BAT - Troubleshooting & General Discussion

[SimFox 802]

Originally posted by: LivingInThePast

@Simfox:

I know that manipulation of shapes is possible (obviously) and the copying of 2D shapes.

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yet you asked it...

Originally posted by: LivingInThePast

... and the text here is almost a direct export of what I was going to port...quote>

wHaT?!?

Originally posted by: LivingInThePast

henceforth,quote>

oh my!

Originally posted by: LivingInThePast

that's why I referred to things that were in the BAT thread but not here (i.e. "the overhang")

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Drop all the long words... What you write is incomprehensible! It can only be glanced through... but if one tries to read it seriously and make sense of it ... well, I certainly can't. Anyone?

Originally posted by: LivingInThePast

Second: I was wondering if it was easier to just try to copy the proportions of the original footprint of the building, cut off the "overhang" length (which was to occupy part of the building) and then put that in as the "main building" length, OR just try to delete the box I made for the main building and just try to copy and paste a new 2D shape (which I wasn't 100% sure how to do, and was wondering if it was more than just Ctrl-V).

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I can't make any sense of what exactly you are trying to say. All words individually are simple enough and have unambiguous meaning. Yet together they just don't make any sense.

What exactly " copy the proportions of the original footprint of the building" mean? And what does "put that in as the "main building" length" mean?

What is "copy and paste a new 2D shape" where are you going to copy it from? and paste into what? You can clone any object in GMAX, is that what you're using? But this object must already be in GMAX. Besides the sentence "copy and paste a new" is absurd. If you have copied something when you pasting it it is by definition could be new, for God sake.... you've already copied it!

BTW GMAX has Help file. Have you tried to download and read it through?

Originally posted by: LivingInThePast

So, is what you're saying is to just post these in my own thread (seen below, in the signature), even if it does mean bumping? Or is there something else wrong?quote>

Yes this is exactly what I'm saying - don't you see how your questions here are totally different than everyone else's? Here is place for problem with the program, not your abilities. By spaming it you just make it more difficult for those who do have real program issues to find potential answers.

[LivingInThePast 364]

Oh yes, I meant by "export what I was going to port" was that I was going to PUT what I wrote on my OWN BAT thread. Sorry about that.

I didn't mean to frustrate you, really!

[Xyloxadoria 1,099]

I have a problem with reflections on my building and i cant figure out what is casuing it. I am using a dome that is only visible to refections to reflect off my windows which are Arch&Design glass. It comptlely sourrunds the entire building. No matter what i do refections will only show up on one side of the building (south side) If i rotate the building it will still only show up on the south side. All the other sides show plain blue instead of reflecting my texture.

Does anyone know what would be casuing this? i would like  to use refections on this building.

Here is a picture of the north side of the building where the refections dont work (i have not textured the rest of the building yet)

[SimFox 802]

May I ask you why do you use a dome?

It must be something to do with it. But generally it is a bad idea. I'm actually far more surprised the anything is reflected at all. Cause it shouldn't - laws of physics!

[Aldender 15]

I'm a first time BAT user and I have come across a problem that is really racking up my nerves.

The tutorial that I'm using, (first one I could find), says I should attach the windows to the wall using the attach button, and then it supplies an image.

I remember so, so well, seeing that attach button right here:

 

And it seems like its cut off here, as if :Attach" is right there?!

I've tried everything, (I was using a rectangle during the tutorial.)

I've restarted the program, my computer, but no luck.

Anybody have any ideas?

[SimHoTToDDy 2,938]

You sure it wasn't a rectangle spline instead of a box?

If you have a rectangle (say your wall) and you make a few more rectangles inside (for the window), you select your outer rectangle (it reallly could be any one), add an "edit spline" modifier, scroll down, and select "attach", or "attach multi".

[SimFox 802]

You can't attach anything to parametric primitives, they are nothing more than a graphical presentational of a mathematical formula. Set formula!

If you wanna attach some thing o ti (what ever it is9 turn it to mesh - by converting it to editable Poly, Editable Mesh, Editable spline etc. I strongly recommend not to use Edit Poly/mesh Spline modifiers - they're pointless and only tax your system.

[Liberater444 11]

I'm currently trying to pick up BATing. Today I tried making a simple house, but when it came to textures, I got a little lost.

First off, I often get black filled in rectangles and squares when i try to edit the meshes on them, in order to fill them with a material.

Secondly, it seems that some textures dont appear until i try to render. i have checked to make sure that it's .bmp, and they are.

Lastly, when im placing a texture on, the perspective viewport makes it look like its a close up of the image. Is there a way to change that? Is it a scaling problem.

Btw, I'm using 3ds Max.

