Additional Public Transit

[Tim The Terrible 586]

2 hours ago, j4lambert said:

I believe that the release date will be just after thanksgiving based on this stuff. Probably just after black friday.

No, the release date is the day we are done. We don't really work with deadlines (maybe we should lol)

[skallben 21]

16 hours ago, andreharv said:

Bending Underground Stations

O M F G YES!

[wasmic 111]

@Tim The Terrible

I don't think deadlines are a good idea, they supposedly just make you burn out faster, and make you feel bad if you can't make them. 

[andreharv 1,197]

lol hence me feeling bad ALL THE TIME! lol jk.  Sometimes setting deadlines is a good way to stay on track and not forget your path to success.  The ultimate goal of this project is to allow users to enjoy metro at least as much as rail and roads (which is hardly the case).  It brings us great satisfaction to know that our little creations can bring playability and realism to this game.

@wasmic Don't worry.  It's been nearly a year since our last update and I have been working on this project, for the most part, since then.  Nothing is hard and fast for a ETA and we have not spared any details for this next release (except for a couple things that would push things back significantly further).  I can speak for everyone on this team when I say we love what we do :).

Thanks guys for your unreal patience...The team is literally having fun building this mod while yall wait for us to be done lol.  Stay tuned...

[wasmic 111]

Honestly, though, I'm very impressed with that new feature list. Like, that's a lot of awesome stuff; even those small things like where passengers enter underground stations, which only matters if people use first-person camera mods, have been fixed. It's a great amount of dedication to details that just marks this as one of the most impressive mods for C:S. 

[j4lambert 22]

I certainly agree. I have tested some trains that require the Metro Overhaul Mod with the regular metro system. The results have varied: most trains do not fit the platform.

[Tim The Terrible 586]

10 hours ago, j4lambert said:

most trains do not fit the platform.

In the length or width?

[j4lambert 22]

The length.

[Bad Peanut 826]

14 minutes ago, j4lambert said:

The length.

well obviously they wouldn't, that's the whole point of MOM to make the tracks longer than the weird little short ones.

[Tim The Terrible 586]

If they are too short we will fix it, if they are too long it's time for people to make longer metro trains 

[YP Justice 0]

What about metro stations with stacked platforms? What about train stations with island platforms that are ground, elevated, underground and sunken? Do you think there should be train depot?

[wasmic 111]

5 hours ago, YP Justice said:

What about metro stations with stacked platforms? What about train stations with island platforms that are ground, elevated, underground and sunken? Do you think there should be train depot?

A train depot has been deemed impossible previously. I don't know if it's still considered that, though.

Island platform station track already exists; BadPeanut made it. It works for ground-level train stations and sunken stations that are placed in trenches rather than in between tunnels.

Single track station platforms can also be used for island platforms; simply use two single station tracks. These also work for ground-level stations only, and for sunken stations that end in trenches rather than tunnels

[Bad Peanut 826]

2 hours ago, wasmic said:

A train depot has been deemed impossible previously. I don't know if it's still considered that, though.

Island platform station track already exists; BadPeanut made it. It works for ground-level train stations and sunken stations that are placed in trenches rather than in between tunnels.

Single track station platforms can also be used for island platforms; simply use two single station tracks. These also work for ground-level stations only, and for sunken stations that end in trenches rather than tunnels

I will be doing a sunken and elevated version at some point, it just needs a station to go with it so i can't just release the track otherwise it's a bit useless

[YP Justice 0]

Thanks

[j4lambert 22]

Any updates on the Metro Overhaul Mod's next update?

[Tim The Terrible 586]

NEXt week 

[j4lambert 22]

 

[rovapasi1 53]

Looks real cool.

[YP Justice 0]

What about disabling all saved games? You think it is a good idea for that to create a new map for metro overhaul mod?

