NAM General Support

[carrode 0]

Hi all first time poster hope this is the right place if not forgive me 

starting playing sc4 a couple of month's ago and really like it and now getting into the realism side of things

my prob which has more than likely been solved a long time ago but can't find any info on it is.

i have the LHD version installed but all road marking's that are included in the NAM 31.2 are displaying for RHD.

so far i have re-installed nam, cleared out and deleted the plugins folder and today i completely uninstalled

anything and everything got to do with sc4 and done a clean reinstall of sc4 deluxe with a "complete standard Install" of  NAM 31.2 after making sure it was set to LHD.

 

any and all help will be gratefully received.

[GeometryMath Algebra 614]

Hi all first time poster hope this is the right place if not forgive me 

starting playing sc4 a couple of month's ago and really like it and now getting into the realism side of things

my prob which has more than likely been solved a long time ago but can't find any info on it is.

i have the LHD version installed but all road marking's that are included in the NAM 31.2 are displaying for RHD.

so far i have re-installed nam, cleared out and deleted the plugins folder and today i completely uninstalled

anything and everything got to do with sc4 and done a clean reinstall of sc4 deluxe with a "complete standard Install" of  NAM 31.2 after making sure it was set to LHD.

 

any and all help will be gratefully received.

But the pathing is fine, right? Probably they haven't made a proper texture for the LHD TuLEPs(?).

[CaptCity 4,756]

...I have the LHD version installed but all road marking's that are included in the NAM 31.2 are displaying for RHD...

...done a clean reinstall of sc4 deluxe with a "complete standard Install" of  NAM 31.2 after making sure it was set to LHD.

 

Did you try selecting the Left-Hand game option in the NAM Custom Installation menu under Traffic Driving Side?

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

That's what he said.  I think we need more information about his game and his system.

[CaptCity 4,756]

Yes, however, the LHD option is not under the "Complete Standard Install" but under the "Custom Install;" more clarification is needed.

[carrode 0]

Hi guys thanks for taking the time to ans me. now the excuse the following it's a bit long winded.

if the option is not listed i have not selected it.

i'm running win7 64bit with 8gb of ram and over 200gb free space all up to date patches etc both hardware and software.

 

Again Thanks Very much for all the help.

 

Nam 31.2 Setup

 

Traffic Driving Side (game traffic drives on left side of road)

 

Traffic Simulator and related options (Nam Traffic Simulator Medium,New Zones Data View)

 

Nam Networks and Network Expansions 

1\ Canal Addon Mod (SimGoober's Canals)

2\ Diagonal Streets

3\ Double-Heights Monrail / Bullet train Mod

4\ El Rail (El rail over Road Networks, Double-Height Elevated Rail)

5\ Elevated Road Networks

6\ Flexible Underpasses 

7\ Fractionally Angled Networks

8\ Ground Light Rail/Tram (Ground Light Rail, Tram in Ave, Tram in Road, Tram in Street)

9\ High Speed Rail Project

10\ Network Widening Mod

11\ Ped Malls

12\ Rail

13\ Real Highway Mod

14\ Rual Roads plugin

15\ Street Addon Mod

 

Stations Ports and Network Transitions

1\ Maxis Airports (Medium Capacity Airports)

2\ El Rail Stations ( Victorian El Rail (Orthogonal, Diagonal), Modern El Train Station, Diagonal El Rail Station, Double-Height El Rail Station,

El Rail over Road Stations (CTA Madison and Wells Station, Overhanging El Rail over Road Station)

3\ Elevated Roadway Stations

4\ GLR and Tram Stations (GLR Stations (SFBT Dentai GLR Station (Orthogonal, Diagonal) Tram Stations

5\ High Speed Rail Stations ( Modern Arched HSR & GHSR) Diag HSR Station, Overhanging HSR Station, HSRP Transit Hub)

6\ Monorail and Bullet Train Stations

7\ Multi-Purpose Stations

8\ Network Transitions and Connectors

9\ Rail Stations (Modern Arched Station, Viaduct Rail Stations (Modern Viaduct Rail Station, Overhaing, Diagonal Station, Victorian Viaduct Orth and Diag))

 

Additioinal Features and Customizations

1\ Additional Bridges (Basic Additional Bridges, Avenue, El Rail, El Highway, Ground Highway, High Speed Rail, Monorail Bridges)

Railway Bridges (all selected with bridge structure selected in Wooden Trestle Single Track Rail Bridge)

