I need help with getting terraformer or mapper working on Windows 10

[LexusInfernus 908]

Ive tried to install Sc4 mapper. It installs just fine, but when I try to create a new region, the thing gets stuck. Using a SC4m file causes a big white screen. If I try using a greyscale, it just gets stuck loading forever. 

So then I tried installing terraformer. That thing wont even install, I just get an error report. Not even sure what happened there. 

Can anyone help? 

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

I have no experience with Win 10, however my first guess would be Run as Administrator both for installing and then running. My second guess would be see if there is any XP compatibility mode settings you can tweak. Third, perhaps, try a virtual machine program with XP installed in it. If @rsc204 peruses this forum he's likely to have better advice.

Until you find a solution, may I suggest my little map making guide? I'm pretty sure it will work regardless of which OS you have.

[LexusInfernus 908]

Thanks for the advice! Sadly trying to install or run SC4 mapper in compatibility mode doesn't work, it still gives me a white screen when I try to create a new region using a SC4M file. 

The same error also occurs when installing SC4 terraformer. I'm posting the error log it gives me: 

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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "SC4Terraformer.py", line 4, in ?
  File "zipextimporter.pyo", line 78, in load_module
  File "SC4TerraformerApp.pyo", line 3, in ?
  File "zipextimporter.pyo", line 91, in load_module
ImportError: MemoryLoadLibrary failed loading tools3D.pyd

Ive got no idea what this means. 

In the mean time, Ill try your other suggestion. It certainly seems like a fun and novel way of making my own fantasy maps  
 

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

3 minutes ago, LexusInfernus said:

Ive got no idea what this means.

Oh, that's easy. It means something is mad at something else.

Side note cause you may not be tracking it, I replied in that Democracy 3  thread you replied to last year.

[LexusInfernus 908]

I wonder if this conflict is caused by Windows 10 or something else. In the meantime, Ill try greyscaling the jpg files that were included following your method. 

I haven't really played Democracy when I started getting frustrated with the game's internal idiot logic. Clean car incentives shouldn't cause a breathing problem. 

[rsc204 21,808]

In the first instance, ensure you've installed (correctly) all the necessary .dll files and other libraries required to work. These applications I think both use the Python language, which is not natively supported by Windows. It may also help to know, if a .dll file is correctly registered with your system, it should work globally. I.e. wherever it's installed, applications that use it will pick it up automatically. But for those that don't get registered with Windows, most commonly when you simply have the .dll files, in order for an application to find it, the .dll's should be placed in the root of the install directory for the application. Full information can be found with the accompanying documentation.

[matias93 7,535]

I'm not 100% sure, but if my downloads folder is right, you'll need to download:

• msvcp71.dll
• mfc71.dll
• gdiplus.dll
• glut32.dll
• glu32.dll

Unfortunately, I installed all SC4 utilities at once, so I cannot recall which of those libraries are for each program

[LexusInfernus 908]

Alright, thanks for the help guys! SC4 terraformer now works as it should!

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

1 hour ago, LexusInfernus said:

Alright, thanks for the help guys! SC4 terraformer now works as it should!

And Mapper?

And (for other peeps who might someday Google up this thread) what specifically solved it for you?

[LexusInfernus 908]

23 minutes ago, CorinaMarie said:

And Mapper?

And (for other peeps who might someday Google up this thread) what specifically solved it for you?

No, mapper still has the same issue as before. I don't think the white screen was caused by the lack of .dll files. But without an error report I can't be more specific I'm afraid.  

As for what solved it for me. I just downloaded the .dll files Matias93 mentioned (googled them) and put them in the same place where I extracted SC4 terraformer. I haven't exactly tested if I really needed all of them, but downloading all 5 of them did solve the issue. I hope this helps others as well. 

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

6 minutes ago, LexusInfernus said:

I don't think the white screen was caused by the lack of .dll files. But without an error report I can't be more specific I'm afraid.

Ok, this sort of triggers a memory of something I kind of might be mis-remembering from another thread here. (How's that for a disclaimer?) Anyhow, is this when you are loading a map created by someone else? There was something about an embedded .html file viewer that overflows something or other. The workaround for that was to run Mapper in a window (which might be the default) and have the problem showing then right-click on your desktop and change the resolution to something smaller. Accept that. Then immediately right-click and change it back to your normal resolution.

