nybt-forum-threads NYBT BAT Thread

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Page Filp. (I will delete this post soon as mor people post)

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Page Filp. (I will delete this post soon as mor people post)

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Page Filp. (I will delete this post soon as mor people post)

[Sgt Pepper 864]

One more page flip...

EDIT: Got it Aaron! Hmm this is getting ridiculous with the page flips in this thread...do we need a new thread?

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

How about making a new one.

[Cockatoo 2,256]

(I will delete this post soon as mor people post)quote>

I wouldn't do that. The PFB is only gets worse when you delete posts from an infected thread. If it took you 4 posts to push it over this time, and then you delete 3 of them, it'll take you 7 posts to flip to the next page (something like that anyway).

[GuerrilaWarfare 39]

Cockatoo, Just a question ? How did HKBT get their own forum ?

[Cockatoo 2,256]

^ Not sure tbh. I wasn't even a member when the HKABT got the team room, it was that long ago.

If you want to apply for an NYBT forum, you'll have to talk to the admins about it.

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Yes, you'd need to have a little talk with the admins.

However, if you look at places like the BSC, NDEX, and HKABT sub-forums, you will notice that their hey-days have passed and they are nowadays rather inactive. Chances are that whenver there is soemthing new, you'd take a while to notice because you don't visit these places so often any more.

This is why I'd throw in another option to be discussed: Why not have a common "Team Tag" like [NYBT:] in front of all threads opened by your members, and have each member lead their own NYBT thread right here, in the Open Discussion sub-forum, where there's more life and people are more likely to see your updates and comment?

We should probably have done the same for HKABT right away...

[Jumpthefence 74]

Okay... back on topic, I'm going to post some my BAT progress!

So, I figured out the problem with what I thought was a lighting rig. Turns out that it was just some weird shadow pattern. If I was smarter, I probably could have figured that out before putting  the roof in. Nonetheless, it's fixed.

The other new stuff (if you really need a list): Roof, all walls are complete, ground level storefronts w/ 3D details, the 10th floor has filled-in windows of some sort, and the deck / stoop / forecourt / (my book doesn't say what the exact term is) is being worked on, though the basic geometry is done.

Otherwise, just post what you think of it right now. It's obviously still in the works, but now we be a good time to point out major flaws. For example, you could point out that including the deck / stoop / forecourt, the building is now over 48 meters wide. It is, in fact, 52 meters wide, and I'll have to scale it down.

One last thing, if I don't get to post again by tomorrow afternoon, I'll be going to Pennsylvania between Friday afternoon to Monday morning for Independence Day. Because I know you'd all absolutely panic without me.

Farvel!

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Jumpthefence- The textures look great.

Heres that apartment building.

[Francis90b 748]

Actually there's a lot that could be done there...the pink walls might look better if slightly darkened and with a slightly toned down hue;the yellow parts, on the contrary, might need to be a bit more noticeable and less "washed away" and "worn out".

But let me say that i'm really glad you've resumed your work with that wonderful buinding!

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Francis90b- I would love to see some BATs from you. You seem to make things but never finish. You always teasing us.

[Sgt Pepper 864]

More attempt to get back on topic with my BAT-

An HQ render of my overall progress. I forgot to do some stuff, but there's stuff I've done.

Simfox- Does the glass texture look right? I said on the last post of page 49 that I thought more on your considerations on the glass and was trying them.
Cockatoo- I thought you were always a team member when HKBT got their forum...? Of course I don't even know when they got it. I originally joined this site early or mid '08.
T Wrecks-Oh so I see how they got their forums now...I thought it was just under speacial circumstances without asking...Of course, your plan sounds like a great idea there, but I wasn't trying to ask about making a NYBT Forum. I meant earlier that we need a new NYBT BAT Thread to start phresh since this one has the pageflip bug every single page now...but starting a new thread probably wouldn't help it.
JTF- I love how it's turning out so far. But the roof doesn't look too complete like you said(typo?) Also, it maybe just me, but the parts in between the windows(greyish brown parts) look like a solid color a little much. Maybe fixing that out? Also, the building you're making was an office building but currently serves as residential condos. Maybe 2 versions of commercial and residential lots would be nice. And we will panic without you...DONT GO!!!!!!!!.......ehco
.....echo....
Aaron-Wow nice to see you BATing once more! And I agree with Francis90b's points about it. Other than that I love it!
Francis90b- Yea like Aaron said, I want to see your wonderful BATs you were working on finished! Weren't you working on that Lower Manhattan New York Stock Exchange Building(not the actually NYSE, some art-deco tower)? It would be nice to see it again.

