Revolving Skyscrapers

[ricb 19]

What do people think?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080624/tts-uk-newyork-tower-d1d4700.html

[zzazzmatazz 3]

Here is some pics from the developers site:

Developer's site:   http://www.dynamicarchitecture.net/21-06-08/new-web_23-06-08/dubai.html

I think it looks very futuristic!

[The Arrowz 3]

that would be cool if it became reality

man if they have one in NYC or Moscow that would be so cool, Dubai and the middle east are getting most of the supertalls at the moment (which is a good thing because they have the money to make insanely awesome buildings, but everywhere else is falling behind)

[zzazzmatazz 3]

Originally posted by: The Arrowz that would be cool if it became reality

man if they have one in NYC or Moscow that would be so cool, Dubai and the middle east are getting most of the supertalls at the moment (which is a good thing because they have the money to make insanely awesome buildings, but everywhere else is falling behind)quote>

 

Construction of these magnificent buildings in Dubai and Moscow will began in a few weeks, and both are expected to finish in 2010, so it wont be long till these are done!  

EDIT:

Here is pics of  Moscow's dynamic building:

[Mebert 5]

I don't like it.

Forgive me, but I find the fact that the floor is moving under me a little unsettling, especially fifty floors up.

[doodlea21 31]

I thought it wouldn't be very environmentally friendly with probably high heating costs, but I've also found out that the one in Dubai will have a wind turbine between each floor. It says here it would be able to power itself and a few of the buildings around it.

[GMT 389]

so who's gonna BAT it?

[TheJerseyDevil73 13]

That is ugly... I'm kind of sad to see the route some people take buildings. Just becuase you can make it look odd doesnt mean you have too. But then again I like 1930's style buildings so....

[hunkske 53]

mmm, not really my cup of tea...

[fabsies55 5]

i like it but the fact that some of the floors will keep stopping or moving while ur trying to get into ur room would get annoying or depending on how they operate it but also as we live on we invent or build new/ new looking things so this is a big step into the environmentally friendly and futuristic future.

but they expect for all major areas of dubai t be done by 2012 i mean thats pretty soon... the palm something dunno the name... was sold out completely in 3 days and one house being bought by david beckham dubai and these buildings will be a big hit.

[SimFox 800]

Originally posted by: fabsies55 i like it but the fact that some of the floors will keep stopping or moving while ur trying to get into ur room would get annoying or depending on how they operate it but also as we live on we invent or build new/ new looking things so this is a big step into the environmentally friendly and futuristic future.

but they expect for all major areas of dubai t be done by 2012 i mean thats pretty soon... the palm something dunno the name... was sold out completely in 3 days and one house being bought by david beckham dubai and these buildings will be a big hit.quote>

Who and where had said that all were sold in 3 days?

I've heard quite different information. Sales go very badly. Despite very low (comparatively) prices.

Those top Celebs reportedly got their homes for complete knock off prices as a publicity stunt.

Also what does statement that Dubai will be "done" by 2012 mean? Will they run out of space to built; don't think so... it start in nowhere and ends in same. If you wish you could built for centuries there. there is plenty of land. Big question is a rational for it all. But since all is done in that magic kingdom by a very secreted companies dealing purely on "personal" basis and no reliable information/statistics is ever available it would be pointless to speculate..

[tjh876 31]

Dubai is slowly running out of it's main export, oil/natural gas. That export brings a lot money to the country. But now, they are running out of it, so now they want to build enormous buildings, man-made islands, a giant ski resort, a giant mall, water front hotels and apartments, and islands that look a lot like the seven continents. And now rotating buildings. Dubai wants to increase tourisum but a whole lot, and so thats why they created these huge buildidngs and man-made islands and all those other things to make people want to come and see how cool and neat and so on and so forth about their country. Thy just wanted to say that here in Dubai, you can do everything you want to do. Honestly, I think that its a briliant idea and shows how safe and eco freindly skyscrpaers can be.

[patriots_1228 51]

waste of time, money, resources, energy, and probably vomit. If i wanna spin around for an hour i'll go to six flags.

city like dubai that think they will become a great city just because they build 2000 foot spinning glass towers need a wake up call. Its not the buildings that make the city, its the people.

