SimCity: Transit and Roading Networks

[mapboy 106]

If a narrow street can only support up to medium density buildings, why have I seen high density buildings on narrow streets in screenshots, such as this one: http://www.thesimshu...003405795_o.jpg

That's because the (narrow) 4-lane road with lights supports high density buildings.

Ooh, goody!

I must have misinterpreted your post above.

That's great to know! I was worried that a city would never be able to support high densities just because I never laid any wide roads down.

[Haljackey 17,385]

So I'm assuming road widths are dependent on their names?

Something like street-road-avenue-boulevard-highway?

[mapboy 106]

So I'm assuming road widths are dependent on their names?

Something like street-road-avenue-boulevard-highway?

I understand that there are two different road widths, but multiple capacities of each.

The first road width is dirt road, 2 lane road, 4 lane road, 4 lane road with traffic lights, and the second road width is boulevard, avenue and avenue with tram.

[MaxisGuillaume 289]

So I'm assuming road widths are dependent on their names?

Something like street-road-avenue-boulevard-highway?

I understand that there are two different road widths, but multiple capacities of each.

The first road width is dirt road, 2 lane road, 4 lane road, 4 lane road with traffic lights, and the second road width is boulevard, avenue and avenue with tram.

Those are the internal names though, in game it's something like:

Low-density road, medium-density road, high-density road, and medium-density avenue, high-density avenue and finally high-density avenue with streetcar tracks. Oh, and dirt roads.

[mattyriddy 12]

So I'm assuming road widths are dependent on their names?

Something like street-road-avenue-boulevard-highway?

I understand that there are two different road widths, but multiple capacities of each.

The first road width is dirt road, 2 lane road, 4 lane road, 4 lane road with traffic lights, and the second road width is boulevard, avenue and avenue with tram.

Those are the internal names though, in game it's something like:

Low-density road, medium-density road, high-density road, and medium-density avenue, high-density avenue and finally high-density avenue with streetcar tracks. Oh, and dirt roads.

Personally I prefer the internal names, than what your are planning on using in the game.

Any chance you will reconsider?

[Moonraker0 193]

Are the tramways limited to only dedicated right-of-way in avenues? I hope there will be an option to have tracks that share the right of way with other vehicles. It would be limiting to their usefulness to only be able to have tram tracks in the widest roads.

If there aren't any shared-lane tramways, I hope that at least it will be possible for them to be modded in properly, instead of like in SC4 where the trams in such roads go through cars because modders didn't have a way to make them stop and slow down for other traffic.

[wtfboar 6]

If a narrow street can only support up to medium density buildings, why have I seen high density buildings on narrow streets in screenshots, such as this one: http://www.thesimshu...003405795_o.jpg

That's because the (narrow) 4-lane road with lights supports high density buildings.

Nice. I'm looking forward to this new function ability with the road network. Instead of planing urban development through light med and high density zoning. We now do it with the road we choose to build. And the road will network all of the power and utility lines and pipes.

[Cob92 360]

So I'm assuming road widths are dependent on their names?

Something like street-road-avenue-boulevard-highway?

I understand that there are two different road widths, but multiple capacities of each.

The first road width is dirt road, 2 lane road, 4 lane road, 4 lane road with traffic lights, and the second road width is boulevard, avenue and avenue with tram.

Those are the internal names though, in game it's something like:

Low-density road, medium-density road, high-density road, and medium-density avenue, high-density avenue and finally high-density avenue with streetcar tracks. Oh, and dirt roads.

So the loss of density control in the zoning system is made up for by density controls in the roads. Which sort of makes sense; you generally see density following the quality of the infrastructure in modern cities. All the new high density neighborhoods in the Sunbelt are forming along high quality roads and avenues, while the smaller roads still have only single-family homes and strip malls along them. I would like to see streetcars able to use more networks than simply the high density avenue.

[MaxisGuillaume 289]

I would like to see streetcars able to use more networks than simply the high density avenue.

Streetcars can also run on their own dedicated tracks as well.

[Wiimeiser 452]

I think he meant on roads and streets. We have that here in Melbourne.

Also, no info on highways?

[Moonraker0 193]

I think he meant on roads and streets. We have that here in Melbourne.

Also, no info on highways?

Right, that's what I meant...would make it easier to build the systems if they could be on any road.

[RyanMorgan95 144]

So, no highways/motorways/freeways/autobahns then?

