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Originally posted by: SimFox Originally posted by: liaowei Originally posted by: hmm Very random indeed... I guess they probably inteneded to build a new subdivision out there when the economy was good, but it was canceled during the 2008 economic crash, but received a massive influx of government investment with china's bailout plan, I heard they are dumping over 4 trillion yaun (586billion USD) on infrastructure. It always seems that when any government throws money at a problem, nobody pays attention to where that money goes...quote> yep,indeed, 4 trillian RMB. but citizens aren't that happy with it. the money did boom the GDP up from the bottom to 11.9% (first season in 2010), however, the bubble comes up too, the housing prise is ridiculously high, in Beijing and Shanghai, an average 1000sf apartment(just an usual apartment,not a house with garden) cost more than 2.5 million RMB?about 400,000 USD), and this is happening in every city in China, average cost of similar housing in other Middle-big city is way too high than people's income(usually the people live in city has an average income around 6,000 USD/year), we Chinese just have 1/10 of US citizens' income while we have to afford almost the same housing price``````again```WTF```` quote> Oh really? WtF Wtf WtF - that seem to be you main argument... Where did you dig up all those numbers? or are you just inventing them as you write? Where did the number 2,5 million RMB for a "typical" 1000SF apartment did come? What is that typical apartment. and the number 1000SF... Yeah sure that is typical... Do you even know what is a typical size of apartment in most huge cities in the world? And those shots from Google Earth are from 2008 and not from "now". Also you conveniently decided not to tell where does the line go and choose not to show all the development along it which is evident even on those 2 years old shots. What is it just a mistake or design? quote> well, the real estate in china is defferent from US, we seldom build “houses”(that‘s what rich people will live i)China has too many people and too little available cityland), we build highrise apartment(usually 20~30floors), the apartment usually range from 80m^2 to 150m^2 ,that's 870sf-1600sf. and why do i know about it? because i live in China and i know well enough about my homeland ! and this is the latest average price per m^2 in top 12 city of china (April,2010) average price in April (the second-hand housing is counted in the number, new apartment will be more expesive than the figure below) city RMB/m^2 compared last month compared with Dec. 2009 Shanghai 24622 5.22% 19.46% Beijing 23286 11.95% 27.66% Hangzhou 19962 8.50% 7.59% Ningbo 15973 9.50% 19.77% Shenzhen 15786 5.09% 8.84% Nanjing 13751 10.08% 21.95% Tianjin 12308 6.95% 17.07% Guangzhou 11426 2.98% 13.61% Xiamen 11189 3.68% 5.61% Dalian 10669 5.51% 10.87% Qingdao 10562 11.66% 6.20% Fuzhou 10076 4.75% 12.06% 1m^2=10.87 sf 1 USD=6.8 RMB so make it into USD/sf ? city USD/sf price of an 1000sf apartment(USD) Shanghai 333 333,000 Beijing 317 317,000 Hangzhou 271 271,000 Ningbo 217 217,000 Shenzhen 213 213,000 Nanjing 187 187,000 Tianjin 167 167,000 Guangzhou 155 155,000 Xiamen 152 152,000 Dalian 145 145,000 Qingdao 143 143,000 Fuzhou 137 137,000 and the most important is `````we have a much lower income than you guys``````` here's some photo of thoes typical apartments you will see in every city of china: Guangzhou: EDIT: Please keep all pictures under 800x600, thank you. -SC4 Meister ST Site Mod https://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac21/wlager/8bede145.jpg Shenyang:

Originally posted by: hmm Very random indeed... I guess they probably inteneded to build a new subdivision out there when the economy was good, but it was canceled during the 2008 economic crash, but received a massive influx of government investment with china's bailout plan, I heard they are dumping over 4 trillion yaun (586billion USD) on infrastructure. It always seems that when any government throws money at a problem, nobody pays attention to where that money goes...quote> yep,indeed, 4 trillian RMB. but citizens aren't that happy with it. the money did boom the GDP up from the bottom to 11.9% (first season in 2010), however, the bubble comes up too, the housing prise is ridiculously high, in Beijing and Shanghai, an average 1000sf apartment(just an usual apartment,not a house with garden) cost more than 2.5 million RMB(about 400,000 USD), and this is happening in every city in China, average cost of similar housing in other Middle-big city is way too high than people's income(usually the people live in city has an average income around 6,000 USD/year) , we Chinese just have 1/10 of US citizens' income while we have to afford almost the same housing price``````again```WTF````

Originally posted by: TekindusT Well, it could be the first part of a newly planned neighbourhood...quote> but it‘s been 4 years, nothing changed`````if there's a real plan there, it would be far too early to put a massive metro line in the middle of crops and rice`````?it‘s been wasting taxpayers’ money every single day as long as the lonely driver driving his lonely train on the line(it’s actually happening````````) WTF is wrong with the government planner```````````

have you ever seen or thought about a metro station built out of nowhere````? I mean somewhere you can see crops or rice```````` here it is```````a farmland modern metro station with a muddy county road connected``````````` —_—`````````! EDIT: Please keep all images under 800x600, (or 600x800). Thank you. -SC4 Meister ST Site Mod https://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac21/wlager/1-1.jpg https://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac21/wlager/2.jpg the line was completed in 2006, but today, 4 years later, nothing changed there``````` the line 4 of Guangzhou metro,which is showed in the pics,costs more than 13 billion RMB(about 2 billion USD) and it continued to lose more since it opened```````there's few people using the line,actually,sometimes there’s only one passenger in the train,the driver````````````` ps: Guangzhou is the 3rd biggest city in China ,populated with about 11 million people