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Well, I've been thinking this over some more.  If my theory about the Harappan civilization of the Indus Valley (which is now mostly in Pakistan) having extremely advanced technology is correct, who knows, we could end up making Venus habitable by 2030.  The archaeological record we have of them shows that they had developed hydraulic technology, sewers, working toilets, dentistry, and docks that meet most modern standards back around 2500BC.  My theory is probably more than a bit exaggerated, but who knows. 

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The Cubs still will not have won the World Series, and the Yankees payrole will be about 500 million dollars

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@HamsterTK: Then there's the question of whether we (the USA) have even been on the moon. It would be incredibly funny if those conspiracy theories proved true. hehe. We need to get people on Mars first!

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Tampa by 2050 will no longer have any poor people.

It will be one of the largest cities in the U.S. It will become bigger than Miami, only trailing I believe by 2 million.. Which with all these new condos downtown will definatly bring that. Also, the CBD will become much larger, they've pushed out nearly all of the Industry.

Tampa's bad areas, (22nd st, Temple Terrace, and Town and Country) will become completly rich leaving the old middle class areas to turn into ghettos some how, or making a surrounding county with more crime.

The cost of living here in Tampa keeps rising, Small condos out of town start at 200k, that's where I live, about 20+ miles from downtown... In downtown condos start at 300k... and thats for the lower wealth.

None of these things have even come close to being finished, we're looking at 2008 and everything is alreayd sold out, even the stuff that isn't even started yet.

There are currently 45 projects in the room, 8 have left.

8 New Residential Towers. Also The City of Tampa has purchased the old 1920 suburbs just north of I-275 and the surrounding area north of U.T and plans changing the zoning from low density to medium and up.

Growth here in this area is ridiculas.

I live on an old farm that was built in the 20's and the block around my house has been untouched since I was born in 88. and now there are 4 projects to build 2 million dollar houses and upscale suburb neighborhoods all around the old farms.

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I didn't have time to check all the topic, but i think that the most important point is that in 2050 will be no more petrol and gas anymore on the planet. Since we don't economy it at all, especially countries like Russia and US, where is it pretty cheap, now we losing it more and more. Countries, which economically based on petrol, like Russia, Saudi Arabia, Arabican Emirates supposed to have worse life then now. Europe will be pretty strong, as we have much technologies. China whatever they say won't be so progressive as soon as they continue to use political system as now.

So there will be no petrol in 2050, this what we forget totally, I doubt that there will be possibility to continue to use planes, I guess we gonna travel with fast train, which is gonna use different power. Unless we find another system. When space ship leaves the atmosphere, it can simply stay on the same level, and since earth is moving, to come to different places, in this moment we don't nead to use petrol, so it will be very fast way to travel, and pretty cheap, the only thing that we need to find another resource to go out outside of atmoshpere, otherwise if to use to petrol, it's gonna be even more then Paris-NY flight. I guess our life won't change so much, but we will live different way.

All will depend of energy, of course there will be still solar plants, and I guess the one which french people are gonna make in few years, which works totally on nothing ( let's say on power of space). Also I think we will be able not to have problem with cancers and heights anymore. Now for instance in the south-west of France in city called Toulouse is gonna be built the biggest hospital of cancer in the world, I am sure it will be able to live such deseases far in past. And at the end not our, but newt generation is going to make a lot of surgeries to look better, to make perfect body, so I guess our kids and grankids will be mostly perfect, at least they'll change all what is possible to change. And at the end some beautiful places will be forever lost under the water, as islands, Venice, etc. But anyway it's freaky to live in future, let's concentrate on present for now and save the energy. If next few years we can do that, our life will be more easy at least.

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I can pretty sure..unless I live to be 80+ (ex smoking couch potato)...Hey, we all gotta go, make way for you young uns...still, nice to know you care 4.gif

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No more oil? You serious? There is PLENTY of oil left (Don't believe anything the media says...heheh). The only problem is that the price will continue to skyrocket. My theory is that the cost to drill for oil will rise and will render oil obsolete as a cost-effective energy source (Maybe not by 2050, but eventually). This will cause focus to shift onto other fossil fuels or renewables for energy. Relatively cost-effective hydrogen powered autos are not too far away.

btw...planes will be powered by antimatter! That will probably be a bit off into the future though....

but my most important concern, what will happen to auto racing? Hmm...