[tjh876 31]

You notice that they need the tourism so they can survive. Okay oil is Dubai's main export! Once they oil is all gone, their broke unless they increase tourism so that they can have money comming in from a source that may never run out. If their city looks so cool or modern or tropical, etc. than people would want to go there. Its that simple, but some others don't get it. This building is an original, and thats what matters. If its a first, that its better than any building that is the same or slightly diffrent to the original that follows it. It's that simple.

[patriots_1228 51]

^if im right, thats a common misconception. Dubai supposebly has a very strong "non-oil" economy growing, so that once everyone is juicing their cars with corn from nebraska, dubai won't go bad.

[tjh876 31]

Huh?

[simzebu 19]

Originally posted by: patriots_1228 ^if im right, thats a common misconception. Dubai supposebly has a very strong "non-oil" economy growing, so that once everyone is juicing their cars with corn from nebraska, dubai won't go bad.quote>

That is sort of true. They do depend on oil to an extent, but not nearly as much as the rest of the Middle East. According to The Compendium of the World's Knowledge, the UAE (United Arab Emirates, the nation where Dubai is) has the third-largest non-oil GDP in the Arab World, behind Egypt and Morocco.

And yes, much of their money does come from tourism, but the UAE, and especially Dubai, has become a center for international finance and business for the Middle East.

That being said, I do think many of their projects are quite wasteful and unnecessary. These rotating buildings are just ridiculous ways of showing off their money. And while I don't object to showing off one's money per se, shifting skyscrapers is just plain ridiculous.

[zzazzmatazz 3]

Who and where had said that all were sold in 3 days?

I've heard quite different information. Sales go very badly. Despite very low (comparatively) prices.quote>

 

It was alittle slow in sales when they approved it first back in 2001, but 75% of the properties of the Palm Jumeirah are already been sold and were ready to hand over to the buyers in 2007.

city like dubai that think they will become a great city just because they build 2000 foot spinning glass towers need a wake up call. Its not the buildings that make the city, its the people.quote>

 

 

There are not just building  the Dynamic buildings just in Dubai, they are constructing it in Moscow also, and proposing to build one in New York City.

[patriots_1228 51]

^The difference?

Moscow and New York are cities, not large resorts with little culture or history but giant 2000 foot glass towers. Doesn't mean they are right to build these stupid things either

[psander5 195]

Wow, a mixed response to these buildings. I'm gonna sit on the fence. I like them in principal. The technology looks great, and the pictures posted above are all fantastic, but only if the rotation is controlled centrally. If a person can have control of his/her floor the building, though unique, could just become a mess. People need to be controlled where aesthetics are concerned. I like the idea of a building that morphs as the day passes, so it has a different presence depending on the time of day. I also like the idea that the rooms could follow the sun (kind of), like how leaves turn to face the shifting light.

In general... these buildings have to be built, and i'm glad that they are. In Britain we have a problem with planning officials which means radical ideas rarely pass and come to fruition. We need more buildings like this!

[Odainsaker 2,133]

Good luck!

We might consider that the ideal revolving restaurant tower would have its entire saucer-shaped head rotate, and indeed that was the original conception. However, the technical complexity of constructing such mechanical structures was prohibitive and led instead to the pattern of leaving the exterior static and just revolving the interior floors. The mechanical complexity of each exposed floor of a skyscraper in motion just boggles the mind.

Perhaps the more instructive dynamic building would be Jean Nouvel's Arab Institute in Paris, whose southern glass wall has a sunscreen patterned after the lattice screens and dappled light found in traditional Arab architecture. The surprise is that the lattice in Nouvel's museum is made up of hundreds of mechanical camera-like shutters which automatically open or close in response to the amount of sunlight a sensor on each individual shutter detects, ideally making the entire wall whir with activity and ever-changing unique patterns as shutters constantly adjust themselves for each passing cloud. Of course, with so many constantly moving tiny parts this elaborate screen is a maintenance nightmare and continual operating drain on increasingly constrained budgets, and so for a long time this key feature of the building was left non-functional and in disrepair. I am not entirely sure if it even still works today...our forum Paris fans while have to update me on the current state of this great marvel of modern architecture.