Real Highway Bridges, Road Bridges, Rural Street and Rail Bridges, Street Bridges, Tram in Street Bridges, 

2\ Bridge Height Mod

3\ Custom Menu Icon Layouts

4\ Extended Station Queries

5\ Hole Diggers and Ground Raisers

6\ Maxis Highway Interchange & Ramp Additions

7\ Rail Texture Style (Darker textures by SFBT)

8\ Rail Viaduct Style (Grey Rocks)

9\ Road Textures and Markings (Main road Texture Style (Retextured Standard Road Texture (american style)

10\ Roundabouts and Other Interchanges

11\ Turning Lanes

12\ Wide Radius Curves 

 

 

 

0 files moved by cleanitol.

 

No Traffic Simulator Tool intalled.

 

Followed by a reboot. (just to be sure)

 

ran small simulation with ave and roads and when using the OWR clicking on the intersections produces left hand drive turing lanes with proper markings

 

put down small strech of RHW 6C and RHW 8C and used both cosmetic transitions 8c to 6c and a 6c ramp (entrance and exit) and lane markings are for RHD.?????

 

if you want i can post pic of plugin fld if that hleps.

 

As for RHW traffic drives on the Left so all good there.

[GeometryMath Algebra 614]

Pathing error at the RHW-8C cosmetic pieces

Fixable by attachment?

[CaptCity 4,756]

 

Hi guys thanks for taking the time to ans me. now the excuse the following it's a bit long winded.

if the option is not listed i have not selected it.

i'm running win7 64bit with 8gb of ram and over 200gb free space all up to date patches etc both hardware and software.

 

Again Thanks Very much for all the help.

 

Nam 31.2 Setup

...

9\ Road Textures and Markings (Main road Texture Style (Retextured Standard Road Texture (american style)

...

 

Not on my regular computer now, so I can't check, but you may not want to select that option for a left-hand game.

 

Hmmm... Tried my left-hand game with the same settings. It does appear that the RHW cosmetic pieces have the 'right-hand' textures with 'left-hand' paths. Even tried some of the Euro texture options on the NAM installation.

[Wiimeiser 444]

I can drag NWM under L1 RHW no problem, but if I put MIS anywhere nearby it deconverts. Haven't tried L2. Seems to be an issue with stability, as NWM doesn't appear to support more than two consecutive intersections.

[michaeldcannaday 42]

I have uploaded the new NAM 31.2 from NAM 31 and now my TuLEP along with highway interchanges don't work..it appears as useable but when I click to use those options in my game, it just shows as a red arrow, even when I click the tab button to go to all the options.  I have no idea where I went wrong.  I've used the custom upload when upgrading to NAM 31.2     Any pointers??

 

[jdenm8 362]

Sounds like there's an old controller version knocking around. Do a Binary Search (Remove one half, see if the problem persists, etc) on your plugins folder to find it.

[aussie_1825 0]

Hi, was advised to post this here.

 

Basically I'm having a problem with the High Elevated Rail bridge, in that it is not displaying correctly.  The screenshots would explain it better than I could.  I'm using NAM 31.2.

 

The first screenshot shows the bridge selection screen.  Hopefully the text is clear enough, but it does say 'High Elevated Rail Bridge (30m)', but as you can see, it appears to be using the normal bridge models and also appears to be missing pylons.

 

 

The second screenshot shows the bridge after it's been built.

 

 

Does anyone know how to correct this issue?

[Tarkus 6,932]

First of all, the 30m/High Elevated bridge is supposed to hook into the 30m/High Elevated puzzle pieces, not the regular draggable Elevated Rail network.  Beyond that, it looks like you're using the ML El-Rail Facelift option, which, from the looks of things, may not support that bridge properly.

 

-Tarkus

[aussie_1825 0]

I found and removed the ML El-Rail files, but there's no change in the visuals.  Thing is, I don't ever recall downloading that mod, and it was found in the z__NAM folder.  Also, I've looked everywhere in the NAM documentation and for youtube videos on how to make a high el-rail bridge without using the normal draggable, but I simply can not find any instructions on how to do that.  Are there instructions somewhere?

[CaptCity 4,756]

Moonlight's mod is an optional item when installing the NAM and is placed in the Z__NAM folder. Perhaps you selected it without realizing it. I think it's called the Alternative El Rail option or something like that. If I remember correctly, the mod didn't support that bridge. Even prior to NAM31, the bridge would appear as above.