[SimFox 802]

First! if you use 3ds Max go through all the modeling, texturing and Material tutorials that come with it. Don't be lazy and expect that people will solve all the "problems" that you run in. Particularly when those aren't really problems, but simple lack of basic knowledge. People could help, but not learn the tool for you.

So:

1. Help

2. Tutorials

and there you go!

[JakeMD 107]

Has anyone ever seen this when trying to open up the BAT tab in Gmax?

Simfox - I installed your HD script for gmax and it worked great. But after a couple of restarts this error came up.

I put the original scripts back and this error still showed up.  Not sure if it is because of your scripts or not, but theres a chance. . .

[SimFox 802]

No, there isn't.

And here is why. Would it be because of my script the same error would be on everyones screens. I mean you don't seriously think the I somehow slipped just you the "defective" script, do you?

Also this error would have come up immediately/first time you would start BAT) after installing my script.

That is if you think logically and not simply trying to find a guilty one, just someone to put a blame on.

However, there is a chance that sometimes after those two successful runs something have happened. I don't wanna speculate exactly what I simply don't have data for it to be of any value, but at the moment the function that creates BAT user interface is somehow corrupted. You should first check the file itself - TB2MainUI.ms, see if you can open it with Notepad or inside of GMAX and then look at the function in question see if it is intact. You could always check it / take it from the original file or from file in My HD add-on - it is identical in both.

[SimHoTToDDy 2,938]

The font on my ribbons (only the ribbons) does not want to cooperate. Good thing I have been using this for long enough to know what things do

Not sure what to pry open to straighten things out. Lord knows I didn't touch anything. I believe it started after switching to the "3GB switch" via reboot. I did this because I received a "can't allocate xyz bytes of memory" error & shut down message. Not anything I haven't done before, so I'm not sure why this of all times caused an issue. I haven't removed any fonts recently either so....

This is especially annoying since I'm actually trying to do the tutorials which, of course, are all about ribbons. 

[SimFox 802]

it may have something to do with what sort of fonts you use for Non-Unicode defaults.

[JakeMD 107]

Originally posted by: SimFox

No, there isn't.

And here is why. Would it be because of my script the same error would be on everyones screens. I mean you don't seriously think the I somehow slipped just you the "defective" script, do you?

Also this error would have come up immediately/first time you would start BAT) after installing my script.

That is if you think logically and not simply trying to find a guilty one, just someone to put a blame on.

However, there is a chance that sometimes after those two successful runs something have happened. I don't wanna speculate exactly what I simply don't have data for it to be of any value, but at the moment the function that creates BAT user interface is somehow corrupted. You should first check the file itself - TB2MainUI.ms, see if you can open it with Notepad or inside of GMAX and then look at the function in question see if it is intact. You could always check it / take it from the original file or from file in My HD add-on - it is identical in both.quote>

Wow, I didn't mean to come across hostile.  Thanks, though, I will try that.

[SimFox 802]

No, no no, you didn't and I wasn't trying to hint at that. All I was trying to show is that logic you should apply to the analysis of the situation.

Rejecting one by one unlikely scenarios you are much more likely to solve your problem. I also wanted to show why those are unlikely, that's all.

People should really learn to read explicit messages and not always assume some implicit meaning between lines. Not when you are dealing with problems.

[wmseith 0]

Hey everyone,

I am trying to learn how to use the BAT and gmax.  Have all the downloads but no tutorials in gmax.  All the decent tutorials on Maxis SIm City site are 404 not found, the omnibus in the MegaFAQ which might have been helpful was error 103 user not allowed access, and all the tutorials I have found deal with correcting problems.

Can someone point me in the way of a user's guide or tutorial on the use and functions of these programs please?  Thank you and have a great day.

PS: Sorry if there is one posted but I have spent hours trying to find one with no luck.

[wmseith 0]

I found another link to the omnibus and this time I got a whole slew of different messages and still no omnibus or tutorials.

Oops!

Message The 2 parameter of the Right function, which is now -1, must be a positive integer

Detail

Extended Info

Tag Context C:\websites\simtropolis.com\docs\omnibus\model\PageRender.cfc (1032)

C:\websites\simtropolis.com\docs\omnibus\model\PageRender.cfc (582)

C:\websites\simtropolis.com\docs\omnibus\model\PageRender.cfc (407)

C:\websites\simtropolis.com\docs\omnibus\model\PageRender.cfc (116)

C:\websites\simtropolis.com\docs\omnibus\model\PageGateway.cfc (551)

C:\websites\simtropolis.com\docs\omnibus\controller\Controller.cfc (335)

C:\Coldfusion Frameworks\ModelGlue\unity\listener\Listener.cfc (51)

C:\Coldfusion Frameworks\ModelGlue\unity\eventrequest\MessageBroadcaster.cfc (57)

