TBM 100th annivery memorial 1.0

[u]Great Job [/u]

Titanic. You've been offered help all this time, people have rendered stuff for you and you release this. This, what you showed last week and everyone commented on what you should do, how you should continue. For this 4 story sign and a textureless memorial. You didn't even bother to change the scale.

The titanic sank on April 14th. The date you wanted this out. Even to learn BAT that isn't enough time. Let alone to produce the quality you're expecting (though at the moment I don't know WHAT you expect)
...and you release it 2 months and 14 days ahead of schedule. All that time could have been spent improving your skills.

After the constant advice people willingly give you and you produce this, I don't know what you want anymore.

..I hate to say this, but I second _marsh_. From what I can see, this one can really use [u]a lot[/u] of improvement. I'm thinking you should shelve this project and practice with simple designs. No one can become a master of the BAT overnight, it takes work. And to save time and face, Try doing little stuff. As the old saying goes "practice makes perfect". You really can't just crank out shoddy products with minimal skill, it doesn't work that way. When I was making my F-15's I wanted to make it as accurate as possible. Every day I found new flaws and fixed them until there weren't any more. I suggest doing the same thing. Stick to one project and work on it everyday. Using photos to try and match the real thing and asking questions about what to do next will bring in better reviews. I was also about to reply to a message you sent me about this and I now find it on the STEX and taking heavy fire (as with almost all of your uploads). You [b]can[/b] reverse this downward trend, you just have to keep at it and don't let thoughts like "I can't make anything good" take over. Right now, I would suggest working on a simple BAT, like maybe a Titanic funnel. And before even [u]thinking[/u] of uploading, ask experienced BATters questions. If you still don't know how to do it, there are lots of tutorials on how to do it. The one thing we do ask is not to stay at square 1 where this cycle just loops over and over again.

Oh my....again.....You should really listen to what people say......*sigh...how come there isn't a [b]thumbsdown[/b] smiley on that darn list?

You are able to do better. I think there are perfect models from HeXy and so on. Why not using these models as material and some props? In that way will things be easier.

As the above commenters said before, don't rush things. There's still a lot that needs to be done for this model. No wonder why its current rating is only a mere 1.33 stars; it's rushed and it just looks not done yet.

What it mainly misses is detail, textures and the right scaling. The model looks bare, quite square, detailless and most of all, way too big (a 40m high sign with 3m letters, really?).

Also, the lot looks also way too big and empty; not even a single lamp, person, tree, bench or whatever is placed on the lot, making the lot look like a giant waste of space.

I think you want to start with a too big project as your first BAT. Start small, try to get to know the BAT well, take a look at the details and reference material, know your limits and most of all: do something with the comments from experienced BATters to improve your model.

I may sound harsh and like I'm echoing the previous comments, but this is exactly what most people will think of it. We don't like to see people fail and we try to push them in the right direction, but it needs to come from both sides. I've seen it before at Nathanthemayor's BATs and fortunately, he did eventually listen to the comments on his BATs and his BATs are getting better from the level "absolute garbage" to "pretty decent". If you take time to listen and improve your models, you might go in the same direction. I like to see people improve over time rather than failing over and over again...

Best,
Maarten

wow people are so kind, but I don't even think the uploader will bother to read these well intentioned but lengthy comments. to all the comments above, but on this upload. 1/5

I'm not being harsh, but your model could be so much better with refinement and such, it's a step in the right direction, but I think it may be way too complex for you at this stage. I'd advise with something smaller...

I would be offended if this was a memorial for a friend or family-member that died at the titanic...

You really need to listen to the people that are trying to help you improve!

I only gave you the idea to make the ship smaller and you never followed the advice. That doesn't mean that im on the TBM team. I never formally agreed to join the team, I just gave you advice that you never followed. Could you remove my name from the upload?

This is from one of your city journals [img]https://www.simtropolis.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/45.gif[/img]

crappy made BAT. 0/5

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I only gave you the idea to make the ship smaller and you never followed the advice. That doesn't mean that im on the TBM team. I never formally agreed to join the team, I just gave you advice that you never followed. Could you remove my name from the upload?
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I've removed your name from the description.

Also, to everyone, please try and follow the examples set by a few of our members already and keep your criticisms constructive. Thanks.

Taking another look at this download, I would have made some big changes. The model itself is OK (though I would say get rid of that sign and move the letters to being at the base kind of like those plastic models) and I would completely redo the landscaping. I would have done something like this:

[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/davistestrangedec222132.png/[/img]

o really

Primitively modelled, strangely scaled, untextured, and the STEX entry is riddled with spelling errors. I'm sorry, but how is anyone supposed to take an upload like this seriously? You want to contribute, that's great - but at some point you need to ask yourself, "is what I'm contributing going to be in any way worthwhile to the community? And does the quality of the contribution I am making do it justice?"

hmm certainly the lot could use some work but hhhmm its ok. also i recommended you research some ideas for texture quality

Please guys, if I download this just kill me.