[LexusInfernus 908]

3 minutes ago, CorinaMarie said:

Ok, this sort of triggers a memory of something I kind of might be mis-remembering from another thread here. (How's that for a disclaimer?) Anyhow, is this when you are loading a map created by someone else? There was something about an embedded .html file viewer that overflows something or other. The workaround for that was to run Mapper in a window (which might be the default) and have the problem showing then right-click on your desktop and change the resolution to something smaller. Accept that. Then immediately right-click and change it back to your normal resolution.

Well, you are remembering right, changing the resolution does solve the problem. It works now! 

Though I think I'll stick to using terraformer now that I got all the .dll files. Not having to change my screen resolution every time I want import a new region from the STEX/LEX is a bit more user friendly  

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

7 minutes ago, LexusInfernus said:

Well, you are remembering right, changing the resolution does solve the problem. It works now!

Woot!

And to toss out one more option: Have you tried Landscape Designer 0973 Beta? That's the one Granpa Moose always praised the most.

[LexusInfernus 908]

2 minutes ago, CorinaMarie said:

Woot!

And to toss out one more option: Have you tried Landscape Designer 0973 Beta? That's the one Granpa Moose always praised the most.

Thanks, I haven't. Not sure if I will, now that I got mapper and terraformer to work. I really like to play around with those gorgeous custom maps found on the STEX/LEX. 

But having options is always nice

[arrchitect 0]

I've been getting the exact same error message

ImportError: MemoryLoadLibrary failed loading tools3D.pyd
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "SC4Terraformer.py", line 4, in ?
  File "zipextimporter.pyo", line 78, in load_module
  File "SC4TerraformerApp.pyo", line 3, in ?
  File "zipextimporter.pyo", line 91, in load_module
ImportError: MemoryLoadLibrary failed loading tools3D.pyd

I can't seem to figure out from previous discussions what was done to fix the problem. I downloaded every single dll. file that I needed, but the same error message occured. Is it something to do with the screen resolution?  

In the future, I'm using Landscape Designer but SC4 TerraFormer allows me to edit regions already in my game.

 

 

[rsc204 21,808]

If you have the correct .dll files, ensure they are in the root folder used for installation of the application. These errors specifically relate to missing sections of "code" which are part of the .DLL files (Dynamic Linked Libraries). So if you are seeing the error either the files are missing or in the wrong place.

[matias93 7,535]

You are lacking one or more DLL files that are required to run the program. Now I cannot remember which one of the list is the required one, but there are five that are common to most SC4 third party tools (maybe you didn't found the needed one on this case):

• MFC71.dll
• MSVCP71.dll
• GDIPLUS.dll
• GLUT32.dll
• GLU32.dll

Find them for download with an internet search and paste them on the folder where the SC4 Terraformer executable is (I always forget this). Tell us if this solved the problem.

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

And, btw, I've used this site: https://www.dll-files.com/

[iannnavas 22]

On 31/03/2017 at 11:30 PM, matias93 said:

You are lacking one or more DLL files that are required to run the program. Now I cannot remember which one of the list is the required one, but there are five that are common to most SC4 third party tools (maybe you didn't found the needed one on this case):

• MFC71.dll
• MSVCP71.dll
• GDIPLUS.dll
• GLUT32.dll
• GLU32.dll

Find them for download with an internet search and paste them on the folder where the SC4 Terraformer executable is (I always forget this). Tell us if this solved the problem.

 

On 31/03/2017 at 11:36 PM, CorinaMarie said:

And, btw, I've used this site: https://www.dll-files.com/

THANK YOU GUYS! YOU ALL REALLY HELPED ME! My SC4Terraformer wasn't working on Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, but I downloaded these 5 DLLs at that site which CorinaMarie commented here, and then I copied and pasted in the System32 folder and the folder where the SC4 Terraformer executable is! Then I click twice on the Terraformer executable, and the program opened perfectly!

PS.: I think that it isn't necessary to put the DLLs in the System32 folder, but I got lazy to take them out of that folder, so they stayed there for now. See the print below

I edited this comment because I put an emoji here (under the screenshot) by mistake lol! I'm still learning about how to use this comment section here in Simtropolis 😂!

