bugs Simtropolis 9.0.x - Bugs & Issues Report Thread

[CaptCity 4,914]

On 6/9/2026 at 1:15 PM, Allein said:

Also has the wrong file attached as download.

Saw the report...Working on it... Thanks.

Later: Done... Not sure how in the world got that graveyard file attached... 

[AsimPika3172 1,155]

REMOVE PHANTOM BUDGET 

Wrong files? Becomes SC4MoreDemandInfo.zip instead... 

[Cyclone Boom 17,031]

Thanks @AsimPika3172 also for reporting.

I'm wondering if this is a glitch happening here, as it's occurring on quite a frequent basis (more than would be expected from genuine mistakes). I notice the More Demand DLL was uploaded about 60 seconds prior to Phantom Budget, so it makes me believe the site is copying over the 1st upload to the 2nd entry. Perhaps if having two tabs open and uploading files at once might be causing it. This shouldn't be a problem though once saving, so it sure is an oddity.

This really underlines the importance of the verification phase in restoring content, to make sure each file entry has been updated correctly. Any glitches like this or unwanted files under the Download button can be identified, so we'll double check everything is in order.

I'll see if I can reproduce the issue, as that always helps when trying to fix something.

[CaptCity 4,914]

4 hours ago, AsimPika3172 said:

Wrong files? Becomes SC4MoreDemandInfo.zip instead... 

Replaced with correct file. Thanks.

[AsimPika3172 1,155]

You are welcome! 

[pikachu_SQ 1,111]

Hmm... Ragutaro Compilation is not shown on New Club Files. 

[CaptCity 4,914]

4 hours ago, pikachu_SQ said:

Hmm... Ragutaro Compilation is not shown on New Club Files. 

Just tried a couple things... It looks like the first image (the one selected to be displayed as the default) was not being recognized by the homepage as an acceptable size/shape or something. When I chose one of the other images as the default, it now appears.

I believe we've come across a similar thing in other areas - maybe Features..?

[TheMurderousCricket 5,102]

Hi,

I noticed that there are "downloaded / not downloaded" markings for each item in the STEX pages. I would like to know if this bookkeeping was also affected by the ST outage?

The reason I ask is that some of the items which I clearly have on my drive are not marked downloaded... And I grabbed them roughly around the time when the site was cauterized.

There is yet another thing - I have a long-running project of browsing items from the oldest ones, up the list, to the newest. I tried to resume this today but have a feeling that items are mixed sometimes and among the items which I have, I keep seeing BATs which I never noticed before in this chronological order which I clearly would not have missed due to their appeal.

I'm not sure if I make sense, but I'm a little confused now.

EDIT: Even worse - I have a "downloaded" sign next to items I don't have...

EDIT 2: Sorry, cheked this - wrong conclusion about "downloaded" items missing on drive.

[CaptCity 4,914]

32 minutes ago, TheMurderousCricket said:

I noticed that there are "downloaded / not downloaded" markings for each item in the STEX pages. I would like to know if this bookkeeping was also affected by the ST outage?

Pretty sure it was. Like you, I've noticed the 'not downloaded' sign for things I do have and only could've gotten from the STEX. Also, looking at the 'Who has downloaded' list, there is a gap from February  to now.

 

Later:

32 minutes ago, TheMurderousCricket said:

EDIT: Even worse - I have a "downloaded" sign next to items I don't have...

Oh, that is something I haven't noticed. That is odd. Okay, saw the above Edit...

[TheMurderousCricket 5,102]

2 minutes ago, CaptCity said:

Pretty sure it was.

By the way, when was this feature implemented actually?

What about the chronology? Maybe it's just my memory - could the order have been affected? Is there any way the site could haphazardly throw stuff here or there regardless of submission date?

[CaptCity 4,914]

3 hours ago, TheMurderousCricket said:

By the way, when was this feature implemented actually?

@Cyclone Boom could give a more accurate answer, but it was one of the several things that were added not too long before the site went down. I believe the current theory is that all those newly added features survived the restoration. So far, at least in my experience they have. As for other possible buggy behavior, again, CB would in the best postion to know the likelihood of that. I guess we just have to keep an eye out. 

[CaptCity 4,914]

5 hours ago, pikachu_SQ said:

Hmm... Ragutaro Compilation is not shown on New Club Files

 

56 minutes ago, CaptCity said:

Just tried a couple things...

Okay, it looks like the image may have needed to be in the jpg format rather than png. I noticed that it was only one of two in that format, so I made a new one as a jpg file and picked it as the default image. It seems to work. I don't remember if that is the standard requirement or not, but it seems to be in this case.

Later: Well, the upload directions give .png files as an acceptable format, and the one used was less than 2MB. So not sure why it didn't work...  Need to get @Cyclone Boom on the case...

Even Later: The drama continues... As a test I went back and selected the original image and removed the one I had added. Now the upload appears in the homepage listing as it should. Not sure why or what it all means. Guess it just needed a 'kick start'. 

[CaptCity 4,914]

3 hours ago, TheMurderousCricket said:

There is yet another thing - I have a long-running project of browsing items from the oldest ones, up the list, to the newest. I tried to resume this today but have a feeling that items are mixed sometimes and among the items which I have, I keep seeing BATs which I never noticed before in this chronological order which I clearly would not have missed due to their appeal.

Forgot to ask about this the first time around... Are you asking about older versions of things that are sometimes accessible through the 'change log' feature on the STEX listings?