C:\Coldfusion Frameworks\ModelGlue\unity\framework\ModelGlue.cfc (387)

C:\Coldfusion Frameworks\ModelGlue\unity\framework\ModelGlue.cfc (360)

C:\Coldfusion Frameworks\ModelGlue\unity\framework\ModelGlue.cfc (331)

C:\Coldfusion Frameworks\ModelGlue\unity\framework\ModelGlue.cfc (289)

C:\Coldfusion Frameworks\ModelGlue\unity\ModelGlue.cfm (126)

C:\Coldfusion Frameworks\ModelGlue\ModelGlue.cfm (26)

C:\websites\simtropolis.com\docs\omnibus\index.cfm (36)

[wmseith 0]

Thank you sir. That was exactly what I needed.

[carrot1984 9]

https://www.simtropolis.com/omnibus/index.cfm/Main.SimCity_4.Custom_Content.BAT_Essentials_Page_One

[robin9000 88]

Eample: If I take the line tool and click different points and go all the way around till I get back to my starting point and then modify it and extract it I can create a solid with out any problem.

Now how do I do the same idea but with somthing like two arces and a couple lines connecting them togeather. It dose not seem to work to simply attach them to geather as you would normally do.

When I try that it just gives a solid but with out any out side surface for the ends of the solid.

There must be a way to make it act like a solid wall before I extract it but how is it done?

Thanks for any help at all.

Moved from Modding - Transit Networks

- CaptCity

[Simaddict1000 1]

do you weld the connection points?

[robin9000 88]

Originally posted by: Simaddict1000

do you weld the connection points?quote>

I am not sure what you mean by if I weld the connection points?

What I have tried doing is to simply take an arc and then attach some lines to it and then extend it out.

I was trying to make a rain bow shape with 4 arcs and two lines.

I made one arc, then copied it and rotated it around for the other half of my half circle.

Then I duplicated that and put it above my first and drew two lines one at each end connectiong the two sets of arcs togeather.

When I then go to extend it dose not work as I would like and gives me the problem as mentioned in my first post.

Really very stuck and not sure how to make it act as a solid.

If I knew how to make it think that it was all one continues line my problem would be solved, but I don't know how to get it to do that?

[madhatter106 3,903]

Originally posted by: robin9000

I made one arc, then copied it and rotated it around for the other half of my half circle.

Then I duplicated that and put it above my first and drew two lines one at each end connectiong the two sets of arcs togeather.

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You need to choose one of the splines (let's say one of the arcs) with the Edit Spline modifier already applied, and then use the Attach command to attach the other splines (your straight lines) to it.  This will create one larger, more complex spline.  Then go into the vertex section of Edit Spline and select one of the vertex points where you are attaching, and then click weld.  You need to do this for all your vertex points - they all need to be welded before you can extrude to get what you want.

[robin9000 88]

Originally posted by: madhatter106

Originally posted by: robin9000

I made one arc, then copied it and rotated it around for the other half of my half circle.

Then I duplicated that and put it above my first and drew two lines one at each end connectiong the two sets of arcs togeather.

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You need to choose one of the splines (let's say one of the arcs) with the Edit Spline modifier already applied, and then use the Attach command to attach the other splines (your straight lines) to it.  This will create one larger, more complex spline.  Then go into the vertex section of Edit Spline and select one of the vertex points where you are attaching, and then click weld.  You need to do this for all your vertex points - they all need to be welded before you can extrude to get what you want.

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Thank you.

[LivingInThePast 364]

Here's the problem: I went to Clone, selected "Copy", "Copy", but now, Rectangle02 doesn't seem to be selectable and when I go to splines, the measurements are 0x0x0. Can anyone tell me what's going on? I glanced in BAT Essentials to make sure that I'm not doing something blindlessly stupid...

[donkey_kong_jack 0]

Sorry if there is a tutorial or something else for this somewhere but I couldn't find it so I came here.

I created a sign for my building and put it on as a bitmap image and everything is fine. Except now I want the sign to light up at night. Is there any way to do this. I am not very experienced with the b.a.t/gmax.(Just started using it) so any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[fabricio83tst 27]

Autoillumination on material, so you must do this image a material! Make a stdard material and scoll the options you will find on material editor panel!!

[donkey_kong_jack 0]

Oh, thanks, also whenever I try to do a night time preview of my building, the Gmax crashes. What might be causing this?

[fabsies55 5]

Hey, i was just wondering, i have some good ideas on buildings and everything. I was recently playing around with the BAT, and yeah, it was sort of wierd... are there any tutorials that are quick and easy, and show you the basics... basic building, windows, lighting doors, roof, all those things... just wondering, thats all

[psander5 195]

Yep!  There's the BAT Essentials tutorial on the Omnibus.  It should be perfect for what you want. 

Good luck!