I'm currently comtemplating my next NYBT BAT...either the HSBC Bank Tower in Lower Manhattan(never finished that old one I was doing) or this other building near there at 160-170 Water Street(its a big but short black office tower).

[Francis90b 748]

So i try to offer you useful, (un)interested suggestions in a jerk-like gentle manner and the reward is a remainder about my faults and my obligations?

Bad guys, bad !

Well, joking aside i've been a lurker for a lot of time due to RL obligations.I might have to wait still a few days, though, before re-considering this part of my life and dedicating to it.

Until then i will lurk around there, always ready to demolish comment your BATS !

[Cockatoo 2,256]

Originally posted by: T Wrecks

However, if you look at places like the BSC, NDEX, and HKABT sub-forums, you will notice that their hey-days have passed and they are nowadays rather inactive. Chances are that whenver there is soemthing new, you'd take a while to notice because you don't visit these places so often any more.

This is why I'd throw in another option to be discussed: Why not have a common "Team Tag" like [NYBT:] in front of all threads opened by your members, and have each member lead their own NYBT thread right here, in the Open Discussion sub-forum, where there's more life and people are more likely to see your updates and comment?

We should probably have done the same for HKABT right away...quote>

BSC and NDEX have well and truly moved on - I'm not even sure for how much longer those team rooms will be up. We've still got a little activity in the HKABT room, but admittedly things are slowing down quite a bit nowadays.

I like the idea of tagging all your BATer's threads with the NYBT label. If you want maximum exposure, I'd go for that and stay in open discussion. Then again, if you want a nice little place to keep all your threads organised, you could apply for a team room. I'll leave it up to you guys.

[GeometryMath Algebra 614]

how's your New York Marriott World Financial Center?

[SimFox 801]

JTF:

I guess I would have to be big bad wolf once more...

The building you're making has couple of modeling flaws one is a major (imho) and one is a minor (well there may be many of those in each and every model ever made).

The major flaw is is severely disturbed proportions in height between ground floor and regular floors of the building. Your GF is way-way too tall.

just take a look - here is real building:

and here is yours:

The minor flaw I'm referring is more of a conceptual type. I know that the real building is not strictly rectangular in cross section.  Yet this is imho totally insignificant fact. In no way does it affect expressive side of the design. It is nothing more then adjustment to the existing street layout. Of course one may say that there is nothing wrong in doing things accurately. And I would normally agree. But here we have an example of situation that may warrant another look at this principle. You're, after all making the model for SC4. And it has rectangular layout of plots/Lots. Would you go with your accurate, tapered design you would find that building would look odd (and not in a nice quirky way) in LOT editor and game.

So I would say return to the original rectangular floor plan building will not loose any of it "look" and would gain great deal in compatibility.

SgtPeP:

yet something along these lines look better.. I would still like more Maxis one cause it provides greater variety and livens up the glass better, but this is a minor matter of personal opinions, but the blackness of glass (the way it was before) I'd say is more of an objective objection, so to say

[Sgt Pepper 864]

Seeing now what Simfox pointed out on your model JTF, I'm going to have to agree on his points. However, I wouldn't drop the current shape to the rectangular one. IMO, it will look better in many user's skylines the way it is. And altering shapes of Real Life Structures will make them appear as another building than the one it's supposed to represent. It wouldn't look odd ingame as that shape.

Simfox, about the glass again, the texture I'm using is the Maxis one, but I altered the colors and altered it's size on my building, if it looks to different or not reflecting properly, what would you suggest?

Oh and by the way, just to let any of you know, I'm going to a family reunion this weekend in Mississippi, so I won't really be around untill Sunday probably.