 

For a high El Rail bridge, you do use the standard El Rail tool to drag and select the bridge. However, after dragging the bridge, you can use the High EL Rail pieces (straight pylon or no pylon pieces and the High-to-Standard transition piece) found further down in the Misc. Trans. menu to link up with the El Rail network.

 

[aussie_1825 0]

Thanks for explaining how to do it.  This is what I've got after removing the Alternative El Rail folder.

 

 

It's almost like it's missing the model for the pylons.

[Indiana Joe 1,750]

Looks like somehow you missed installing that bridge.  Re-run the NAM installer and make sure you have any bridge options selected.

[aussie_1825 0]

Thanks, that worked.  I noticed when running the installer that the 'Basic Additional Bridges' option wasn't checked, so that must have been it.

 

Also, as an experiment, I ran the installer again and selected Moonlights El-Rail option and confirmed that that also causes graphical oddities (ground texture and support pylons floating in mid air under the bridge). 

[bmhal100 0]

Hi all,

 

Quick question -- is it possible to place FLUPS underground puzzle pieces under monorail and SAM tiles?

[Indiana Joe 1,750]

I know those pieces don't exist for all the SAM networks.  I would think there is a monorail piece, but I don't know off the top of my head.  If it isn't in the FLUPs menu, it won't be anywhere else.

 

I think SAM pieces would be easy enough to make.  Copy the 'under-street' piece and change the texture.  That only takes a little bit modding knowledge.

[carrode 0]

 

 

Hi guys thanks for taking the time to ans me. now the excuse the following it's a bit long winded.

if the option is not listed i have not selected it.

i'm running win7 64bit with 8gb of ram and over 200gb free space all up to date patches etc both hardware and software.

 

Again Thanks Very much for all the help.

 

Nam 31.2 Setup

...

9\ Road Textures and Markings (Main road Texture Style (Retextured Standard Road Texture (american style)

...

 

Not on my regular computer now, so I can't check, but you may not want to select that option for a left-hand game.

 

Hmmm... Tried my left-hand game with the same settings. It does appear that the RHW cosmetic pieces have the 'right-hand' textures with 'left-hand' paths. Even tried some of the Euro texture options on the NAM installation.

 

Sorry to be a pain in the A, but any idea's of how to fix this hiccup?????

 

thanks.

[z1 566]

 

 

 

Hi guys thanks for taking the time to ans me. now the excuse the following it's a bit long winded.

if the option is not listed i have not selected it.

i'm running win7 64bit with 8gb of ram and over 200gb free space all up to date patches etc both hardware and software.

 

Again Thanks Very much for all the help.

 

Nam 31.2 Setup

...

9\ Road Textures and Markings (Main road Texture Style (Retextured Standard Road Texture (american style)

...

 

Not on my regular computer now, so I can't check, but you may not want to select that option for a left-hand game.

 

Hmmm... Tried my left-hand game with the same settings. It does appear that the RHW cosmetic pieces have the 'right-hand' textures with 'left-hand' paths. Even tried some of the Euro texture options on the NAM installation.

 

Sorry to be a pain in the A, but any idea's of how to fix this hiccup?????

 

thanks.

 

 

This appears to be an installer bug.  It appears that the installer is installing the correct files for the Euro textures, but I'll have to verify that they work; could you also please try the Euro textures?  In any case, the LHD textures are not installed unless the Euro textures are selected, and this is wrong.  (For example, you'd want the American-style textures with LHD for Japan.)  This will be fixed for NAM 32.

[bmhal100 0]

I know those pieces don't exist for all the SAM networks.  I would think there is a monorail piece, but I don't know off the top of my head.  If it isn't in the FLUPs menu, it won't be anywhere else.

 

I think SAM pieces would be easy enough to make.  Copy the 'under-street' piece and change the texture.  That only takes a little bit modding knowledge.

Thanks, Joe -- that's the information I needed!

[carrode 0]

 

 

 

 

Hi guys thanks for taking the time to ans me. now the excuse the following it's a bit long winded.

if the option is not listed i have not selected it.

i'm running win7 64bit with 8gb of ram and over 200gb free space all up to date patches etc both hardware and software.

 

Again Thanks Very much for all the help.

 

Nam 31.2 Setup

...

9\ Road Textures and Markings (Main road Texture Style (Retextured Standard Road Texture (american style)

...

