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[JeffSalisbury 59]

I've come across a few more growables that require files that were only available on SC4D that I'm hoping someone (probably Tarkus) can help with. I've put the links to the specific growables (and one plop) below:

(I understand this one has a ton of dependencies and could be quite labour-intensive to put together)

It appears I also need this one .dat file: BSC BAT Props - Mattb325 Vol02.dat (apologies if this is already part of the large BSC Common Dependencies Pack).

I'm also hoping to get all of the SM2 packs (SM2 Essentials and all SM2 Mega Prop Packs) as they're needed for pretty well all of Simmer2's growables and ploppables.

Thanks again for any help.

[gwada971 1,891]

@JeffSalisbury  Hi, all SM2 Mega Prop Pack (6 files) and SM2 Essentials are on STEX, see Simmer2's account in Files page 2-4-6 and 10

[JeffSalisbury 59]

Oh, fantastic! I'd only ever seen links to SC4D for all of those files.

Also, French West Indies? Are you in Guadeloupe or Martinique?

[gwada971 1,891]

@JeffSalisbury  In Guadeloupe.

[JeffSalisbury 59]

Would anyone happen to have the collection of Simmer2's dependency files? He's made so many great Industrial growables but from what I can tell only the 6th volume of his Mega Prop Packs is available on the STEX. Also, the S2 Essentials pack doesn't appear to be on the STEX either.

I'm also looking for the Girafe Car Packs Vols. 1 & 2.

[gwada971 1,891]

@JeffSalisbury  Hi, apparently my answer wasn't enough! So here are the links for the Mega Props Pack!

 

https://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/32979-sm2-essentials-v4/

https://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/32980-sm2-mega-prop-pack-vol1/

https://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/32981-sm2-mega-prop-pack-vol2/

https://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/32982-sm2-mega-prop-pack-vol3/

https://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/33304-sm2-mega-prop-pack-vol4/

https://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/34316-sm2-mega-prop-pack-vol5/

https://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/34872-sm2-mega-prop-pack-vol6/

 

 

[Tyberius06 12,189]

16 minutes ago, JeffSalisbury said:

Would anyone happen to have the collection of Simmer2's dependency files? He's made so many great Industrial growables but from what I can tell only the 6th volume of his Mega Prop Packs is available on the STEX. Also, the S2 Essentials pack doesn't appear to be on the STEX either.

I'm also looking for the Girafe Car Packs Vols. 1 & 2.

All of Simmer2's creations have been rehosted on STEX a while ago (when SC4D LEX started struggling a few years ago). If you are browsing his account and uploaded files you should find all these contents as they are here on STEX. 

The Girafe Car packs are in the BSC Common Dependency Pack

 

[JeffSalisbury 59]

Weird because I went through all his uploads and obviously completely missed these. 

I hang my head in shame regardless.

Neither of you would happen to have any of the Mattb325 prop packs, would you?

[Tyberius06 12,189]

59 minutes ago, JeffSalisbury said:

Neither of you would happen to have any of the Mattb325 prop packs, would you?

BSC Common Dependency Pack

You can find some of the common Mattb325 prop packs (BSC BAT Props Mattb325 vol01-vol03 and the Mattb325 Prop pack vol04 and some others) in that pack.

[Aurelien25 6]

Hi, is there a way to change buildings names ? Because sometime when you change it work until you save and reload, then the former name is back...

[SIM-ple Jack 17,444]

13 minutes ago, Aurelien25 said:

Hi, is there a way to change buildings names ? Because sometime when you change it work until you save and reload, then the former name is back...

You can change a building's(lot) name permanently, in a variety of programs- ILives, SC4Tool, and LEProp. I think the only things you can rename in game are parks, at least, throughout the game play. Of course, by typing it in the header bar.

[Aurelien25 6]

I have an issue with some files from SPA when i use the instaler. The files does not show ! Is there a way to unzip the intaler to get the file and install it manualy ?

The files I need  

from spa : Elmwood Apartments, Five Fishermen, Church Street Apartments ,Halifax Boxes, Dundas Terrace

From simgoober : RLS Homes Suburban Collection

[rsc204 21,808]

https://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/760290-rejoice-clickteam-installers-need-no-longer-annoy-you/

[Aurelien25 6]

Thanks ! it worked 

[Turnstyled 486]

I shared in this thread some time ago that the TGV mod from Girafe was producing a single TGV engine on roads. It looked like it was picking people up as if it were a bus! There are a lot of engines in that download and I don't have it in me to modify the NAM train controller to have them all show up. My guess is that with all the engines present, the game was getting confused. I switched to the ToutSimCities TER train.

