Windows 11 discussion thread

[Propfam 2,286]

Hello,

Windows 11 is going to be unveiled on June 24th at 11 am Eastern.

Personally, I still love Windows 7 (or even better, Windows 2000) though as the pinnacle of Windows consistency. At least, Windows 8 and 8.1 still separated both Modern Design and Win32 environment, though the completeness (and keyboard & mouse friendliness) of the Modern Design environment was welcomed but there were various factors inhibited the idea. Windows 10 marked the downhill of consistency. But this is just mine, let me know your opinion down below. Hope it helps. Thanks.

[Whte_rbt 1,431]

Yeah, also not a fan of modern windows (10). I do have it on my laptop because thats what it was built for originally. Win 7 was the start of the downhill in my opinion, but I'm one of those old-school types that expects a computer to do exactly what it is told to do, not to start off with 'did you mean this?' or any additional requests for authentication. Hell, from my point of view, the use of a mouse is still optional, I still Tab/Shift-Tab around most stuff.

[SIM-ple Jack 17,444]

Win7 killed off half the apps I had in XP, and I'm just about restored now. Had another PC with 10, and hated it. Now they're going to try and force 11 on us. Good luck with that.

[Ocram's Razr 963]

Windows Vista was worse than 7. I won't upgrade to 11 if I can help it. I might upgrade to linux in a few years.

[Whte_rbt 1,431]

2 hours ago, Ocram's Razr said:

I might upgrade to linux in a few years.

Thats what my tower is running (Kubuntu). I'm gonna need to look into the drivers for the 360 touchscreen for linux if i'm gonna switch the laptop over too. There's a few linux users kicking around here, @catty-cb is running Mint iirc. If you need any questions about linux in general answered feel free to send me a PM.

[catty-cb 4,381]

I tried out a variety of linux operating systems before I settled on linux mint, ubuntu would have been my second choice if mint hadn't worked out .... it just works and after the disaster upgrades that Microsoft inflicted on my poor windows 7 computer it made a very pleasant change ...thru having said that I had to set up my spare computer with windows 10 as a working from home computer as the help desk at work wouldn't provide support for anything other than win10 and have been pleasantly surprised with how well it's been working.

[Propfam 2,286]

9 hours ago, SIM-ple Jack said:

Win7 killed off half the apps I had in XP, and I'm just about restored now. Had another PC with 10, and hated it. Now they're going to try and force 11 on us. Good luck with that.

7 hours ago, Ocram's Razr said:

Windows Vista was worse than 7.

That's why Windows 2000 is the best version of Windows in terms of quality. Sure, there are some fatal security flaws, incompatible with 9x, and lacks 64-bit support (they could make a 64-bit 2000 but 2003 came along and suddenly there's no need for 64-bit 2000 anymore). But if you have apps from the NT era, you can certainly run those apps seamlessly, to even the UI. Windows 7 is the second contender, with Vista consistency and additional polish, though it had some legacy code that aren't seamless with the rest of the OS. XP is legendary for many reasons, but not perfect. Apps before XP (famously those VB6 apps) needed to make a manifest file to even get an XP-styled button. That's insane. Not to mention even more fatal security flaws till SP2/SP3 and no one trust XP security without antivirus. Oh yeah, the cmd is 2000-styled for some reason, though the behavior still existed till Microsoft decided to revamp the cmd in Windows 10.

[Whte_rbt 1,431]

Is anyone else getting nothing but stop/start video and interupted sound?

Well done MicroSucks, another utter failure of a launch event!

Why change the habit of a lifetime.

[Whte_rbt 1,431]

Having now watched the entire launch video, I'm less than impressed. I know launch events are pitched at the general public but that was just insulting. Generally bad delivery from at least two of the presenters (The dude in the red Nike sneakers and the woman delivering the game section sounded like they were reading it off a teleprompter that was running too slow).

 Not a fan of my phone and computer forming one environment. If the network goes down during transfer what then? Also less than happy about MS Store featuring so heavily, really shouldn't have to pay monthly to use a computer I have already purchased.

First reaction was 'Oh, they've stolen the dock arrangement from Apple and then topped it off by swiping the Widgets idea from KDE Plasma.'

[Propfam 2,286]

On 24/6/2021 at 10:57 PM, Whte_rbt said:

First reaction was 'Oh, they've stolen the dock arrangement from Apple and then topped it off by swiping the Widgets idea from KDE Plasma.'