[PBGV103 729]

Added some grime to the roof and still can't get the windows how I want them, especially the ground floor windows.  Any suggestions? 

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Want you ask someone who are great at makeing glass texture. Cockatoo-210893 gave Simcityfan12 a nice window texture for his building, but the bad thing was it was never uploaded on ST.

[SimHoTToDDy 2,938]

PBGV103: take a look at the previous page, Sgt Pepper is going through a similar issue. You might find that the comments directed at him are equally relevant.

[SimFox 801]

SgtPepper:

Well, I think the "reflection" effect would be more alive (for the lack of better term) if the pattern would be somewhat smaller, I think...

As for the shape of that 10 Hanover square building for all intents and purposes it's shape is defined by its relationship to the street. Real building follows the street. The actual tapering is absolutely imperceivable from street level and hardly noticeable from Google Earth type of the view.

Would JTF continue with tapered shape it would a) stand out in SC4, and do so not in a way to add the variety to skyline - the tapering is too small for that, it would be plain odd and look more like a clumsy LOT job.

PBGV103:

Well I guess the first step should be explicitly state HOW you want them. Before you accomplish that you wouldn't progress... That's why I keep repeating - verbalize all your ideas and wishes. More then that write them down. Then read it and see if it actually make any sense - you'd be surprised how often it wouldn't...

Also your nightlighting at the roof is a bit too strong - it completely blows out.

[lucky7 73]

Very good progress everyone!

Oh, I wonder if anyone of you still has the AT&T Long Lines Bldg an 17 State Street as there are no longer on the STEX. I don't think that Brandon has them anymore, so I'd really appreciate your help.

Thanx a lot in advance,

lucky7

[Sgt Pepper 864]

Well the hotel I'm staying at actually has internet and computers so I got to check the NYBT Thread earlier than I thought...too bad I can't access facebook though... Seems like I always find a way to be here even if I'm outta state...

PBGv103-Good to see it again.And yes, like Todd said, I'm having similar issues, you'll find SimFox's comments very helpful. I love the BAT my friend. But just curious...would you consider 2 versions of that? 1 with flags and one without? I remember making and old Louisiana BAT that I put BATed flags on it and T Wrecks mentioned about having a version without flags. Since, not every person is from America or is trying to make American Buildings. Even though I'm American.

Aaron- That BAT I still have uploaded at the SimCity Community Website(the one with the Magazine) You can get it there, but I should upload it at ST too. I believe I was supposed to, but forgot. I'd better get to that when I can.

SimFox- Hmm, your probably right about the glass, I should shrink it some. I'll have to do that when I get back to my Computer and not a hotel one. True about the building's slight tamperings....It was shaped like that in RL to fit the actual lot in New York.

lucky7- Hey Rene, Yea, I don't have the AT&T Long Lines anymore, one of my few BATs left unre-released. Though my other NYBT BATs are. 17 State Street I had, not any more...neither do I have the 599 Lexington. I'm sure someone has it. I think GurillaWarefare has it...I'm not sure if we can re-release Kryptowhite's BATs on the STEX though, or if permission would matter with him.

[PBGV103 729]

I might be able to do that. I was also had been hoping to release it tomorrow since it's the 4th of July and the building has american flags. I could also relplace the flags with other livery, upon request.

[Seraf 1,238]

Aaron Graham - Apartment building looks promising, but personally I don't think this color is good for facade ^^"

Sgt Pepper - I like your 22 Cortlandt Street, can't wait to see it finished.

Jumpthefence - Your building looks nice but a bit flat ... but I think the real one is a bit flat too, so it's ok

Small update from me, I added panels under the stairs and floor of upper terrace. I also changed texture of brick on the ground. I put two versions of render, second version is scaled to +30%, please tell me which one looks better.

[ozdaniel 4]

the second one!!!!

[lucky7 73]

@ Seraf: I would vote for the second one, too. The stairs are slightly steeper. It looks really great, btw.

@ Sgt Pepper: Brandon, I have 599 Lexington Ave. I send it to you via email!

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

I want 599 l Lexington Ave. send it to me.