?

The Madison is an old building : the file is heavy. So,take care !

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=544771242

[Darf 1,439]

It's a bit too tall for a low density building and it's not a building I'd expect in a suburb. High density starts at 5 stories and considering the ornaments I think lvl 2 is fine as it is.
Besides you need some variation in heights. Both are lovely.

 

I'd uv up the outer column in line with the column bases off the centercolumns, looks a bit sudden now.

  Edited October 31, 2015 by Darf  

[Judazzz 1,936]

Lovely buildings once again, Attercap!
I think L2 HC is just fine for the Madison: it's definitely too big for low density, and pretty much in line with many of the lower level high density growables (HR and HC) Feindbold has in his Workshop.

[Attercap 123]

Thanks ! Ok for the Madison. I will keep it in lvl 2 HD Commercial.

Darf, I wont transform the main facade. It has been to long and difficult to create the building. Never again Maybe just desaturate a bit. 

[Attercap 123]

Hi everyone,

Has someone a picture of a building which could be a commercial level 3 ? (1850-1950 if possible.) Just to have some additionnal ideas. thanks !

[Judazzz 1,936]

Hi everyone,

Has someone a picture of a building which could be a commercial level 3 ? (1850-1950 if possible.) Just to have some additionnal ideas. thanks !

Take your pick  
And here's another good resource for inspiration: http://daytoninmanhattan.blogspot.nl/.

On a more useful note, I'd love to see more classic red brick architecure, similar to this, this, this, or (less bricky) this. Doesn't have to be corner buildings, btw.
 

[Darf 1,439]

I've already done the Puck building.  But it's red plaster. Here is some you could pick from:

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/SOH/SOH.htm This site has some good compilations and background on buildings.

http://www.businessinsider.com/demolished-new-york-buildings-2014-9?op=1&IR=T This is a list of buildings that have been demolished.

Or just go to google maps and look for the area around broadway. There's tons of gems there.

  Edited November 1, 2015 by Darf  

[GC_Vos 714]

Wow that list of demolished buildings is amazing! Why people so crazy to destroy architecture like that?

[Attercap 123]

Wow that list of demolished buildings is amazing! Why people so crazy to destroy architecture like that?

They did'nt care about these buildings. Historical preservation of buildings in the US is a bit specific : in Europe, common heritage is more important than the private property. It's not true in the US, which has a different history. If you own the building, you can do more or less what you want with it - at least if you compare with a french historic building ! There are also more confidents about "the march of progress." It encourages demolitions.

But these buildings have been destroyed many years ago. Historical preservation in the US begans during the sixties, with the demolition of the Pennsylvania Train Station, NY. You can read Jane Jacobs if you are interested  

  Edited November 1, 2015 by Attercap  

[Darf 1,439]

Don't make the first one on that first list BTW. 

[Attercap 123]

You are doing the Vanderbilt Mansion ?

[Darf 1,439]

No, the other list.

  Edited November 1, 2015 by Darf  

[Attercap 123]

So the Little Singer building or the Odd Fellows' Hall... mmm. Make both !

What do you think about the Broadway Chambers Building ? I'm in love since a while.

[Darf 1,439]

Yeah it's gorgeous, would be pretty doable in terms of texture and polygoncount.

[gfvsims 169]

Wow that list of demolished buildings is amazing! Why people so crazy to destroy architecture like that?

Sad, isn't it? Makes me really upset when I read about historical buildings being demolished.

[Attercap 123]

Wow that list of demolished buildings is amazing! Why people so crazy to destroy architecture like that?

Sad, isn't it? Makes me really upset when I read about historical buildings being demolished.

Mentality can change with time, but they wont if people dont care. What are you doing to save these buildings ? Associations are, by far, the BEST way to save some buildings. You - a citizen - can do a lot of things. Politics are just politics... but if people want to preserve historic buildings, politics will follow. (or you are in a banana republic like my beautiful country, France).

  Edited November 2, 2015 by Attercap  

[Judazzz 1,936]

So the Little Singer building or the Odd Fellows' Hall... mmm. Make both !

What do you think about the Broadway Chambers Building ? I'm in love since a while.

Broadway Chambers would be awesome, it's a peach of a building indeed!
Besides that, it pretty much embodies quintessential American turn-of-the-century non-skyscraping highrise architecture (virtually every American town with an historic downtown core has buildings like this), so with some variation in height and textures you could easily (well, relatively speaking - as a non-modeler I would never say your hard work is easy ) create a whole set of these buildings.
And lastly, there can never be enough Cass Gilbert buildings in C:SL!

  Edited November 2, 2015 by Judazzz  

[Attercap 123]

The Broadway Chambers is a "non-skyscraping-highrise architecture" ? What do you need ? the building was build between 1899 and 1900, it's not a real prototypal skyscraper. Beaux-Arts buildings are skyscrapers.

[Judazzz 1,936]

The Broadway Chambers is a "non-skyscraping-highrise architecture" ? What do you need ? the building was build between 1899 and 1900, it's not a real prototypal skyscraper. Beaux-Arts buildings are skyscrapers.