Wait, I guess such high capacity road would be redundant in a pitiful 2km square map.

[jrm541992 17]

The stock SC4 interchanges work just as good the real deal for a lot less space, what's wrong with that?

[Ocram's Razr 964]

The stock SimCity 4 interchanges are unrealistically scaled. That is what is wrong.

--Ocram

[Cob92 360]

The stock SimCity 4 interchanges are unrealistically scaled. That is what is wrong.

--Ocram

SC has never been about realistic scale (SC4 is MUCH better on this front than SC3K was; we at least have proper interchanges in SC4). If you play the game the way it is designed everything will fit handily into the medium map.

[JaceTwice 115]

Come to think if it, A SC4 scaled interchange probably wouldn't be able to properly function in the new SimCity since the cars are actually simulated now.

[Cartographer29 13]

Those are the internal names though, in game it's something like:

Low-density road, medium-density road, high-density road, and medium-density avenue, high-density avenue and finally high-density avenue with streetcar tracks. Oh, and dirt roads.

Can we drag a higher-capacity road over an existing one to upgrade it? What if the newer road is wider than the previous? What will happen to adjacent properties?

[Mizari 23]

The stock SimCity 4 interchanges are unrealistically scaled. That is what is wrong.

--Ocram

Not really.

For a proper high-standard motorway, yes, but in reality they come in many shapes. There are plenty of interchanges even smaller in terms of consumed space. Not everywhere has those bloated U.S. interchanges.

But I forgot - this is, after all, The United States Mid-West/West-Coast Town Simulator.

[Urban Cartographer 601]

Sigh. When will the mods create Parclo interchanges for the upcoming SimCity? They are actually becoming more popular than the cloverleaf worldwide (including the United States Midwest/West Coast) and Ontario invented and popularized the Parclo interchange. In fact, Parclo interchanges take up less space than a cloverleaf and has a higher capacity as well.

[guitarmatt99 27]

Those are the internal names though, in game it's something like:

Low-density road, medium-density road, high-density road, and medium-density avenue, high-density avenue and finally high-density avenue with streetcar tracks. Oh, and dirt roads.

Can we drag a higher-capacity road over an existing one to upgrade it? What if the newer road is wider than the previous? What will happen to adjacent properties?

By the looks of a video on youtube when you delete a road the houses and zones also go with it which is disappointing.

[MaxisGuillaume 289]

Those are the internal names though, in game it's something like:

Low-density road, medium-density road, high-density road, and medium-density avenue, high-density avenue and finally high-density avenue with streetcar tracks. Oh, and dirt roads.

Can we drag a higher-capacity road over an existing one to upgrade it? What if the newer road is wider than the previous? What will happen to adjacent properties?

Only within the road-width class. So you can upgrade a low-density road to a medium density one, and a medium-density avenue to a high-density avenue, but not a medium-density road to a medium-density avenue (since they are different width.)

[guitarmatt99 27]

Only within the road-width class. So you can upgrade a low-density road to a medium density one, and a medium-density avenue to a high-density avenue, but not a medium-density road to a medium-density avenue (since they are different width.)

That makes sense, thats one thing that bugged me with cities xl. looking forward to seeing this in action, roll on march!

[Cob92 360]

Is there automatic demolition of adjacent properties if you lay a larger road over a smaller road, or must the buildings and/or road be demolished manually? Is it possible to build over part of a building's lot without demolishing the structure itself?

On another note, any word on freeways in the game?

[marksman1416 12]

Anything larger than an avenue will be already be in the region and can not be changed.

[cyruskafaiwu 29]

How's the ferry system coming along? We haven't seen much on it.

[grugor 60]

How's the ferry system coming along? We haven't seen much on it.

ferry here.

[MaxisGuillaume 289]

How's the ferry system coming along? We haven't seen much on it.

ferry here.

It's coming along nicely.

[pyanodon 218]

I cant wait to see more about the train system. If we will have elevated rail, see the models of heavy train, freight train and the kind of intersections the rail system can have with like airport and mainly seaports.

For example, some coal powerplants are stocked by coal wagons.

[Skyrunner27 23]

I don't believe right now there is elevated rail but you can lift light rail off the ground to create a sort of elevated rail.

[pineapple132 35]

Elevated rail would be nice to have, though the fact that you can make tunnels everywhere almost takes away the need of it for crossing things.