That's exactly what I thought.

Also, Windows 11 only supports Kaby Lake or Zen+ (which Microsoft confusingly named Zen 2, which is different in AMD language). It means that 8th gen is supported, no surprise. But there is a caveat, only the Ryzen 2xxx desktop SKUs are supported. The APU variants (G and U SKUs) in the series aren't supported at all due to they have the OG Zen inside instead of the required Zen+. I suspect this due to the lack of Meltdown and Spectre mitigations in the hardware side for older processor. Sure, software mitigations exist, but they come with performance penalty (and some aren't perfect). So Microsoft cuts the support before Kaby Lake and Zen+. Also, if you have 2000 series APUs, consider to upgrade to 3000 series since they comes with Zen+.

Addendum: great news. Since their requirement is killing their own Surface Studio 2, they allow 7th gen and the OG Zen to run Windows 11. 6th gen status is in limbo, pre-Zen won't be supported, though.

[AsimPika3172 1,129]

Use this tool for detecting your PC can support Windows 11 or not!

https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

My PC can support Windows 11! 

I will update it anytime soon! Just for FINAL RELEASE! 

[Prince Siegfried 7]

What's the new browser called? I don't know why thought they were going to beat out Chrome by giving it a new name of something. Microsoft Fall? You were on the edge (Microsoft Edge). How about Microsoft Saved....Bill Gates saved us from the inconvenient Chrome. Just face it, Billy. No one users the browser anymore. You're trying to bring Blockbuster stores back, and people have Amazon. Maybe you should go into the bookselling business. Or launch your own rockets into space. 

[Alejandro24 575]

I see Win11 coming as Win Vista did with WinXP. The current requirements for the OS are literally dropping most of the current computers being used in the world, which in the current situation of the semiconductor crisis is something that we shouldn't be considering.

Also, many of its "features" are things that actually are not surprising. Others are just, plain stupid, like sticking the taskbar to the bottom always just because it is neat for tablet use (please, what kind of excuse is that?).

 

Better move to a Linux distro with KDE Plasma, it already does what Win11 does and with a better implementation.

[QuantumChicken 82]

I am using windows 10 and , while have many bugs in it, I plan to use it until the end of service life. Win 11 will not work on my IvyBridge-E workstation. I cannot use UEFI as I have enterprise SAS RAID controllers that do not work in UEFI mode.

[AsimPika3172 1,129]

And now.... Windows 11 is RELEASED! Enjoy! But my PC will update it anytime soon. Meanwhile...

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-windows-11-slows-cpus-up-to-15-patch-coming

There are some buggy with AMD Ryzen chip which was becomes slow suddenly. Microsoft and AMD will make fix version very soon.

[RobertLM78 1,597]

Long  time Mint user here though i'm considering moving back to Ubuntu (MATE  edition,  of course), so i can help out too if you ever make the change

On 6/22/2021 at 3:27 PM, Ocram's Razr said:

I might upgrade to linux in a few years.

 

[Turnstyled 485]

I installed Windows 11 on my PC in early September. I've had an influx of application updates in the past few days because Windows 11 has been officially released. Those updates were to make those applications compatible with Windows 11. I used StartIsBack with Windows 8, its next iteration, StartIsBack +, with Windows 8.1, and its subsequent iteration, StartIsBack++, with Windows 10. Now that Windows 11 is out, it has a release as StartAllBack. Since I already had a license for its previous iterations, I had a discount of 1.50 USD for StartAllBack. It fixes most of my issues with Windows 11. I get a normal Start Menu with a Windows XP-style flyout menu, the Windows 10 Windows Explorer ribbon UI, and a normal right-click context menu that I don't have to click twice to get to.

I'm still waiting on DisplayFusion for my multi-monitor setup to be further updated to be better compatible with Windows 11. As @AsimPika3172 said, there is currently a latency issue with Ryzen CPUs and that'll be fixed in this month's Windows Update.

The amount of hoops that you have to jump through to disable Microsoft Defender Antivirus in Windows 11 is insane.

[AsimPika3172 1,129]

Windows 11 Build 22000.282 is now updated with...

FIXED AMD RYZEN USERS including my PC

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/10/15/releasing-windows-11-build-22000-282-to-beta-and-release-preview-channels/

Enjoy!