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Originally posted by: paperboy15 @Amandine

No more oil? You serious? There is PLENTY of oil left (Don't believe anything the media says...heheh). The only problem is that the price will continue to skyrocket. My theory is that the cost to drill for oil will rise and will render oil obsolete as a cost-effective energy source (Maybe not by 2050, but eventually). quote>

 

It depends on if we find any more reserves and if the world will be willing to dig up Antarctica but most of the information I can find on the subject agree now that around 2050 to 2080 both oil and gas (not coal) will run out at the current rate of which we use it. 

I agree with your theory, oil prices reaching uneconomic proportions will probably be the factor that will spell the end to the oil industry.

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I dont even think it will take to 2050 for oil to stop being a dominant energy source. I think the next 15 years will be the beginning of the end, and in 30 years we'll see gas stations being converted to hydrogen and/or corn diesel.

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It depends on if we find any more reserves and if the world will be willing to dig up Antarctica but most of the information I can find on the subject agree now that around 2050 to 2080 both oil and gas (not coal) will run out at the current rate of which we use it.quote>


There is a chance that is possible with thanks to China and India, but I do not see oil running out by then. It is more of a guessing game than anything, but you have proven and potential oil reserves. And thats not counting what hasn't even been discovered yet. Soils are even being "mined" for oil now. There are many sources...they are just getting less and less efficient. I wonder if that E85 Ethanol will catch on and stick or if that will fade away?

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Well, the thing with some of these alternative fuels is Catch-22s.  Take Hydrogen for instance.  The car manufacturers aren't building cars because there aren't any places to fuel them, and the fueling stations aren't going in because there aren't any Hydrogen cars.  It really isn't that hard to build a hydrogen fueling station if you know what you're actually doing.  And if I'm not mistaken, BMW makes hydrogen conversion kits.

Some of the Hydrogen prototype vehicles I've seen out there, are in my blunt and honest opinion, stupid and won't work.  Take, for instance, GM's "HydroGen3" from a couple of years ago.  It was a minivan that ran on liquid hydrogen.  There were a couple big issues with it: 1) it took 5 or 10 minutes to start, 2) it ran on liquid hydrogen, chilled to -423 degrees Fahrenheit (or -253 degrees Celsius).  If you get in an accident with that thing . . . you thought the Ford Pinto was bad, wait until you get in accident involving liquid Hydrogen . . . 41.gif

GM was all excited and was like "hey, we can start this car at -100 degrees F!"  Seriously . . . it still takes 5 or 10 minutes to start, and who's going to be driving a Hydrogen-powered minivan where it's -100 degrees out?

It's rather interesting to see that GM is putting a bunch of money into the E85 though.  Right now, many states still don't have E85 stations, so the real question will be if the stations are built now that they're making the vehicles . . .

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If you look back about 50 years in the past, the world really wasn't that different from today as some of you envision the future to be. I do believe, however that advancements in society and technology are exponential, especially since communications are so much better nowadays. Therefore, I highly doubt that in 44 years the ice caps will melt, the world temperature will go up 10 degrees, the U.S., U.N. and E.U. will collapse, people will be living on the moon, and buildings will touch the lower reaches of outer space, while some things will indeed change. Here are some of my more realistic predictions:

1: The situation in Iraq will be similar to that of Vietnam: the U.S. will withdraw in about 2 years and total civil war will break out, with Islamic fundamentalists gaining power.

2: Osama Bin Laden will finally be found in the hills of Afghanistan and his trial will be about as successful as Saddam Hussein's

3: Man will have barely landed on Mars

4: China will outpace the economy of the U.S., and its people will rebel and put an end to communist rule

5: Building heights will plateau at the point where building and maintenance are too costly and inneficient to go any higher (I believe we are reaching this point)

6: Fuel shortages and crises will be so severe from the depleted oil reserves that transportation of both people and goods will drop dramatically. The world will go into another Great Depression. After several years of this world crisis, scientists, engineers, and investors will finally get the hint to find and utilize alternative energy sources. Increase in nuclear power will probably occur, as well as fuel cell cars and an increased use in mass transit (if only my sims would do it! 3.gif)

7: As global awareness and environmetalism become more popular and crucial, more efforts will be taken to reduce world population growth as well as poverty. International funding to help third-world countries will educate and save millions of lives.

Those are some of my predictions...it'll be interesting to see what actually happens when I'm 60 years old.