We might also look to the Japanese Metabolists of the 1960s and 70s, whose pre-fabricated capsule-on-megastructure architecture would express the living process of growth and change over time by allowing capsules to be attached, detached, or rearranged given the occupancy needs. Delicate leaves on a structural tree that through the seasons change color, fall away to die, and then later regrow from new buds make for beautiful metaphors of urbanity, but it ultimately had little financial or usability practicality for owners or tenants.

I don't know...my knee-jerk reaction is that these proposed towers similarly seem like expensive one-time gimmicks, driven by the idea of showing off a neat trick rather than explaining why living in such a skyscraper is an ideal pattern for living. Indeed...like the rotating restaurant tower with moving internal floors, consider how we might react if instead these towers left their exteriors static, and instead only rotated their internal floors (a far simpler though still hugely expensive setup). In such a scenario we might ask what is the point and how many occupants would want their own floors spinning, and in doing so acknowledge that the current point is just for us spectators on the outside looking at the building.

I'd be frustrated if the corner office or living room with the beautiful view for which I paid a fortune in rent kept getting shifted to the harsh and hot western sun in the afternoon. That would be my luck. Of course, I should admit it is also my luck sometimes getting nauseous in rotating restaurants, and while I joke on the wisdom of combining together vertigo, motion sickness, and dinnertime, I can still recognize the internal conceptual sense of providing dynamic grand views for restaurant patrons.

[paulvmontfort 616]

I think such a system would be so maintenance-heavy that it isn't sustainable just like the fa

[villagemayor 0]

I don't really understand the fad of the twisting skyscraper. Thanks to the Turning Torso in Malm Sweden, EVERY city must have a twisted building. Even in Mississauga (a suburb of Toronto) where I live, there will be two twisting residential towers. It looks interesting to look at and certainly raises the bar in architecture and urban design, but 50 years down the road, everyone will balk at the sight of these buildings.

[Mebert 5]

I agree. They're expensive, and, well ... pointless. Not to mention the fact that they probably aren't much safe, either.

[belfastuniguy 18]

I think if successful the technology could be used for other projects. I'm personally intrigued to see how it is developed, but yes it is going to be incredibly maintenance heavy with several problems I can forsee. I think we should at least build one and see if it can be done and made to work. Humans have always wanted to push boundaries, and well its in Dubai. so hardly as if they are going to destroy a tasteful skyline in somewhere like Paris or London.

As for the Dubai issued raised, yes Dubai is running out of oil and they are using the money from it to create a loaction where everyone wants to come, a tourist destination with indoor skiing, great beaches and massive theme parks and malls. As well as trying to create a new centre of learning and innovation, finance and business.

It may work, it may not, we'll have to wait and see.

[ilikehotdogsalot 307]

Don't really see what's the whole beef with Dubai is about. I find all the projects incredible and shows how far human engineering and ideas can be taken.

Dubai was founded a century ago on shipping and trading much like any other world city was founded, and as the 20th century started to come to a close, oil was discovered and led to the city's boom. Since oil is not the best resource for a country or city to run on, Dubai has started these insane projects to create massive tourism and bring business to the city thanks to the sheikhs who ordered projects to make the city a world known destination.

It looks like it's working. Dubai is already a known well-known travel destination, and many have traveled to the city to find out it's not glimmering towers with some sand nearby, maybe a little research will prove this to those who haven't been there. It's already a living city with 2 milion residents calling it home and countless tourists a vacation spot. It doesn't rely heavily on oil anymore, with only something like 3% of the revenue coming from oil, so it's not going to crash and burn when oil runs out like others have theorized.

Dubai is a sandbox for an engineer/architect/urban planner's imagination to let out and go wild. We'll be hearing much more about it in the coming years, as it'll be transformed from construction sites to something that will make your jaw drop (if it hasn't already). Don't compare it to London, New York, or Paris as it's a totally different city located in a different continent.

