FIFA World Cup Brazil 2014 - Thread

[NielsC007 499]

Wow, I didn't expect that at all. I feel kinda sorry for Brazil, although it's not like they've never won the world cup, unlike the Netherlands... 

[Hellken 1,658]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10955553/Germanys-destruction-of-Brazil-was-a-decade-in-the-making-as-fostering-talent-through-academies-pays-off.html

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/brazil/10955591/Brazil-fans-weep-in-the-streets-and-stadium-after-7-1-drubbing-in-pics.html?frame=2968793

 

Estádio Mineirão

 

 

 

 

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Well, it is all over but the recriminations for Brazil.  As usual, the Greeks had it right.  After hubris comes nemesis.  Second semi-final today, then the big show.

[BLANKBLANK 4,414]

There will be hell to pay if Brazil lose the play-offs.

[NielsC007 499]

I do have to say I'm kind of afraid of Argentina, or Messi, I should say. Although, if the Netherlands wins from Argentina we're going to have a NL - Germany match. And I don't like to say this but I think Germany would win that...

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

There will be hell to pay if Brazil lose the play-offs.

And no pitch hot.

 

[That's a nautical expression, you know: hell to pay and no pitch hot.]

[TekindusT 3,809]

Well, I see I lost again the whole action on this thread. After the match, which I watched*, I had to do some work for my job... My 2 cents on this match:

 

- We have just seen a historic match. This will be something that those books about the World Cup will talk about until football ceases its existance.

- I think Brazil knew from the beginning that they would reach the final, and possibly, win it. Nothing is impossible in football. I acutally thought that, until I knew they would have to beat Germany on the way.

- It is not the first time in football (or any sport) in which the semifinal will be more remembered than the final itself. It keeps surprising me that usually it is the semifinal, the match we remember the most of an entire championship.

- Brazil wasn't playing that bad until the second goal. They got the first one, OK, it hurts. Later they got the second and the defense got totally unfocused. They didn't even knew where were they, they couldn't move, remember the man they were on, their position on the field... A total lack of concentration due to a shock, a shock provoked by something they were not expecting. Recieving 2 goals in 20 minutes was something too hard for a Brazilian yesterday.

- Germany is usually nicknamed "the Mannschaft", this is "The Team" (strangely, when talking about a work team, the word used in German is "team"). It is for matches like this. The combination game before each goal was something we didn't see since the FC Barcelona good times.

- While I was doing work stuff, I saw the press conferences of Luiz Gustavo and Julio César. Kudos to them, really. Luiz Gustavo was crying like a child, and Julio César gave a "we will be back" speech that any defeated war general could have given. Those guys went out there and addressed to a whole nation that was still as shocked as them; and they did it as they could. Because they respect their nation and their fans.

 

And something else...

 

2010 FIFA World Cup winner --> Spain --> With 7 FC Barcelona players --> Trained by Pep Guardiola

2014 FIFA World Cup (not yet) winner --> Germany --> With 7 Bayern München players --> Trained by Pep Guardiola

 

Team football isn't made or destroyed. It just transforms.

 

(*) Saying "I watched" is too much. Actually most of the time I was talking via cell phone with my friends, asking how could that be happening, making jokes, sending memes and listening how my neighbourhood was taken by a horde of fireworks.

[Hellken 1,658]

Netherlands vs Argentina is next...

 

Robin Van Persie is sick.

[BLANKBLANK 4,414]

I think the Netherlands could beat Argentina. Argentina has been a one man show- Messi, much like Brazil- Neymar. The Netherlands play as a team and have a great manager.

[Cheddar 119]

Argentina did lose Di Maria, the player who scored the last minute goal in the round of 16. While Argentina's little "one man show" tactics seemed to have worked in their last 5 games, it certainly will not work against Netherlands. Heck, they could use it against Argentina.

Of course, to me, this is Argentina's first "real game" as Argentina were paired up with the tournament's most weakest teams. This match will give a wake up call for Argentina.

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

I think the Netherlands will beat Argentina too. The final against Germany will be epic!

[T Wrecks 10,210]

That would be two classics - Germany vs. Netherlands and the South American rivals, Argentina vs. Brazil!

 

However, this match so far was pretty boring to watch. They seem to be neutralizing each other. I hope the second half will be better. Up to now, I see a slight advantage for Argentina, but nothing too serious.

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Really hard match! I want penalties! Mwahaha!

[Easy Bakes 253]

Penalties !