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4.chinas economy already is outpacing the us

5. to build higher you just need to build more creatively

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Australia 2050

By 2050 my home town with a population of 1000 people will be a ghost town and in the later 2070's the global warming caused by the US and China will cause the Arctic Ice Shelfs to break and drift causing widespread flooding leaving Sydney New York Tokyo Venice and other major economic hubs deep in water Mt Everest will be one of the most densley forested areas after the entire glaciers and sheets of ice melting

Perth 2023 The Worlds Leading Biotechnology City

The city will grow and since its populated to the south and north it may just have to build up or the reserve forests will dissapear for the new headquarters of power hungry media outlets sadly most of the city is losing land but unlike other urban centres Perth might have a plan and it might just be underground storage sadly New York cant do it cause they didnt use the underground space wisely they have too much stuff there like underground gas what happened to the old fashion hook up a bottle so anyway the underground space can be used for large water tanks to store the unprecedented water they would build leeves and dykes to keep the sea out.

Earlier on people thought wed have flying cars by now but excatly how do we get the resources we are just running out and by then nanotechnology will be their to help and if the US never signs the kyoto protocol all of the other countries will have to biodome them in a large greenhouse and finally clean oxygen to breathe and the US will be in their own filth

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most cities can use underground space but too many are clogged up and just maybe George W Bush will do something like sign the damn Kyoto Protocol and its about time those troops came out of Iraq and i cna sadly say the same thing for Australia except the Kyoto Protocol

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In 2050 

poole,bournemouth and cristchurch will be  one city called poole (i hope) making it mahusive 

The bottom of poole high street will be regenirated

poole will grow to both sides  the harbour mouth 

The quay will be further reginirated 

more offices built 

The 19 60's burtalist style poole dolphin centre,libary,gym and bus station will be taller and the modinerisation will be finished 

most people from north england move down south due to it getting colder

poole bridge will be modernised

ect......................................

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I doubt Ireland will have the economy to support "major skyscraper cities" in 50 years, unless something very dramatic happens.  

As the past has shown - and as I suspect this thread shows - it is nearly impossible to accurately predict the future (remember, according to 50 years ago's plans, by 2000 we'd all be living in 1 mile high skyscrapers, with nuclear powered lifts!), but that's just the nature of life.

Obviously major urban sprawl will occur in some places (the newly developing  now), like Delhi, Dubai, Shanghai (mainly around India, China, and the Middle East), but remember at the moment more people leave London each year than come (I think) - although more and more people are commuting, and the same applies to quite a lot of already well developed cities, so I think that urban shrinkage is more likely to occur.  In Japan, I expect they'll reclaim more sea as their other ideas like underground living or super tall skyscraper cities are not particularly feasible.

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Originally posted by: paperboy15 @Amandine

No more oil? You serious? There is PLENTY of oil left (Don't believe anything the media says...heheh). The only problem is that the price will continue to skyrocket. My theory is that the cost to drill for oil will rise and will render oil obsolete as a cost-effective energy source (Maybe not by 2050, but eventually). quote>

 

It depends on if we find any more reserves and if the world will be willing to dig up Antarctica but most of the information I can find on the subject agree now that around 2050 to 2080 both oil and gas (not coal) will run out at the current rate of which we use it. 

I agree with your theory, oil prices reaching uneconomic proportions will probably be the factor that will spell the end to the oil industry.quote>

your forgetting that it is possible to gow petrole. it can quite easily be fabricated - well sort of. if you look  poor places in some countries such as brazil they actually use spirits to run their cars instead of petrole since its cheaper.

although you wont get the same performance im pretty sure plants could be geneticly engineered to produce more highly flamable liquids when brewed to produce a 'systhesised' petrole.

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    Originally posted by: p2h5 I doubt Ireland will have the economy to support "major skyscraper cities" in 50 years, unless something very dramatic happens. 
     

    I have a feeling that the 'dramatic' thing you are talking about is the Celtic Tiger, that started in the early 90s and is still going strong. The economy is the fastest growing in Europe and the country is one of the richest in the world (per person). There are already ambitious plans to convert the last of the docklands (most of which have been converted into new city districts, most notably the IFSC (International Financial Services Centre) with over half of the world's top 50 banks having some form of representation at the centre. Many international (mainly US) companies also have their European headquarters in or around the city (eg. Google, Yahoo!, PayPal, AOL, etc...). And Dublin has also been labeled "The Silicon Valley Of Europe". Anyone that has been to the city and has seen these business parks will know what I'm talking about (eg - Citywest (http://www.citywest.ie/), IFSC (http://www.ifsconline.ie/), Parkwest (http://www.parkwest.ie/) and the list goes on...