[jbkone 14]

I used this DLL in the install folder and it worked.  

• msvcp71.dll

Now, is there a how-to on using Terraformer? 

[Cyclone Boom 16,875]

6 hours ago, jbkone said:

I used this DLL in the install folder and it worked.  

• msvcp71.dll

Glad to hear it worked!

 

6 hours ago, jbkone said:

Now, is there a how-to on using Terraformer?

There is this tutorial which goes over sculpting certain terrain features, but it is unfortunately missing pics.

A lot of it comes down to trial and error through experimentation really. While no expert yet, I've found Terraformer is a bit of an art to learn how each of the brushes react, and it takes testing and tweaking to know what works best. For a useful starting place, the included ReadmeTerraformer.html file has an overview of the tools it offers.

[jbkone 14]

this may not be the place for this, but a few city tiles in the region I just created with Terraformer are blank.  I can click on them and the city loads, but in the region view that square is just blue - like it's ocean.  I reloaded it in Terraformer and everything shows properly.  I loaded it in Mapper, and everything looks good.  Help?

[SIM-ple Jack 17,444]

1 hour ago, jbkone said:

this may not be the place for this, but a few city tiles in the region I just created with Terraformer are blank.  I can click on them and the city loads, but in the region view that square is just blue - like it's ocean.  I reloaded it in Terraformer and everything shows properly.  I loaded it in Mapper, and everything looks good.  Help?

I'm assuming this is  a Large tile. Go into the tile and scroll around for a minute or so, then save and go back out. If that doesn't fix it, go in and hit the obliterate button. It wont harm the terrain. Of course if you've already built something, it will get destroyed. BTW, Terraformer is one of the more intuitive apps, very easy to get the hang of. Pretty much like the city tile landscape tools in a region sized format. The hardest thing is getting used to the screen size.

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

2 hours ago, jbkone said:

I can click on them and the city loads, but in the region view that square is just blue - like it's ocean.

Change your region view from Transportation to Satellite. Otherwise simply enter the city tile, save, then exit back to the region. That'll update the missing internal transportation view image which TF and Mapper don't always create.

There's nothing at all wrong with the tile itself. No obliteration is needed.

[mm_reads 10]

On 3/31/2017 at 3:30 PM, matias93 said:

You are lacking one or more DLL files that are required to run the program. Now I cannot remember which one of the list is the required one, but there are five that are common to most SC4 third party tools (maybe you didn't found the needed one on this case):

• MFC71.dll
• MSVCP71.dll
• GDIPLUS.dll
• GLUT32.dll
• GLU32.dll

Find them for download with an internet search and paste them on the folder where the SC4 Terraformer executable is (I always forget this). Tell us if this solved the problem.

Thanks for this! It's still relevant to Windows 10 on a 64-bit computer. I only needed msvcp71.dll (so far). And the https://www.dll-files.com/  link was super helpful!

 

[thornp113 54]

On 11/8/2021 at 3:03 PM, mm_reads said:

You are lacking one or more DLL files that are required to run the program. Now I cannot remember which one of the list is the required one, but there are five that are common to most SC4 third party tools (maybe you didn't found the needed one on this case):

• MFC71.dll
• MSVCP71.dll
• GDIPLUS.dll
• GLUT32.dll
• GLU32.dll

Find them for download with an internet search and paste them on the folder where the SC4 Terraformer executable is (I always forget this). Tell us if this solved the problem.

SInce these posts are so old I thought I would add my recent experience.  I had a ton of problems running this program.  So I installed the above DLL files in both the folder I was launching and program from the System32 folder. 

It still didn't work.  It kept saying MFC71 wasn't found even though it was there.  Then, I saw on the .Readme there was a huge list of DLLs to install incase the program didn't run.  I did the same thing with them,  copying them to both the launch folder and System32 and then finally the program ran.

Actually I take that back I didnt run then because I forgot to install DirectX, but after doing that it ran.

[ocaneto 3]

@matias93 thanks for the DLL list

Do take note that for 64-bit operating systems these 32-bit DLL files should go to C:\Windows\SysWOW64 instead of the usual System32 folder.

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hmm after more than nine years since becoming a member and much longer still of just reading the forums this seems to be my first ever forum post yay me