[Turnstyled 486]

I was having a lot of fun with tram in road today. What is the correct procedure to create tram in road? I dragged a road and then, I placed elevated rail on each individual road tile because dragging elevated rail on top of roads had tended to create elevated rail. Also, I was having great difficulty creating tram in road within road intersections. Where the dotted lines represent tram rails and the solid lines represent roads, how would the following image be created? I was not able to create it. I was able to create three- and four-way intersections where the tram rails remained parallel and did not curve; however. Thank you so much.

  Edited August 30, 2023 by Turnstyled  
Added some words for clarity and changed instance of "square" to "tile"

[CaptCity 4,752]

5 hours ago, Turnstyled said:

I was having a lot of fun with tram in road today. What is the correct procedure to create tram in road? I dragged a road and then, I placed elevated rail on each individual road tile because dragging elevated rail on top of roads had tended to create elevated rail. Also, I was having great difficulty creating tram in road within road intersections. Where the dotted lines represent tram rails and the solid lines represent roads, how would the following image be created? I was not able to create it. I was able to create three- and four-way intersections where the tram rails remained parallel and did not curve; however. Thank you so much.

If I'm understanding your question correctly, you can use the El Rail tool to create Tram-in-Road for straight sections and curves. But for more specific things like intersections, you'll need to use the Tram-in-Road puzzle pieces in the Misc. Transit menu.

Example:

The El Rail tool was used to create the straight sections (there are also puzzle pieces for it). Then the intersection piece was used:

 

 

[Turnstyled 486]

@CaptCity That's it! Thank you! I was trying to switch puzzle pieces not remembering that the Tab key was the way to do that. I was using Insert and Delete.

It turned out that I had two different passenger trains in my plugins folder. I don't know if that at all could have caused my issues with the TGV being on roads, but it's okay. I'm past that. I realized this after I saw several engines following the ToutSimCities TER train.

I have another question. I see that Low capacity for the NAM transit simulator is recommended, and that it's in line with the original Maxis settings. I want to worry less about traffic and congestion. I know that choosing Ultra capacity won't solve all of my issues. Is there any real detriment to selecting a capacity higher than Low, other than it being less realistic? Thank you once again.

[matias93 7,535]

8 hours ago, Turnstyled said:

@CaptCity That's it! Thank you! I was trying to switch puzzle pieces not remembering that the Tab key was the way to do that. I was using Insert and Delete.

It turned out that I had two different passenger trains in my plugins folder. I don't know if that at all could have caused my issues with the TGV being on roads, but it's okay. I'm past that. I realized this after I saw several engines following the ToutSimCities TER train.

I have another question. I see that Low capacity for the NAM transit simulator is recommended, and that it's in line with the original Maxis settings. I want to worry less about traffic and congestion. I know that choosing Ultra capacity won't solve all of my issues. Is there any real detriment to selecting a capacity higher than Low, other than it being less realistic? Thank you once again.

The improved traffic simulator was designed to be able to manage most cities in the Low setting without getting a total traffic collapse, by only improving the distribution of transit infrastructure. Swapping the setting for a higher one is basically like going down a difficulty level, but it's also recommended if you're building a particularly dense city, either with lots of skyscrapers or with many dilapidated buildings (which get more overcrowded than the non-dilapidated ones). I personally use the High setting because my city is quite dense and I'm trying to have just a little proportion of rich sims, so overcrowding will be an issue.

[Turnstyled 486]

54 minutes ago, matias93 said:

The improved traffic simulator was designed to be able to manage most cities in the Low setting without getting a total traffic collapse, by only improving the distribution of transit infrastructure. Swapping the setting for a higher one is basically like going down a difficulty level, but it's also recommended if you're building a particularly dense city, either with lots of skyscrapers or with many dilapidated buildings (which get more overcrowded than the non-dilapidated ones). I personally use the High setting because my city is quite dense and I'm trying to have just a little proportion of rich sims, so overcrowding will be an issue.

Thank you so much. I don't try to make art. The PEG Utopian Series vertical farms really stick out when I play. I just try to have fun. Fun for me IS making things very dense. I'll keep the Ultra setting.