    About skyscrapers, look at these plans and development companies -

    http://www.ddda.ie/ (Dublin Docklands Development Authority)

    http://www.progressivedemocrats.ie/uploads/images/A_new_heart_for_Dublin.pdf ('A New Heart For Dublin' proposals)

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    2050

    In the Netherlands, the city of Randstad will be founded. So that's Amsterdam, The Hague, Haarlem, Utrecht, Rotterdam, Leiden and some more towns and city's, as one big metropolis. "Het groene hart"(translated: The green hart), will be the ''central parc'' of the Randstad. Now this is an area with a lot of farms, and the typical dutch landscape with windmills etc.. In my region (southern Netherlands, Limburg), my village (Meerssen) will be a part of the town of Maastricht. And there will be a new town, called Parkstad Limburg, with about 200,000 inhabitants.

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    Originally posted by: jackel.22
    Originally posted by: Compromise
    Originally posted by: paperboy15 @Amandine

    No more oil? You serious? There is PLENTY of oil left (Don't believe anything the media says...heheh). The only problem is that the price will continue to skyrocket. My theory is that the cost to drill for oil will rise and will render oil obsolete as a cost-effective energy source (Maybe not by 2050, but eventually). quote>

     

    It depends on if we find any more reserves and if the world will be willing to dig up Antarctica but most of the information I can find on the subject agree now that around 2050 to 2080 both oil and gas (not coal) will run out at the current rate of which we use it. 

    I agree with your theory, oil prices reaching uneconomic proportions will probably be the factor that will spell the end to the oil industry.quote>

    your forgetting that it is possible to gow petrole. it can quite easily be fabricated - well sort of. if you look  poor places in some countries such as brazil they actually use spirits to run their cars instead of petrole since its cheaper.

    although you wont get the same performance im pretty sure plants could be geneticly engineered to produce more highly flamable liquids when brewed to produce a 'systhesised' petrole.quote>

     

    Petrol is a type of oil which in turn is a type of fossil fuel. Fossil fuels are created from animal's and plants dying and decaying under pressure for thousands of years and so are nonrenewable resource, you sadly can't grow fossil fuels. 

    What your thinking of is a completely different type of fuel which can substitute petrol and yes I agree with you that it could play a big part in the transport of tomorrow.

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    Well, since I've already done a prediction for the world (see pg. 4 of this thread), and since several others have mentioned baseball, I'll do a prediction for the baseball world in 2050:

    2006: The Houston Astros finally exercise the last of their demons, defeating the Atlanta Braves in 4 games (NLDS), the New York Mets in 7 (NLCS, considered the best series ever), and finishes with a sweep of the Detroit Tigers (not as far-fetched as you might think)

    2008: The Florida Marlins finally give up on a deal for a stadium in South Florida, and accept San Antonio's offer for a new stadium. Barry Bonds, now the DH of the New York Yankees (followed the trail of money, to the tune of $30 million) hits his 756th HR, breaking the ML record. He retires at the end of the season, setting the record at 761.

    2010: The New York Yankees, despite having a record $513 million payroll, fail to even reach the playoffs (their payroll is so enormous, it is higher than the team value of over half the teams in the league!). Shortly thereafter, George Steinbrenner (Yankees owner, if you didn't know) is found dead at his home of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot to the head. Yankees fans claim he died due to conspiracy and murder. The team is later ordered disbanded by MLB and the franchise suspended for a season after its revealed that they failed horribly due to rampant drug use by every player on the team and most of the coaches.

    2011: The Marlins, now rechristened the San Antonio Toros,  move into their new $367 million stadium in 2011, after spending a season in Houston as the "guests" of the Astros. They win the World Series that same year, the first time a ML team won the championship their first year in a new city.

    2012: The Japanese Central and Pacific Leagues join MLB and begin playing regular season games against North American teams.

    2013-4: Due to the Civil War, which broke out early in 2013, play is suspended until order is restored. Play resumes in time for a shortened 2014 season, but several teams never take the field again.

    The teams lost (and cause):

    Washington Nationals (team destroyed in the nuclear attack on D.C.)

    New York Mets (Queens was obliterated, along with most of NYC (Bronx survived); the Yankees eventually resumed play after they rebuilt their stadium)

    Monterrey Banditos, Guadalajara Knights, and Azteca Mexico(City) (all Mexican teams were folded under orders from the Mexican government)

    San Francisco Giants (city was destroyed in an earthquake; tried to move to San Jose, but Oakland objected)

    Portland Pioneers (never played; expansion franchise withdrawn by league upon outbreak of war)

    Austin Firebirds (never played; franchise withdrawn by league after war ended after it was decided that Austin could no longer support a team)

    The league also severed ties to the Japanese Central and Pacific Leagues.