 

Or do you mean the order in which things were uploaded originally and now they are not in the same order? In this case, I believe most of the restoration that has been so far should be in the same order since the listings are still there, but only the files needed to be re-attached. This won't be true as we get to the things that have no listings any more (Feb - April uploads). They won't  be in the same order that you might remember since they'll appear to be 'new' ones. So far, however, these have been few, but maybe they're the ones you've noticed. Hope that makes sense...

[Cyclone Boom 17,031]

Hi TMC,

@CaptCity has already touched on most things, but I'll try to answer the best I can...

 

18 hours ago, TheMurderousCricket said:

I noticed that there are "downloaded / not downloaded" markings for each item in the STEX pages. I would like to know if this bookkeeping was also affected by the ST outage?

As Capt said, this was a new feature I added shortly before the site crash. I didn't quite get around to formerly announcing it, and ironically the very day I was planning that, the old server was vaporised into cyberspace. Thankfully though, I kept local backups of all the edits I made to the board software code.

I've added back most (if not all) these custom edits I made, including the downloads history feature. The data retained for downloads history will be missing from 01 March to 16 April, the day the site went down. So yes, any downloads you made between this period won't be logged.

There is a separate "My Downloads" history table which I'll be unveiling in due course.

Here's a sneak peek of that:

So that's officially coming soon...

 

17 hours ago, TheMurderousCricket said:

What about the chronology? Maybe it's just my memory - could the order have been affected? Is there any way the site could haphazardly throw stuff here or there regardless of submission date?

Thankfully, the order of downloads won't be affected, since the history data was intact up to the cut-off (01 March). It sill goes back to October 2024 which was when I first implemented the downloads history. This is separate from the "Who downloaded this?" lists on each file. Your own downloads history is now stored indefinitely, unless clearing individual entries (or the whole list), which will be options available on the new My Downloads page.

 

17 hours ago, CaptCity said:

Even Later: The drama continues... As a test I went back and selected the original image and removed the one I had added. Now the upload appears in the homepage listing as it should. Not sure why or what it all means. Guess it just needed a 'kick start'. 

That sure is unusual, and indeed, there aren't restrictions on PNG images for file screenshots (although typically we do prefer JPG for gameplay type images).

It makes me wonder if there's a lingering cache with the homepage feed sometimes, and perhaps editing the file helped to update that cache.

[simmering 2,742]

1 hour ago, Cyclone Boom said:

Thankfully, the order of downloads won't be affected, since the history data was intact up to the cut-off (01 March).

Could there be however a hiccup caused by the restoration effort? I am not sure but I think I saw the yellow "Update Available" button for files I already have. I concluded that the restored file must have a different upload timestamp. It's not really an issue though.

[Cyclone Boom 17,031]

21 minutes ago, simmering said:

Could there be however a hiccup caused by the restoration effort? I am not sure but I think I saw the yellow "Update Available" button for files I already have. I concluded that the restored file must have a different upload timestamp. It's not really an issue though.

That's a very good point actually. Files which have been restored will show as having an "Update Available". This is because the mechanism for file updates is simply a new file version, not cross-checking what used to be present.

I'll see what I can do to correct this, since if the file size or file name matches, I can propagate the data. So then anything you'd downloaded which matches a new version, will still show as your latest downloaded release (green label).

[CaptCity 4,914]

1 hour ago, Cyclone Boom said:

I'll see what I can do to correct this, since if the file size or file name matches, I can propagate the data. So then anything you'd downloaded which matches a new version, will still show as your latest downloaded release (green label).

Oh ummm... Then this means that, as we restore items, we'll need to be sure to rename things to the exact way they had been? I admit I will often rename a file so that it 'fits' my filing system, aaaaaand I haven't always renamed them when I restore them...    They're always close but maybe not exact...

Guess I'll have to keep that in mind.

[Cyclone Boom 17,031]

@CaptCity 

No worries! What I have in mind is an either/or check for name OR file size. If one of them matches, it can be considered the same download. Of course, we'd have to watch out for generic names like files.zip and also exclude config.bmp files. Maybe even a small margin of error for file size (as can happen if a zip is re-packaged with different compression).

I'll figure something out...

[CaptCity 4,914]

5 minutes ago, Cyclone Boom said:

No worries! What I have in mind is an either/or check for name OR file size...

That's good to know. Practically all creators name their creations sufficiently to know what it is. I just add a bit for clarity. Hopefully something can be worked out.

 

3 hours ago, Cyclone Boom said:

It makes me wonder if there's a lingering cache with the homepage feed sometimes, and perhaps editing the file helped to update that cache.

This makes me wonder about something else I (and maybe others..?) have seen. A few times (and it seems to be random) the 'New Club Files' listing on the homepage seems to reset to where only one to three items will be listed after previously being full. The rest is blank space. As I've restored club items, the list will fill in as usual, but the previous entries never return. I believe I've seen it four times with time gaps of 2 or 3 days. However, once, it was only a few minutes. Just curious... I just assumed it was a 'hiccup'...

[CaptCity 4,914]

On 6/11/2026 at 9:30 AM, CaptCity said:

This makes me wonder about something else I (and maybe others..?) have seen. A few times (and it seems to be random) the 'New Club Files' listing on the homepage seems to reset to where only one to three items will be listed after previously being full. 

Just a followup...

I noticed today that the listing was completely empty. I restored a club file and it displayed as expected, but no others

[Propfam 2,305]

 

Is it just me or the ST is a bit different?

[Cyclone Boom 17,031]

@Propfam 

Yes, I created a higher resolution version for modern favicon standards. The original still shows in 16x16 size on browser tabs.

Here they are: