Catenary Replacer

[boformer 3,169]

9 hours ago, agunter999 said:

is the ingame rail actually quite high poly then?

No.

[agunter999 200]

Well how does it manage to create a curve then?

[Tim The Terrible 586]

5 hours ago, agunter999 said:

Well how does it manage to create a curve then?

What he meant is the rail is not high poly as in 'not too many tri's than it should be'. The rail itself has enough poly's to look curved in the vanilla game. So enough, not too many

[agunter999 200]

Right I got you now I understand, thanks for that So detailing your light rail LA tracks for example is actually not 'high poly' in the sense its too high but significantly higher than stock rails. Interesting

[Tim The Terrible 586]

Announcement

I've been getting reports of Catenary props not showing up on One Way Tracks. I have been unable to reproduce the issue, so I have nothing to work with as I am inexperienced with C#. Therefor I'm calling out to this (awesome) community.

• I would like to ask all of you help me with finding the issue. I need you to load a city with:
  1. a style from Catenary Replacer ('No Catenary' excluded).
  2. One Way Track enabled.
  3. your normal setup. The more mods, the better. That way we can try to find an incompatibility.
  4. If you happen to have the issue, send me your output_log.txt as I am pretty sure there will be some useful information in there. You can find it here: Steam\SteamApps\common\Cities_Skylines\Cities_Data
• I'm kindly asking co-author/veteran @boformer to point me in the right direction. I noticed you are active on Simtropolis lately so I thought this is the right time to ask. Comment in this thread or message me in private. Danke! 
• I'm also asking authors of One Way Tracks @andreharv & @BloodyPenguin to support me by thinking of anything that was changed lately that might have caused this issue. The first report came in on December 1^st 2016. 

It might have something to do with 1.6 Update...?

Thank you all in advance!

Something else

I have received files of the Italian Catenary from Raffaele Zarrella, but they need some work. In the future I will add many more variations, but I'm not feeling motivated until we can use them per segment, as I find that to be necessary when having multiple styles. Unfortunately I'm currently unable to code that, so I'm hoping someone else will be able to get it done.

 

[maksim2014 17]

2 hours ago, Tim The Terrible said:

Announcement

I've been getting reports of Catenary props not showing up on One Way Tracks. I have been unable to reproduce the issue, so I have nothing to work with as I am inexperienced with C#. Therefor I'm calling out to this (awesome) community.

Catenary props not showing up on One Way Tracks, May be the issue of using pirated games

[Acc3ssViolation 81]

I did a test with the One Way Tracks and everything worked fine for all track types. (normal, dual one way, single one way, single two way)

That's running these mods:

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Enabled Plugins:
# Unlimited Money
# Unlock All
# Random Train Trailers
# 25 Spaces
# No Pillars
# Larger Footprints
# More Train Tracks
# LOD Toggler
# Toggle Traffic Lights
# Precision Engineering
# Clouds & Fog Toggler
# Quay Anarchy
# Service Vehicle Selector 2.2.1
# Sub-Buildings Enabler
# Tram Station Track
# Extra Train Station Tracks
# Elevated Stops Enabler
# Building Theme: Stockholm Row Houses
# NotSoUniqueBuildings
# Building Theme: Manhattan
# Pedestrian Crossings
# More Beautification
# Airport Roads 1.3.3
# Surface Painter
# Prop & Tree Anarchy
# Catenary Replacer
# Sharp Textures
# Prefab Hook
# Adaptive Prop Visibility Distance
# Mesh Info 1.3.3
# EuropeanBuildingsUnlocker
# Improved Public Transport 3.8.10
# Rush Hour
# Unlock All + Wonders & Landmarks
# Network Skins
# Extra Landscaping Tools
# No Seagulls
# One-Way Train Tracks
# Prop Line Tool
# Transport Line Rendering Fix
# Ploppable RICO
# Bulldozer Elevation Control
# Moledozer
# First Person Camera
# Daylight Classic
# Road Color Changer Continued
# Time Warp
# Vehicle Effects 1.5
# More Network Stuff
# Spawn Points Fix
# Disable ZoneCheck
# Extra Vehicle Effects
# Sharp Junction Angles
# Fine Road Tool 1.3.1
# Decal Prop Fix
# Advanced Vehicle Options 1.7.2
# Metro Overhaul
# One-Way Street Arrows
# Traffic Manager: President Edition
# Move It! 1.7.4
# Find It! 1.4.3
# Loading Screen Mod [Test]
# Network Extensions 2
# Building Themes
# Building Theme: Brooklyn

 

[Tim The Terrible 586]

12 hours ago, maksim2014 said:

Catenary props not showing up on One Way Tracks, May be the issue of using pirated games

Do you mean you are experiencing the bug? Are you using a pirated version of the game or is it just a suggestion?

18 minutes ago, Acc3ssViolation said:

I did a test with the One Way Tracks and everything worked fine for all track types. (normal, dual one way, single one way, single two way)

Thank you! It's weird how inconsistent the bug is. Did you use the regular mod or the Friends-Only Test Version? Seems like it was the regular looking at your list, but just asking to be sure.

[maksim2014 17]

2 hours ago, Tim The Terrible said:

Do you mean you are experiencing the bug? Are you using a pirated version of the game or is it just a suggestion?

This problem existed in the first edition of Catenary Replacer, not after the Natural Disasters was updated, then I used the steam game, using the same mod, my SaveGame using Catenary Replacer normal display Prop

[Acc3ssViolation 81]

2 hours ago, Tim The Terrible said:

Did you use the regular mod or the Friends-Only Test Version? Seems like it was the regular looking at your list, but just asking to be sure.

The regular one.

[maksim2014 17]

I'm sorry I was wrong, I did not test again

https://imgur.com/vTLcZZr

output_log.txt

[Tim The Terrible 586]

7 minutes ago, maksim2014 said:

I'm sorry I was wrong, I did not test again

https://imgur.com/vTLcZZr

Can you send me your output_log?

[maksim2014 17]

4 minutes ago, Tim The Terrible said:

Can you send me your output_log?

 

[Lee Towers 179]

It's working fine for me. Regular version of the mod as well, not friends-only. Running the following mods:

Spoiler

# Unlimited Money
# Unlock All
# More Beautification
# Elevated Stops Enabler
# Extra Train Station Tracks
# No Soil Limit
# Prop Remover
# Quay Anarchy
# Sub-Buildings Enabler
# Building Eyedropper Tool
# No Pillars
# Softer Shadows
# Local-Only Passenger Stations
# Automatic Emptying
# Moledozer
# Automatic Bulldoze
# Precision Engineering
# Sub-Buildings Tabs
# TotalyFree Camera
# City Vitals Watch
# Multi-Track Station Enabler 1.2.0
# Map Editor Tunnels Enabler
# Super Demand
# Clouds & Fog Toggler
# NotSoUniqueBuildings
# Tram Station Track
# Control Building Level Up
# Enable Achievements
# Service Vehicle Selector 2.2.1
# Airport Roads 1.3.3
# Surface Painter
# Prop & Tree Anarchy
# Prefab Hook
# Ship Path Anarchy
# Catenary Replacer
# Transport Line Rendering Fix
# Prop Line Tool
# Extra Landscaping Tools
# No Radioactive Desert And More!
# Daylight Classic
# EuropeanBuildingsUnlocker
# Environment Changer
# Improved Public Transport 3.8.10
# Building Themes
# UnlimitedOutsideConnections
# Network Skins
# Rush Hour
# Ploppable RICO
# Mesh Info 1.3.3
# First Person Camera
# One-Way Train Tracks
# Infinite Oil And Ore Redux
# Vehicle Effects 1.5
# More Network Stuff
# Spawn Points Fix
# 81 Tiles (Fixed for C:S 1.2+)
# Fine Road Anarchy 1.3.0
# Fine Road Tool 1.3.1
# Disable ZoneCheck
# Less Steam
# Advanced Vehicle Options 1.7.2
# NS 6400 Definition Pack
# NS 2200 Definition Pack
# One-Way Street Arrows
# Move It! 1.7.4
# Prop Snapping
# Network Extensions 2
# Find It! 1.4.3
# Loading Screen Mod [Test]
# Decal Prop Fix

 

[maksim2014 17]

the use of PRR A / B will not be a normal replacement, the use of Dutch A / B German japan will be replaced

In the new game only use UnlockAll, Catenary Replacer, One-Way Train Tracks [New version] test CR_PRR1A.crp is not properly replaced

[Avanya 2,605]

I've done some testing and here's what I found.