    2023-31: In protest of the actions of the Republic of Texas government, the Astros, Toros, and World Champion Rangers are forced out of the league by MLB, with the Rangers being stripped of their championship. All 3 teams are reinstated after the Texas-California-Mexico treaty is signed, and the Rangers' championship is restored.

    2046: The teams on the West Coast withdraw from MLB, citing an unfair balance in power  within the league and media bias in favor of the East Coast teams (such a surprise). They re-establish the Pacific Coast League (the AAA version folded during the war) and begin playing for the California Cup, the prize for the league champion. The league is renamed the Western League two years later, after Arizona, Colorado, Houston, Texas, and San Antonio defect from MLB.

    2049: The Western League replaces the National League as the American League's opponent in the World Series. The National League begins talks to be absorbed by the AL starting with the next season.

    2050: The National League, now reduced to 7 teams (all struggling to stay afloat), is formally disbanded. All the teams are absorbed into a reorganized American League, with the exception of the Chicago Cubs, who, at the insistence of the World Champion White Sox, are denied admission. After also being denied admission to the Western League, the Cubs are permanently disbanded, having never won the World Series again.

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    no disrepect taken.Im rather ashamed by our space program. they spend tons and tons of money on odd things like just recently a mission to crash a probe into the moon to see what the moon is composed of. Last time i checked we've actually been there and have moon rocks here on earth. why the heck do we need to, off all things crash a probe onto the moon to do this...

    I think thought that in russia the country will go through some sort of conflict eventually, even if it doesnt russia is just a ghost of its solviet self so i doubt they will do anything. China on the other hand, i really think that within the next 25 years they will on the moon.

    I think though that in the future that NASA will really only do their little experiments and do the bureacratic paperwork type stuff for companies with sattilites, really becoming the government agency in charge of space. I think the real exploration will be done by private companies, both american ones and european and far eastern ones. I think that the world center of space technology will probably be Las Vegas, it being the closest to large desert areas that are traditionally where that sort of thing is done.quote>

    I totally agree with you on that. Personally, I think the period of NASA is over. Privately owned enterprises are taking over the mission which is an excellent thing. Maybe the competition between enterprises will result in a lot of breakthroughs in space! Maybe if NASA does return to where it needs to be, we may have an even greater competition to watch.


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    2050 i dont think most of us will be here as military experts as well as historians say ww3 will hit in less then 20 to 30 years and they say a missle will hit the united states

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    I know one thing about 2050 - 'cars' will be absolutely hideous (have you seen what they look like nowadays - especially European ones). I was only born in 1990 and cars have modernised FAR too quickly - i mean I really miss those older cars 8.gif. I know alot of you may not agree but, i just thought i'd express me opinion. And, yes, petrol will definately no longer be around by 2050 - hopefullly a new, cleaner source of power will be found for cars by then (fingers crossed).

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    a big tampon invasion will take place in russia,but mankind is blended by their cute , fallic and fluffy look,so the tampon army from the planet queef234 will seize control of Mars and russia! ahahahahahah

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    cristians and bible say world burn in hell year 2013 -try a search at google (type in exodus 2006)

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    France  75 millions inh

    GPD per capita  150 000 €

    1 €  2050 =  6 €  2005

    Paris area 25 millions ihn

    10 m2 in Paris center  10 000 000  €

    West suburbs will have many skyscrapers over 400 m

    Subway 20 lines 600 stations

    RER 15 line 596 stations

    Paris will have a terrible traffic ( worth than now ) 

    4  crowded beltway 

    Lyon  area 22 million inh             

    10 m2 in Lyon Center    5 000 000 €

    Many skyscraper over 200 m in Lyon center

     Lyon Subway  19  lines  726 stations

    RER ( yes in 2050 Lyon has a RER )  6 lines 310 stations

    terrible traffic 

    Marseille include in Lyon area

    Marseille subway 5 lines 95 stations

    RER  19 lines 726 stations ( same than Lyon )

    Lille area 16 millions include (Brussel Belgium 2.gif In France 10 millions inh  

    in Belgium  6 millions inh

    10 m2 in Lille center  1 500 000 €

    Lille subway 5 lines 100 stations

    RER  10 lines 315 stations 

    terrible traffic

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