nybt-forum-threads PBGV's BAT Thread

[Vlasky 1,803]

Great job with the tower Paul. Which neighboring will they be? I'm rooting for CitySpire Center :P

[PBGV103 729]

Right now the plan is to make them in order of their completion date. So CitySpire would be next. I actually started on it last night, but the facade is much more complicated than Metropolitan so in an hour's work I only finish one 8 floor section. Also, I'm not sure if I should make the concrete bright white like it was when it was new or as weathered as it is now. I'll probably settle on something in the middle since some of it looks pretty unkept in pictures I've seen.

[Vlasky 1,803]

Paul, the facade of CitySpire Center is not made out of concrete. It is clad in limestone. As a matter of fact it's polished limestone. See in Google street view how glossy it is.

 

Limestone gets dirty after some time and needs washing. But imho it's not a situation that should affect the texture as buildings owners wash limestone from time to time (and I do think it's long overdue in case of this one). But that happens (as it did with Rockefeller center and ESB) and than it looks almost as good as new. Maybe a color variations between the limestone plates will do the trick.

[PBGV103 729]

The granite at the base looks glossy, but as far as I can tell the limestone is not. I'm not sure what picture you're going by, but on Google Street View there's no reflection in the limestone.

I spent a lot of time the past couple days working on just the basic shape, and while there are patterns to it, they're constantly changing. So far I have everything except the base and the crown done and it's already over 100,000 polys! This has to be the most complicated model I've made, at least as far as the facade goes. The good news is that by mapping out all of the proportions before I started everything has been a tight fit down to an accuracy of +/- 10 mm.

Here's a quick render. I slapped on a few basic materials so you can imagine what it will look like with real materials. It's also not quite scaled correctly yet.

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Wow! Looks beautiful!

[edwardjeria 503]

asome work

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Great work buddy!!!

[Vlasky 1,803]

It looks great! 

 

And you're right, it's my bad. It's not limestone it's polished granite, gray not glossy  and dark being glossy. I dunno how I made that assessment wrong

 

Even tho they're harder to instance/array buildings with setbacks and changing patterns are visually more interesting in sc4 renderings So, it's worth it in the end.

[Seraf 1,239]

As always you're doing your work great, I can't see any room for improvement How do you do it that even I can look at those glass boxes without despise?

[cmdp123789 710]

It looks awesome!! hope to see this one soon in the STEX 

[PBGV103 729]

Progress with CitySpire is still incredibly slow, but this is what it looks like so far. You'll have to excuse the horrible compression from imgur. Imageshack has decided to start charging for hosting pictures and I haven't decided if I want to pay for it.

[Parisian 556]

Oh gosh Paul, the city spire is such an iconic tower in the Carnegie area. Thanks a lot for attacking it

 

So you are working on all buildings in this area. Metropolitan tower, Cityspire... One57?

[Cool_Z 1,547]

Looks very good so far :) :)

 

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[edwardjeria 503]

asome work my friend

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

Very creative. Nice job!

[Vlasky 1,803]

It's coming along very nicely! 

[PBGV103 729]

I hit a small road block. The south west corner of the building is not wall to wall with the surrounding buildings, but google and bing don't have any pictures at an angle that shows what it looks like. If anyone can find pictures I would be greatly appreciative.

[Vlasky 1,803]

I'm not sure if this is useful at all, but it was all I could find on a quick notice. Have you checked Google Earth satellite images taken on different dates?

 

[PBGV103 729]

Yeah I had seen that one, thanks though. I ended up having to guess at how things lined up in the back based off proportions, angles, and perspective. I think it'll pass for believable, but I doubt it's true to the real building.

[PBGV103 729]

Just started have a problem where max won't let me select certain lines and vertices, and when I remove other extra lines it crashes. Also, for a while, when I tried to move certain vertices it would scale them instead. Has anyone else heard of these problems? Google came up with nothing.

[edwardjeria 503]

is very difficult to get an angle that photo 

especially for those who do not mind living in NY 

 

do not have anyone from NYC we collaborate in this

[JP Schriefer 5,591]

It would be a great BAT!

[PBGV103 729]

Parisian: I thought you were working on One57? If you've given up on it I'll eventually make it, but the construction crane isn't even fully disassembled yet and there aren't many good aerial photos of it.

A quick update.

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Wonderful work on he building, Keep it up!!!

[Parisian 556]

No Paul, I prefer to let it to you because this building deserves a high quality render, like most of your models (and regarding the Midtown area you are realizing these days).

 

Just If you do it, promise me to upload it on the stex  

 

By my side I prefer returning to smaller building, but more historic and older than the 50's style ones.  (Tudor City these days, and South Central park in a second time). 

[cmdp123789 710]

WOW! I love how this building is turning out.. and to be honest, this is one of the buildings that stand out, so it will be a great addition to manhattan's skyline!! keep it up..!! btw, are you going to use some curtain textures to give some variations to the windows?

[sten1700 102]

so is this a teaser or is this one actually gonna be released on the stex? Not trying to be mean tho

[PBGV103 729]

Aaron: Thanks!

Parisian: Then I'm sure I will eventually make One57 as part of this now 4 tower plan. The challenge will be finding good images of anything but the top 1/3. No one seems to take pictures of the base.

cmdp123789: The curtains/blinds, as with 99% of everything else will be modeled, not part of the materials. You lose some accuracy/depth to the appearance if you just incorporate them into a material.

sten1700: My plan is to release all of the area's buildings at the same time.

I did a test export and CitySpire looked rather greenish in the game so I'll desaturate the green / turn up the red of the limestone. There's still so many little things left to do though.

I'm also realizing that taking even a month to finish a building seems way too long. I think I would be much happier if they took about a week each. I need to get much faster.

[unclesahm 32]

What about the Park Ave. buildings? Will those be included in the "package"?

[Vlasky 1,803]

I'm happy to hear about release plans. 

 

Do you mean you need something like this for One57?

 

 

 

For more images like this, explore this thread:     http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=776476&page=159