Dutch A & B, German and Japan work fine

PRR A & B doesn't have catenaries shop up for the two one tracks (Bi-directional or One way). With FindIt! I can find the One track catenary for PRR A, but there appears to be none for B.

List of mods:

Spoiler

• Adaptive Prop Visibility Distance
• Advanced Vehicle Options (AVO)
• Airport Roads
• Ambient Sounds Tuner 2.0
• American RoadSigns v1.1.1
• Building Eyedropper Tool
• Building Panel Already Exists Icons Fix
• Building Themes
• Bulldozer Elevation Control
• Catenary Replacer (Public version)
• Citizen Lifecycle Rebalance v2.1
• Clouds & Fog Toggler
• Control Building Level Up v0.4
• Crossings
• Daylight Classic
• Decal Hover Area
• Decal Prop Fix
• Disable Zone Check
• Enhanced Zoom Continued
• Environment Changer (+ Improved Theme Selection )
• Extended InfoPanel
• Extra Landscaping Tools
• Extra Train Station Tracks ( ETST )
• Find It!
• Fine Road Anarchy
• Fine Road Tool
• Improved Content Manager
• IPT - Improved Public Transport 3.8.10
• Less Steam
• Loading Screen Mod [Test]
• Local-Only Transport Stations
• LOD Toggler
• Mesh Info
• Metro Overhaul Mod
• MoreTrainTracks v0.4.1 (1.4 and more)
• Move It!
• Multi-Track Station Enabler 1.2.0
• Network Extensions 2
• Network Skins
• No Radioactive Desert And More!
• No Seagulls
• NoPillars ( v1.1+ compatible )
• One-Way Street Arrows
• One-Way Train Tracks [New version]
• Ploppable RICO Testing
• Precision Engineering
• Prefab Hook (Mod Dependency)
• Profitable Tourism
• Prop & Tree Anarchy
• Prop Fine Tune
• Prop Line Tool [PLT] (vAlpha)
• Prop Precision
• Prop Remover
• Prop Snapping
• Quay Anarchy
• Random Tree Rotation for Natural Disasters
• Roads United: Core+
• Roads United: Europe
• Roads United: North America PLUS
• Rush Hour [Beta]
• Service Vehicle Selector 2.2.1
• Shadow Strength Adjuster
• Sharp Textures
• Softer Shadows
• Steamy - More Steam controls
• Sub-Buildings Enabler (DEPRECATED)
• Sub-Buildings Tabs
• Surface Painter
• Theme Mixer 1.0
• Toggleable Whiteness
• Traffic Manager: President Edition
• Train & Train Stations Converter
• Transport Line Rendering Fix
• Ultimate Eyecandy v1.3.4
• Unlimited Money
• Unlock All
• Unlock All + Wonders & Landmarks
• Zen Garden Cherry Blossom Unlocker

 

[Tim The Terrible 586]

Update

I fixed the issue thanks to your wonderful feedback! The fact that it only didn't work with PRR styles made it a lot easier for me to find the issue. No one who reported the issue on the mod page ever mentioned which styles worked or didn't work, so I never thought of a style-bound bug. The fact that the first report came long after the last mod update made me think something else triggered it.

The issue?

Prefab PRR1A_Data needed to be PRR 1A_Data... I made a mistake in the name when saving the prop months ago. I feel so stupid 

Thank you everyone who sent feedback!

 

[cv 4]

The issue for me lies within the Lodaing Screen Mod and NONE of the single rail catenaries work for me.

When i have all assets enabled it shows just fine. but when i check "load only used assets" in the options for the loading screen mod  the single track catenarys arent showing up. i thought it'll be because i have to place the catenary i want as a prop for it to be able to replace it (otherwise the asset isnt "used" in my savegame and it will be ignored at the save game load). which fixed it for the dual rails. but for single rails it doesnt replace it properly. it uses the dual rail vanilla catenarys always. as shown in my screen shot.

edit: it WORKS for one directions single rails

[Tim The Terrible 586]

3 hours ago, cv said:

The issue for me lies within the Lodaing Screen Mod and NONE of the single rail catenaries work for me.