*end rant*

[The Arrowz 3]

haha looking at the big picture from 800721, it seems that the building will look nice when it's new, but once everyone starts moving the floors around it'll look like chaos forever unless the tenants decide to align every single floor at one time...

[flame1396 9]

Wish I could afford an apartment in it.... Damn

EDIT: looks like the Moscow one will be more controlled in its rotation. I like that more. The whole Idea is totally sick.

[zzazzmatazz 3]

From the architecture's website, this answers how this is gonna be built:

                                                  

THE FUTURE OF CONSTRUCTION

 

Dr. David Fisher's revolutionary Dynamic Tower, the first building in motion which is the first skyscraper to be entirely assembled in a factory from prefabricated parts, factory made buildings will offers the advantages of any modern industrial product, it saves energy, reduces construction time and dramatically cuts building costs.

The prefabricated units arrive at the building site ready for quick and efficient installation, this approach known as the Fisher Method also requires far less workers on the construction site than traditional traditionally, In fact each floor of the building can be completed in only seven days, units can also be customized according to the owners' needs and styles.

Each individual unit will be completely finished at the Factory and exported worldwide, it will be equipped with all necessary plumbing and electric systems including all finishing from flooring to ceilings, bathrooms, kitchens, cabinets, lighting and furniture.

The preassembled units are simply hooked to each other mechanically, this results in environmentally clean construction sites, avoiding unloading of materials, waste, noise and pollution, there will be less risk of accidents to construction workers, and construction time will be reduced by over 30 percent. due to their particular construction method, prefabricated buildings will also be easy to maintain and repair, the building's maintenance facility, type of materials used, and the quality control employed will also make them more durable than any traditional structure.

Since the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids not much has changed in the world of building construction, workers placed a stone on top of another, and brick on top of brick, in 1889, the use of steel was introduced into construction for the Eiffel Tower in Paris, and beginning in 1905 reinforced concrete was used, with the start of the Industrial Revolution in 1780, products began to be made in factories using industrial methods, but today buildings are still done on site as they were 4,000 years ago.

“Almost every product used today is the result of an industrial process and can be transported around the world, from cars and boats to computers and clothing, factories are chosen for their ready access to materials, production technology, inexpensive labour, efficiency, and other conditions that result in high quality at a relatively low cost,” Dr. Fisher noted.

“It is unbelievable that real estate and construction which is the leading sector of the world economy, is also the most primitive, for example most workers throughout the world still regularly use trowels that was first used by the Egyptians and then by the Romans, buildings should not be different than any other product, and from now on they will be manufactured in a production facility,” Dr. Fisher stated.

The Dynamic Tower represents the future of architecture, resulting in a new era of living that will benefit both man and nature.

Renowned Italian architect Dr. David Fisher is the creator of the Dynamic Tower, a building in motion. He has spent more than 30 years working to redefine the technical and technological extremes of buildings in cities like London, New York, Moscow, Hong Kong, Paris and Dubai, he graduated with honors from the University of Florence where later he served as a professor of architecture and structural engineering.

Fisher is the creator of the world's first building in motion, the Dynamic Tower heralds a new era of architecture buildings in motion that will challenge traditional architecture to become the symbol of a new philosophy that will change the look of our cities and the concept of urban living. quote>

[tjh876 31]

Originally posted by: simzebu

Originally posted by: patriots_1228 ^if im right, thats a common misconception. Dubai supposebly has a very strong "non-oil" economy growing, so that once everyone is juicing their cars with corn from nebraska, dubai won't go bad.quote>

That is sort of true. They do depend on oil to an extent, but not nearly as much as the rest of the Middle East. According to The Compendium of the World's Knowledge, the UAE (United Arab Emirates, the nation where Dubai is) has the third-largest non-oil GDP in the Arab World, behind Egypt and Morocco.

And yes, much of their money does come from tourism, but the UAE, and especially Dubai, has become a center for international finance and business for the Middle East.

That being said, I do think many of their projects are quite wasteful and unnecessary. These rotating buildings are just ridiculous ways of showing off their money. And while I don't object to showing off one's money per se, shifting skyscrapers is just plain ridiculous.quote>

 

Have you ever come to the point that the people of Dubai are Show-offy jerks?