Toll Booth Blues

[huzman 445]

When trying to place a Tool Booth in an avenue connecting two cities, I got this glitch. So I tested it again in a road bit and a bit of avenue and they showed OK.
But in the connecting avenue, nothing doing. I went to another city and tried in another avenue, and same glitch.

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

It's a side effect of your slope mod.  On the left side of my pic, I used the level tool near the edge of the map and then drew the avenue.

 

[jeffryfisher 2,176]

I have similar troubles with RTMT bus stops sometimes. In my case, the building has stricter slope requirements than the underlying network, so some geometries break the road (rather than showing a red building ghost preventing placement).

See if you can get better result after leveling. If you don't have it already, find the god-mode-as-mayor mod.

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

2 minutes ago, jeffryfisher said:

If you don't have it already, find the god-mode-as-mayor mod.

Shift+Ctrl+Alt whilst clicking the god mode button gets you there too. Or, since we only need to level where the toll booth will go and 4 tiles each direction of the avenue's path then the mayor mode pay as you go leveling tool isn't cost prohibitive either.

[rsc204 21,808]

Basically you must have level ground for TE lots such as these to work, it's worse for avenues because the two-tile size of them makes it harder for the game to automatically work it out for you.

• Start by removing the avenue for about a 6 tile stretch.
• Place down stubs (by clicking each individual tile with the road tool) for a 4x2 area, leaving a gap of 1 tile each side from the remaining avenue.
• Remove the stubs, which will have flattened perfectly the 4x2 area, in the middle place the Toll Booth.
• Now drag through the tool booth, again leaving the 1 tile gap either side before the remaining avenue network. I.e. the Toll Booth and avenue are now covering the tiles where you used the stubs.
• It should now be possible to re-connect the avenue up, but if you get an error, simply keep removing tiles of the section not connected to the Toll Booth until it works.

[huzman 445]

5 hours ago, CorinaMarie said:

It's a side effect of your slope mod.

Ha, so that's it. That means I should level the terrain out for the length of the avenue? Yes, I'm answering my own question. But what is your leveling tool?

 

4 hours ago, CorinaMarie said:

pay as you go leveling tool isn't cost prohibitive either

again, what's the "leveling tool"?

 

[huzman 445]

1 hour ago, rsc204 said:

Basically you must have level ground for TE lots such as these to work,

Again, which are those?

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

7 minutes ago, huzman said:

again, what's the "leveling tool"?

This one under the Shovel and Tree menu icon:

 

And, ofc, @rsc204's suggestion of using single click road stubs for leveling gives even more precise control.

[huzman 445]

23 minutes ago, CorinaMarie said:

@rsc204's suggestion of using single click road stubs for leveling gives even more precise control.

I tried those, one tail rail, ped malls, one tile road, streets and all of them. glitch. But the leveling tool in God Mode looks best. Of course, it means working on two sides of two cities, but that's what SC4 is all about. Ain't it?

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

1 minute ago, huzman said:

glitch.

It might be related to the particular slope mod. I know in my vanilla only days I used the Street for my single click leveling. Once I installed Ennedi's slope mod the Streets no longer worked like that, but the Road did. (Just me guessing and not really providing any help this time. )

[markussaage 762]

Well,

you could also use the simple Road tool (you drag the roads with it) to level the terrain by clicking single road tiles over the map in a zig-zag pattern, or drag the rail tracks up or down a slope to make it nice and smooth.

Kind regards!

[huzman 445]

10 hours ago, CorinaMarie said:

Streets no longer worked like that, but the Road did.

That is my case too. Anyway, I just came back from my local SOUP (Sectional Office of Urban Planing) and they confirmed that the problem of the Toll Booth is due to slopes and the Leveling Tool was a good solution.

 

12 hours ago, rsc204 said:

you must have level ground for TE lots such as these to work,

That works pretty good. You should join my local SOUP.

Thanks to both of you for your help.

[huzman 445]

6 hours ago, markussaage said:

you could also use the simple Road tool

Oh boy, you missed the bus! Your post and the answers were already mentioned. But merci beaucoup anyway.

[huzman 445]

On 8/27/2017 at 6:10 PM, CorinaMarie said:

Shift+Ctrl+Alt whilst clicking the god mode button gets you there too

My local SOUP center says that we were the ones that posted to that God Mode trick. No harm done. We still love you

[CorinaMarie 29,605]

5 minutes ago, huzman said:

My local SOUP center says that we were the ones that posted to that God Mode trick. No harm done. We still love you

As I recall, you asked if anyone knew about this and several of us said: Yep.

[huzman 445]

5 hours ago, CorinaMarie said:

As I recall, you asked if anyone knew about this and several of us said: Yep.

True. Thus I never claimed paternity of it.
In my "All the Cheats..." file, I mentioned " Contributed by: Cydoor (Note: This the first time I find a contributor to this ‘cheat’. huzman). "