When i have all assets enabled it shows just fine. but when i check "load only used assets" in the options for the loading screen mod  the single track catenarys arent showing up. i thought it'll be because i have to place the catenary i want as a prop for it to be able to replace it (otherwise the asset isnt "used" in my savegame and it will be ignored at the save game load). which fixed it for the dual rails. but for single rails it doesnt replace it properly. it uses the dual rail vanilla catenarys always. as shown in my screen shot.

edit: it WORKS for one directions single rails

That's very strange.. I will investigate it, thank you for your feedback!

Does this happen for every style or only the German one as shown in the screenshot? Does it happen when you use 'No Catenary'?

What is the 'Load used assets only' option good for? What does it do? I'm not familiar with it.

[cv 4]

3 hours ago, Tim The Terrible said:

That's very strange.. I will investigate it, thank you for your feedback!

Does this happen for every style or only the German one as shown in the screenshot? Does it happen when you use 'No Catenary'?

What is the 'Load used assets only' option good for? What does it do? I'm not familiar with it.

Yes it is indeed very strange. and yes it doesnt work for EVERY style. even "no catenaries".

it will be replaced by vanilla dual line catenaries.

it is an issue to me but i can live with it. i mostly use one ways for railyards anyway so it doesnt need to have a connection.

and i kinda need the loading screen mod. cuts loading times for me in half.

eventually i will use every asset i have activated but until then i want to use my RAM for something else. haha.

 

PS: thanks for these assets and mods! i couldnt play the game without them tbh!

[Turjan 1,048]

Awesome mod. This really makes rails look good.

Not sure whether it's known or a game limitation, but I noticed that the "no catenary" option, which I only used per accident once, still shows the vanilla catenary lod models. If it's a game limitation, disregard this.

[Tim The Terrible 586]

16 hours ago, Turjan said:

Awesome mod. This really makes rails look good.

Not sure whether it's known or a game limitation, but I noticed that the "no catenary" option, which I only used per accident once, still shows the vanilla catenary lod models. If it's a game limitation, disregard this.

Thanks!

The issue you describe is known, but hasn't been reported by many people. There are a few things that can cause it:

• It could be caused by Natural Disasters update, however I don't own the DLC and it still works for me and many others.
• @boformer made an update some time ago to fix this same issue, which had to do with the load order of certain mods, which might not do it's job anymore.
• There is a known incompatibility with one of the options of Loading Screen Mod.

I don't know how many people have this issue, but we only have like 10 reports out of 25.000 subscribers, so it might be an individual case caused by a rare combination of mods. I am however willing to help out, I just need to find the time and find a way to sort out the cause.

Thank you and @cv for your feedback and I'll do my best to come with answers.

[Turjan 1,048]

I'm using the Loading Screen Mod with "load only necessary assets", so maybe that's it. For me personally, don't worry about it, as I'm using catenaries. I only noticed this when I accidentally had the "no catenary" option chosen.

[Tim The Terrible 586]

5 minutes ago, Turjan said:

I'm using the Loading Screen Mod with "load only necessary assets", so maybe that's it. For me personally, don't worry about it, as I'm using catenaries. I only noticed this when I accidentally had the "no catenary" option chosen.

Just for testing's sake could you try with that option turned off. If that fixes it I can put it in the mod's description and let others know.

[Turjan 1,048]

I checked a few combinations, including turning the Loading Screen Mod completely off, but I always see the wires in the LOD model. Which means it must be a different reason. If I notice anything, I will post it.

[Tim The Terrible 586]

1 hour ago, Turjan said:

I checked a few combinations, including turning the Loading Screen Mod completely off, but I always see the wires in the LOD model. Which means it must be a different reason. If I notice anything, I will post it.

The LODs showing up is something that has to be fixed, but is fairly complicated and I would need help with that. As long as the props (poles) work I'm happy for now.

[jduffett 34]

On April 8, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Tim The Terrible said:

I don't know how many people have this issue, but we only have like 10 reports out of 25.000 subscribers, so it might be an individual case caused by a rare combination of mods.

I have this problem too. I am using the Loading Screen Mod, and I do have ND.

[Tim The Terrible 586]

Update

• Added Expo Line style.
• You can now change styles in-game! 

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[Distanced 114]

@Tim The Terrible You mean map-wide without restarting, or per stretch of track kind of like network skins?

[Tim The Terrible 586]

2 minutes ago, TransitAuthority said:

@Tim The Terrible You mean map-wide without restarting, or per stretch of track kind of like network skins?

Global, same as always. But now you don't have to go back to menu every time. Network Skins might get an update after the new DLC.