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I've been using windows 7 beta and tried to run Simcity 4 on it. It works well until I realize that the manufacture demand in my cities plumeted. I tried to find the source of the problem but found out that all my dirty Industries are medium income. As far as I can remember all dirty Industries were low income, but I wasn't sure about it so I did some problem solveing. I tried moving all of my plugins out of the plugin folder, including the maxis landmarks, as well as reinstalling, but it seem to stay the same. Now I just want to know wether it's a problem or not, and if it is, is there a way to fix it. Thanks in advance.

So if it is medium wealth then I guess my pop. distribution need a lot of work. Anyways, thanks guys.

to krbe You just proved yourself ignorant by saying all this. The fact is it doesn't matter wether you look at the poem or the video, both aimed at expressing a view that had been widely seen by chinese throughout the world. ephorex_77 posted the poem and the video to offer all of us a different viewpoint, one that many of us may never realize. The video may have some mistakened facts and pictures, but it isn't important, no one's perfect, what really matters is how they looked at the western culture and why, the pictures and the description are simply tools they used to express it. krbe, I admire your attention to detail, but it is hardly appropriate in this debate.

I agree with plus01, but I think all of us should all listen to callbat, sit down and have a drink, the post are getting a bit personal, and offensive. On the topic of the Warlord era, though the europeans did exploit great on china's wealth of human and natural resources, it was the weakness of the Qing government that had tore the country apart giving the europeans the opportunity in the first place. So, fukuda has a point, despite being a misplaced one.

any possibility of a live update?

patriots_1228, belfastuniguy: thank you for the explaination, though it's unfortunate that China will not likely reach total stability. The dominent Han people has been in dominence for centuries, and no ethnic group is large enough to challenge it.

It would seem that you fail to see the problems that forcing all those diverse groups to live under one authority does. It creates the breeding ground for protest and potential violence. Tibet has always been calling for autonomy since it lost it. The Olympics have allowed the people of Tibet and those that support it to have their voice heard.quote> You've got a point, but isn't having diverse groups under one authority a problem for many nations?

May be I wasn't making my point here, but when I say ethnic groups I meant groups with completely different culture, history and language, not tribes. If you want to count tribes there would be hundreds. If you say that the tibet is not going to be free than what of the other 54. And since they are not free, they had 50 years to protest, but they do it now, why? Isn't the protest more of a political statement than a peace staement?

patriots_1228 nice try, though I thought you would like to know that there are 55 different ethnic group(equivilant to natives)in China.

TRSTN It might seem foolish for the government to allow such exploition to flurish, but if you look back in history when both the soviet and the chinese realize the need of reformation, they each chose a different path. Soviet tries to do a political reform, but failed miserablely after 2 decades, where as the chinese is still going strong. Progress for part of the population is much easier than say make everyone rich, how do you make your people rich when no one can afford to spend money?

There are progress in china, but the country is still not ready to present it self in an event such as the olympics. Too many things about china are still debatable and from way the officials had dealt with the Tibet riot, it shows that they are inexperienced and in some case, foolish. I don't see how 08 olympics is going to make china shine, but it could be a good heads up for the 2010 Expo.

wise words & TheQuiltedLlama: Please read the WHOLE post

plz excuse the quad posts, I had problems with my cable

wow, so many replies, wasn't expecting that. I'm glad that you guy said something, they are all are good opinions and facts, widened my vision a bit. Anyway, to the point, first, I am not trying to convince anyone, personally, I'm really just waiting and hoping that the chinese government don't do something stupid. Secondly, I think we should consider its sizable population. being the country with the most population in the world could make it difficult for any government to prevent poverty and even if one do reduce poverty in the mojority of the population it would take time. It is also notable that the people have better living condition and quality than before, it's far from perfect but it's still improving. As for the pollution problem, it's one of the things sacrficed for the economical reform, inexcusable, the same goes for freedom of speech.

I wonder if you have ever set foot outside good old america

Interesting how you are an american yet speak of ordinary chinese being oppressed by the government. I was born in that "awful" country yet don't feel any of that, even after I moved to Canada. You speak of them not caring for any human-being other than themselves, but clearly there are no less that 1billion people in that country with good living. I'm not trying to change the way you feel, but it's interesting how the western world think china is bad while nobody trys to go there and take a good look.