[Turnstyled 486]

I'd like to start using the CAM. I'd like to use it with the Skyscraper preset. I read "The CAM (Colossus Addon Mod) – Separating Fact From Fiction" on the SimTarkus blog. I also use the IRM and the SPAM, as well as Fantozzi's Colossus Farming (I'm currently not using the later growth stages of Colossus Farming because I understand that they will not grow without the CAM.) I understand that I'll have to use the CAM-compatible IRM from Shadowstrike.

I don't have it in me to adjust every industrial lot that I use to be IRM-compatible and I also don't have it in me to adjust every single growable that I use to be CAM-compatible. This is why I don't use the Industry Quadrupler by toroca. If I used the Industry Quadrupler, then I find that it would be beneficial to edit each individual non-quadrupled lot to match the overhauled Maxis lots that make up the IRM because there would be greater industrial variety. Even though the IRM lots have larger footprints than the Maxis industrial lots, it is my understanding that I would see less industrial variety by using the Industry Quadrupler without editing each individual lot because of the increased number of jobs that would be available in the IRM lots by using the Industry Quadrupler.

What kind of side effects can I expect from having such a mix of IRM-compatible lots and non-IRM-compatible lots, as well as CAM-compatible lots and non-CAM-compatible lots? Thank you so much.

[Ulisse Wolf 4,412]

1 hour ago, Turnstyled said:

I'd like to start using the CAM. I'd like to use it with the Skyscraper preset. I read "The CAM (Colossus Addon Mod) – Separating Fact From Fiction" on the SimTarkus blog. I also use the IRM and the SPAM, as well as Fantozzi's Colossus Farming (I'm currently not using the later growth stages of Colossus Farming because I understand that they will not grow without the CAM.) I understand that I'll have to use the CAM-compatible IRM from Shadowstrike.

I don't have it in me to adjust every industrial lot that I use to be IRM-compatible and I also don't have it in me to adjust every single growable that I use to be CAM-compatible. This is why I don't use the Industry Quadrupler by toroca. If I used the Industry Quadrupler, then I find that it would be beneficial to edit each individual non-quadrupled lot to match the overhauled Maxis lots that make up the IRM because there would be greater industrial variety. Even though the IRM lots have larger footprints than the Maxis industrial lots, it is my understanding that I would see less industrial variety by using the Industry Quadrupler without editing each individual lot because of the increased number of jobs that would be available in the IRM lots by using the Industry Quadrupler.

What kind of side effects can I expect from having such a mix of IRM-compatible lots and non-IRM-compatible lots, as well as CAM-compatible lots and non-CAM-compatible lots? Thank you so much.

First if you are using SPAM and you need to install CAM then first you have to uninstall SPAM because CAM and SPAM are not compatible with each other. You can only use one of these two.

If you have a mix of IRM lots and no IRM lots then nothing critical happens. You will have lots that will grow both on the medium density industrial zone and high density industrial zone.

For the question of CAM lots and NO CAM lots there is not a big problem. NO CAM lots will grow normally within Maxis stage. Some lots will have Maxis stats while others have CAM stats. So there is no problem to use an IRM - NO IRM mix. Same thing with a CAM - NO CAM mix

If you want there is a list of CAM & CAMpatible mods that is constantly updated 

 

[Turnstyled 486]

@Ulisse Wolf Thank you so much. I will remove the SPAM. I suppose that Colossus Farming will work for me as far as agriculture goes. Thank you for the link.

Edit: I hope that my question wasn't too wordy. Sometimes, I rack my brain trying to word these things because I work my mind through the question.

[Turnstyled 486]

I foudn this very helpful post regarding SPAM vs. CAM by @rsc204 :

If I use Colossus Farming and the SPAM Core Lots with CAM and without PEG-SPAM_MOD-MAIN_b200.dat, would that work? Thank you once again. I'm so grateful for all of the help that I've been getting. I really like the SPAM Core Lots.

  Edited September 3, 2023 by Turnstyled  
Removed an unnecessary sentence about capacities

[rsc204 21,808]

4 hours ago, Turnstyled said:

I foudn this very helpful post regarding SPAM vs. CAM

Bear in mind that post from 2016 and likely is only relevant for v1 of CAM.

Using the SPAM farms (lots) with CAM is possible, but you need to extract the relevant data because much of it is packed together with simulator changes that you definitely do not want present when using CAM. However, since the original Maxis farms are overwritten by both mods, I.e. they use the same IDs, installing the SPAM ones would replace the CAMified Maxis ones. That shouldn’t be an issue, since you wanted the SPAM overrides, right? The last problem, you should run all the lots through PIM-X to ensure they have the right stats to work with other CAM content correctly. Basically mirroring the changes made to the Maxis farms for the SPAM replacements.