 

Not on my regular computer now, so I can't check, but you may not want to select that option for a left-hand game.

 

Hmmm... Tried my left-hand game with the same settings. It does appear that the RHW cosmetic pieces have the 'right-hand' textures with 'left-hand' paths. Even tried some of the Euro texture options on the NAM installation.

 

Sorry to be a pain in the A, but any idea's of how to fix this hiccup?????

 

thanks.

 

 

This appears to be an installer bug.  It appears that the installer is installing the correct files for the Euro textures, but I'll have to verify that they work; could you also please try the Euro textures?  In any case, the LHD textures are not installed unless the Euro textures are selected, and this is wrong.  (For example, you'd want the American-style textures with LHD for Japan.)  This will be fixed for NAM 32.

 

thanks for the response but have tried with just "standard euro road textures" and "euro road textures-single solid line" with RHW "uk markings for the RHW" and "Irish/South African markings for the RHW" after uninstalling the NAM both times but with the same result of RHD textures on the RHW.

any other ideas????

[GeometryMath Algebra 614]

I've heard that someone has successfully installed the NAM on an illegally downloaded copy of SimCity 4. What he did is he applied the 1.1.638 and 1.1.640 patches but didn't crack the exe. He just mounted the 2nd disc via DAEMON Tools and that made the game bypass the "Please insert disc on CD-ROM" error. Any plan for the NAM installer to detect and delete a mounted ISO in the future?

[Durfsurn 539]

Ah but someone like me has had to copy the files from my SC4 disc onto a daemon tools drive because my disc was dying. If this is illegal I was not aware and promptly buy a new copy of SC4 preferably off Steam.

[z1 566]

thanks for the response but have tried with just "standard euro road textures" and "euro road textures-single solid line" with RHW "uk markings for the RHW" and "Irish/South African markings for the RHW" after uninstalling the NAM both times but with the same result of RHD textures on the RHW.

any other ideas????

 

I will have to look into this further; one way or another, it will be fixed for NAM 32.  I'll respond back here if I need more information.

 

I've heard that someone has successfully installed the NAM on an illegally downloaded copy of SimCity 4. What he did is he applied the 1.1.638 and 1.1.640 patches but didn't crack the exe. He just mounted the 2nd disc via DAEMON Tools and that made the game bypass the "Please insert disc on CD-ROM" error. Any plan for the NAM installer to detect and delete a mounted ISO in the future?

 

Contrary to the belief of many, EA has not hired the NAM Team to police the usage of their software.  The fact that pirated copies of SC4 don't work with the current version of the NAM is simple a side effect of the fact that the NAM installer now requires SC4 to be fully up-to-date with patches before installing the NAM.  The fact that this generally is not possible with pirated versions of SC4 is not considered to be a bug by us.  So no, there are no plans for the NAM installer to detect and delete a mounted ISO in the future.

 

Ah but someone like me has had to copy the files from my SC4 disc onto a daemon tools drive because my disc was dying. If this is illegal I was not aware and promptly buy a new copy of SC4 preferably off Steam.

 

It's not clear to me whether this case is technically illegal or not.  Whether or not you buy a version from Steam, you're running diskless either way, using (presumably) a fully paid-for copy of SC4.  If you want to be really safe, you could always just burn your Daemon Tools copy onto a new disk; then you'd just be replacing a (legal) defective disk with one that works, and I don't see how there could possibly be any problem with that.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

If you have purchased the CD version from a proper vendor and your install key works, then you can do whatever you like to backup the software.  Setting up the play disk as a virtual disk using appropriate software is a form of backup, so having such a VCD mounted at play time is merely a convenience.  Additional software for the VCD is usually required to convince Windows that the VCD is a mounted CD.

[Fargo 543]

Is DDRHW broken in the current NAM?

[Tarkus 6,932]

Is DDRHW broken in the current NAM?

 

No, but it's RHW-based now, and there is a minor issue with the starter piece.  We've flipped the majority of the starter pieces across the board on the NAM draggable items to use the "vanishing construction lot", so you no longer have to bulldoze the puzzle piece "handle".  However, the IID reference on the DDRHW starter still refers to a non-vanishing "handle", which, as it no longer has a model, appears to be vanishing, but actually isn't.

 

Try bulldozing both behind and in front of the DDRHW starter piece, and then drag RHW through it.  That should address the issue.  I've already corrected the starter to become properly vanishing for NAM 32.

 

-Tarkus