Mmm.... could have worded that better, I see
What I meant is that the Broadway Chambers is a typical high-rise building as they were built all over the US at the turn of the century - should have called it achetypal for this type of building instead of prototypical, as the actual prototypical skyscrapers are located in Chicago. But according to present-day definitions the building doesn't qualify to be labeled as a skyscraper any more, which is why I labeled it a non-skyscraping high-rise building 

Anyways, what I really tried to say: the Broadway Chambers can be used a base/template for a whole range of similar buildings with slight variations in textures, color, height, etc., as you see buildings like it in historic downtown districts all over the US.

  Edited November 2, 2015 by Judazzz  

[Attercap 123]

Oh, yes, your are right. They are archetypal buildings, for sure.

I'm not sure we could standardize the production of these big buildings. They also have to look different ; color and height caracteristics are probably not enough. Change the rythm or the height of the windows, you change the building a lot more than if you change the color only. But by doing this you have to recreate a big part of your  diffuse map, and your whole model. I have a craftsman spirit, obviously. I'm not again the idea. I wont do it, personnally.

We have time, in fact.

  Edited November 2, 2015 by Attercap  

[Judazzz 1,936]

Oh, yes, your are right. They are archetypal buildings, for sure.

I'm not sure we could standardize the production of these big buildings. They also have to look different ; color and height caracteristics are probably not enough. Change the rythm or the height of the windows, you change the building a lot more than if you change the color only. But by doing this you have to recreate a big part of your  diffuse map, and your whole model. I have a craftsman spirit, obviously. I'm not again the idea. I wont do it, personnally.

We have time, in fact.

You have craftsman spirit (as well as skills), I wouldn't even be able to model a cube if my life depended on it. So all I can contribute to this part of the forum (apart from being in a constant state of awe of the fantastic stuff you modders come up with) is blurting out stuff occasionally in the hope that it might be help- or useful to some
Anyways, I think we're drifting off-topic...

[Attercap 123]

It's my topic. I do what I want.

If you have a global view of what modders are doing and what is missing, if you propose buildings, if you give advices, it's helpfull.

[Cool_Z 1,547]

It's my topic. I do what I want.

If you have a global view of what modders are doing and what is missing, if you propose buildings, if you give advices, it's helpfull.

100% with you, builders build, but players use what they do so they have the right to participate 

 

Without players using our stuff, the purpose of building would be lost (for the most, unless you only build for yourself).

[Matthias King 348]

I have some suggestions, if that's ok.

This isn't really up your alley, but I'd like to see someone make a realistic Costco.

The other thing I'd like to see are motels. Not hotels, but motels. There are hotels trickling into the workshop, but I'm not seeing any motels. I'd like to see decent ones, as well as the cheap and seedy 'no-tell motel' type.

I'd also like to see some 3x3, 3x4, and 4x4 wall-to-wall buildings. Your buildings are some of the best coming out of the workshop, so naturally I always want to see more.

There are other things I'd like to see, but those are off the top of my head.

[Attercap 123]

You want a Cotsco : a supermarket .... or a Cotsco Supermarket ? About the supermarket and the motel, you are right, its not my cup of thea. Someone will probably do these buildings. Be patient. They are essential componants of the daily american landscape, i guess (even if i'm never been in america, south, central or north.)

I wont do these buildings myself, I'm working on older buildings. maybe in a few months !

 

About the footprint : I actually have some 3x3 buildings. I have to do 3x4. I dont like the 4x4 buildings (for the low density) because it spawns a lot, a lot. It's sad (and its why the cities are boring : a few sizes available, and even less, because of the game's choices !!!)

  Edited November 2, 2015 by Attercap  

[Matthias King 348]

A Costco supermarket. It's an American bulk store chain. Bulk stores and supermarkets in general are absent from the game so far, so I'm looking forward to when some of those start getting uploaded by someone.

I'm anxious to see your 3x3 and 3x4 buildings. 4x4 could be high-density. That would be fine with me. It makes sense. Though I don't zone the same way most people do. I use the 'Building Eyedropper Tool' and the 'Control Level Up' mods and place buildings that way. I treat nearly every building like a unique building and put specific buildings in specific places to create every block, rather than just zoning big chunks of space all at once. It takes a really long time to make any real progress, but I think it looks far more realistic.

I'm looking forward to your next set of buildings.

[Attercap 123]

The Cossutta Building is a 3x3 building.

What's next ? : a new 2x2 corner. Level 3 buildings. Add some level 2. I dont want to do others level 1 because their lifetime is really short. Maybe a new 3x3 for a level 1, not more.

 

Are the players using a lot the control level up mod ? Did they stop buildings on the level one ? Why ?

[gfvsims 169]

Are the players using a lot the control level up mod ? Did they stop buildings on the level one ? Why ?

I use it because I prefer to choose when a building is allowed to level up. I'm afraid that if I don't, all my buildings will level up and look the same. At least this way, I can keep some at level 1, while also having higher levels. I like to maximise the building variety, especially in larger cities. (Hope that makes sense!)