[nos.17 5,120]

15 hours ago, Turnstyled said:

I'd like to start using the CAM.

...

I don't have it in me to adjust every industrial lot that I use to be IRM-compatible and I also don't have it in me to adjust every single growable that I use to be CAM-compatible.

I have made significant progress CAMifying all of the IRM expansion content but never ended up releasing it for a few reasons. However, it's been awhile and I haven't been able to make developments with what I wanted to originally, so I think I'll just release it anyways soon.

(also @Ulisse Wolf )

 

[Turnstyled 486]

12 hours ago, rsc204 said:

Using the SPAM farms (lots) with CAM is possible, but you need to extract the relevant data because much of it is packed together with simulator changes that you definitely do not want present when using CAM. However, since the original Maxis farms are overwritten by both mods, I.e. they use the same IDs, installing the SPAM ones would replace the CAMified Maxis ones. That shouldn’t be an issue, since you wanted the SPAM overrides, right? The last problem, you should run all the lots through PIM-X to ensure they have the right stats to work with other CAM content correctly. Basically mirroring the changes made to the Maxis farms for the SPAM replacements.

Thank you so much. I'll take a look at it all soon. I'm not certain that I have it in me to do all that, so I might stick to Colossus Farming. I know that the Colossus Farming readme says to use a Maxis Farms blocker with Colossus Farming. I suppose that the relevant file in DuskTrooper's Block ALL Maxis Buildings would do.

[QuantumChicken 82]

Does SimCity 4 support 3DFX Glide? I also have a GeForce FX 5500 PCI 256 MB if that does not work. I am running this game off of my Windows 98SE machine with 2GB DRAM because I have lost my patience with windows 11 and it's Vista-level bugs and incompatibilities.

[TogaMasterJohn 705]

2 hours ago, KillrChicken said:

Does SimCity 4 support 3DFX Glide? I also have a GeForce FX 5500 PCI 256 MB if that does not work. I am running this game off of my Windows 98SE machine with 2GB DRAM because I have lost my patience with windows 11 and it's Vista-level bugs and incompatibilities.

"Retro" PC enthusiast here!

Regarding 3DFx Glide support, as far as I know of, no. However, I believe it is possible to run the game on certain Voodoo cards. Which Voodoo card do you have?  According to the notes in the game's Graphics Rules.sgr file, the game apparently works with the Banshee, although you'll need to turn off the color cursor (if the game doesn't already detect the card). The game requires at least 16 MB of VRAM - however, some have gotten it to work with just 8 MB of VRAM (low settings all around, of course).

Honestly, unless you want to see how it runs on the Voodoo for fun (if it can even run it), you would most likely experience better performance with the GeForce card instead.

Also, out of curiosity, what processor is in your W98 machine?

While I prefer playing this game on a higher end system aka newer hardware, I still find it fun to play on older hardware from time to time... which is what I grew up with! 

[QuantumChicken 82]

11 minutes ago, TogaMasterJohn said:

"Retro" PC enthusiast here!

Regarding 3DFx Glide support, as far as I know of, no. However, I believe it is possible to run the game on certain Voodoo cards. Which Voodoo card do you have?  According to the notes in the game's Graphics Rules.sgr file, the game apparently works with the Banshee, although you'll need to turn off the color cursor (if the game doesn't already detect the card). The game requires at least 16 MB of VRAM - however, some have gotten it to work with just 8 MB of VRAM (low settings all around, of course).

Honestly, unless you want to see how it runs on the Voodoo for fun (if it can even run it), you would most likely experience better performance with the GeForce card instead.

Also, out of curiosity, what processor is in your W98 machine?

While I prefer playing this game on a higher end system aka newer hardware, I still find it fun to play on older hardware from time to time... which is what I grew up with! 

I have a Voodoo 2 addon accelerator which is connected to my GeForce FX 5500. I have a 1.4GHz Pentium 4, will be upgrading to a 2.8Ghz. And yes, I have a patch that makes win98se be able to see 4GB DRAM and a patch that makes the OS see 2TB partition. But yea, I mainly use this machine with my SB AWE32, SBAWE64 Gold, a TerraTec DMX Classic, and an SB PCI 128. I plan to build a beastly 19-slot industrial ISA/PCI setup for Win98se with 2G ram and a 3.2Ghz Petium 4.