[Avanya 2,605]

If you have many save games, disabling them could save a little RAM. Creating a new city for use with MOM is a good idea - or at least grabbing a city that doesn't have any metro. It can be used with existing metro, but since that's all underground, you'll likely want to change a lot of stuff.

[Inspecter 12]

So I take it the release has been delayed?

[Bad Peanut 826]

4 hours ago, Inspecter said:

So I take it the release has been delayed?

Just be patient. Everyone has seen how much work they've done and yeah they said a week ago they'd release so you know it's very close.

Just don't nag it's annoying and selfish

[Tim The Terrible 586]

It's not delayed because we never had a release date. It will release when it is 99% functional as we want to ensure smooth and problem-free gameplay. That way we don't have play Tech-Support for the next 3 months and work on the next update instead.

I can only say that it will almost definitely release in 2017. 

 

Probably.

 

Hopefully.

[YP Justice 0]

What about more variations of underground train stations that are not metro? Some examples can be with modular underground access, being at 14 and 22 metres deep, have multiple platforms and with island platforms. What do you think?

[Delta2k5 311]

1 hour ago, YP Justice said:

What about more variations of underground train stations that are not metro? Some examples can be with modular underground access, being at 14 and 22 metres deep, have multiple platforms and with island platforms. What do you think?

 

The modular access stations are already existing on the workshop - that's something assetbuilders are able to do. An example is this one which works really well for me:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=920970754&searchtext=modular

Also using REVOs elevators you have some nice looking entrance-points  

 

Island platforms are going to be included if I recall correctly  - also in this case it depends on asset builders to create the stations using those tracks  

[DaEgi 14]

@Tim The Terrible forget release dates, all they do is lower product quality. its done when its done, no compromises

[TheBigCon4800 42]

Thank you all for the new update and i hope the entire MOM devteam has a fantastic 2018!

[Tim The Terrible 586]

1 hour ago, TheBigCon4800 said:

Thank you all for the new update and i hope the entire MOM devteam has a fantastic 2018!

Thank you, but until further notice don't play with the mod and back-up your save files. We encountered an issue and are working on a fix. More information soon!

[TheBigCon4800 42]

This has to suck for you, sorry, this is the stuff of nightmares.

 

I have a crashlog that might help regarding the problems, it's a bit of a shot in the dark but it happened right after i loaded up the new MOM

output_log.txt

error.log

 

edit; pinging @Tim The Terrible and @andreharv, this may be a key in trying to fix MOM

crash.dmp

error.log

output_log.txt

[andreharv 1,197]

New Year, New MOM

The MOM update version 7.0 has been fixed and is ready to go!

For those who need a refresher:

• New Track UI which allows users to mix and match the following options:
  • Modern (formerly concrete) Style / Classic (formerly steel) Style
  • Single Track / Double Track
  • Oneway / Twoway
• New station types (ground, elevated) as well as rendered underground stations for new track types
  • Introducing island platform station track and rendered metro station
  • Introducing single underground station track and dual underground stations
• Slope and tunnel for Classic (formerly steel) Style tracks with optional center supports
• Underground station UI now has slider for Bending Underground Stations
• Improved underground station pathing algorithm.  Rendered metro station tunnels now have cims enter by the stairs and not as much through the wall (lol).  Better overall compatability with metro station assets.
• New ground/elevated station track UI which allows changing between Modern and Classic track styles for plopped stations
• New Classic Pillars as well as elevation specific pillars for classic pillars.  We may also include 'pillar props' option that will allow for props modeled as pillars to be placed between existing pillars so that there are not large gaps between pillars as has always seemed the case. *Proven to be a lot of work and it is not worth prolonging this release.  May revisit later.
• Bloody Penguin's MOM patch will be baked in.
• (As promised) pricing will be comparable to Passenger train pricing
• New classic bridge type, 'Pony Plate Girder Bridge' for Classic Style

 

Known issues:

• Multi perpendicular tracks tend to 'helecopter' and are unchangable
• Lights not in correct position in classic tunnel