 

 

Wow Argentina vs Germany

[cmdp123789 710]

ARGENTINA!!! ARGENTINAAA!! POR DIOS! QUE PARTIDO!! OMG WHAT A GAME! My heart was pounding sooooo hard..!! And to be honest.. I couldnt be more happy... 

[BLANKBLANK 4,414]

Netherlands... They should have scored before it got to penalties.

 

And when it came to penalties Vlaar came on instead of Robben first?

 

Anyway; Germany vs Argentina. That will be interesting...

 

And God help Brazil in their match against the Netherlands.

[Indiana Joe 1,752]

Great game, like an intense chess match.  I agree Netherlands had a much better chance in regular play.

 

Good luck to Argentina.  But I personally am behind Blitzkrieg 2014.     I would rather my country have lost to a champion.

[Cyclone Boom 17,031]

Shame it had to go to penalties, although it was no great surprise. It was always going to be a closely fought match. In the end, both sides were very strong in defence, with most of the play being a midfield battle.

 

Louis van Gaal is full of surprises. In hindsight, probably a bad mistake to use all 3 substitutes, meaning Tim Krul wasn't an option for the shootout.

Their main keeper Jasper Cillessen just didn't look up to it, and this stat could well explain why:

 

 

We'll still have a good final. It'll be interesting how the Brazilian fans react (especially those with tickets to the final). I think most will much prefer to see Germany win the title now.

[bluemoose 223]

The Dutch had a really good run.  I was expecting a little more from them after the brilliant performance against Spain, but they toughed it out. (I'm a big supporter for the Netherlands, but they (Robben) made it a little hard for me to maintain against people who only see it when their opponents dive.  Everyone dives, its just that certain favorites people are allowed to I guess.  I'm against any diving at all, but I'm able to look at the positives the Dutch team had to offer, like their brilliant mid-field and their thuggish confidence. /rant)

 

Hup Holland Hup!

 

Jullie waren Fantastisch!

[Ke|is 3,337]

Thanks for your support Bluemoose, I am totally agree with your comment and your thought about the KNVB !!

 

Hup, Holland Hup!

 

# Bedankt voor een geweldig toernooi! Wij zijn trots, jullie waren fantastisch !

[ROFLyoshi 1,760]

Heheh, I told you it would be a Germany vs Argentina final!

Yoshi's magic prediction: Germany wins 2-1 or 2-0.

[Cheddar 119]

I see I failed in my prediction. Well, my favorite for the final is Germany, as is the rest of the world probably. I say at least 2-0. 

 

As for third place, God help Brazil. I think Brazil can put up a good fight as capitan Thiago Silva is coming back, but the Netherlands can still overpower them. I say 2-1 for NL, tough game for Brazil. 

 

If the match stays largely in favor for the Netherlands, then they can say goodbye to third place and very likely the trust of the Brazilian people. 

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Netherlands with the World Cup is like Leonardo DiCaprio with the Oscar, really! They always deserve to win, came very close, but never won. I think it's very unfair, the Netherlands did an amazing World Cup.

[Dgmc2013 947]

Other lose? I never saw a Brazilian team so bad ...

[BLANKBLANK 4,414]

Brazil got thrashed again but with less severity. A very comfortable win for the Netherlands.

[TekindusT 3,809]

I would say not to judge Brazil for this last match. The match for the 3rd place is a complete humilliation and should be removed, as Louis van Gaal proposed. It is a complete loss of time, a way to extend the time the players are with all the team while they could be with their families. It is normal that the motivation is below zero while playing this match. 

[Dgmc2013 947]

Motivation is null indeed. And do not discount the merits of the Netherlands to win the game by a good score, but a team taking 10 goals in 2 games is because something is wrong.

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Brazil is evolving, this time only takes three goals 

[Cheddar 119]

I do agree with van Gaal's proposal. I was rather uninterested in this match. As for Brazil, this was merely just another 90 minutes full of humiliation for the hosts. At least they didn't concede more goals.

Well, as all of you would know, many are calling this the worst generation of Brazilian football, having conceded more goals than any other generation, 14 goals this tournament. This is the second third place match Brazil has lost and numerous records were broken on Brazilian soil, records that are unfavorable for them.

Based on this, I think some changes do need to be made, in the starting 11 and just the whole team in general.

Congratulations to the Netherlands to third place and I do wish Louis van Gaal the best of luck with Manchester United (?) or wherever he is going.

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Seems FIFA has the Olympic disease and wants to place three teams.  Too bad for Brazil.  And after all that political and financial hassel too!  Well, better luck next time.