Chicago BAT Project

[Darknono35 3,137]

Gorgeous work !!! BAT of the century

[darn42 1,268]

After one of the most productive days in my life, I present you, the Jeweler's building almost fully modeled and almost fully textured.

 

 

Gotta do the ducts, the stores, the blinds, the walls, import the runners for the walls and then she is complete.

 

Best thing is, because it's just a brick wall, and almost all of my details are modeled, I don't have to rely on fancy materials. Render time is 5 minutes for a z5 atm

[vester_DK 477]

Amazing details.

 

To bad, a lot of it is lost in the export.

 

Still I do it myself. Make way to detailed models.

[unclesahm 32]

Truly stunning work.

[darn42 1,268]

And now it's time for nightlights!!!

 

 

I decided to keep no window shades, it ended up looking worse with them installed.

[unclesahm 32]

How big will it be?? 4x4?

[darn42 1,268]

It'll be 4x4 if I can't figure out how to make a couple parts overhang.

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Hey Darn.

 

I think night lights might be a bit premature. If I'm being really honest you are letting down some of the most exquisite modelling work we've seen with, I'm sorry to say, very average texturing.

 

Its up to you if you want to continue this way, its not entirely bad, but given the work that went into the modelling I think its a shame not to put the same amount of effort into the textures.

 

As someone who also likes to model the detail I respectfully disagree that you can get away with simple textures because of detailed modelling.

 

To show what I mean, I've attached a close-up of the cupola.

 

1) There's antiquing in the detail and mouldlings. Age and grime has sunk into the crevices giving it a distinct antiqued look

2) There's signs of weathering and dripping from rain.

3) There's not just one material. e.g. The pillars aren't made of bricks. Even if you have modelled the bricks, the grouting/cement isn't the same as the bricks. You appear to have applied one texture all-over?

4) Possibly more of a design choice than a requirement, but these images show the material with a warm blush, yours is very much on the colder greenish side.

 

 

 

Of course its up to you, even if you do nothing its still an amazing model

[darn42 1,268]

I needed that. I stopped looking at it objectionally because I was excited. Thank you.

[Vlasky 1,803]

You sir is classy! What a way you've accepted critique! Everyone should look up to you.

 

Different materials require different bitmaps, but in the image above from what I can see is that all elements are made of limestone. Limestone tends to get warmer color as it ages.

 

When shading for ageing marks, one needs to be very subtle. You don't want your building to get dirty and abandoned looks, but just get some nice feel to it.

 

And most importantly, never loose your patience and take your time!

[Darknono35 3,137]

....     , it's all

[darn42 1,268]

I love being wrong and people catch me and say, "hey, you idiot, you did something wrong" before I go off and make a mistake. Thanks Red, this looks so much better now. I didn't add too much in photoshop. Mostly just some ambient occlusion stuff because I realized that the biggest details missing were grime around the modeled details. The Facade I saw was mostly clean except for some little dustings.

 

I'm going to change the trim on the middle section, it's too close together and it's strangling the building in that spot, but other than that I think I am satisfied

 

 

Would you guys say it's ready for nightlights then? I'm gonna export anyways, it's a quick one.

[Vlasky 1,803]

Oooh, so much better. But It's a bit too green. I took a liberty to photoshop your building, and this is what I did,

 

I took out green, added a tad of red, a tad of yellow, and darkened it quite a bit. This is the outcome (I was aiming for the outcome from the picture posted by rdq)

 

 

Looking at it now, even my version looks too green. So maybe go heavy on reducing green...

[darn42 1,268]

The green however was on purpose. That's just my stylistic preference. I'm not a big fan of reds. That much is definitely staying how it is. Thanks for the input though.

 

Here's just a minimalist render of it to show more of the details.

 

[Vlasky 1,803]

You don't have to add red, you can just take out green a bit. Just a bit. But if this is how you want it to be and you're satisfied, mmkay than

[darn42 1,268]

I'll take out a little green. The real building is, I agree, a lot more red than I have it. Probably too big of a difference atm to call it artistic license for a recreation. 

[Reddonquixote 4,338]

Much much better   (I do like Vlasky's photoshopped version though... ).. but as you say its artistic preference

 

Ps. I hope you didn't really get "hey you idiot" from my post.. that wasn't intended at all. If you did.. sorry

[darn42 1,268]

No, of course I didnt actually think about it that way

[SimCoug 5,972]

Amazing work Darn!  Were you still planning on making the rotunda a separate prop, as T Wrecks suggested ?  I think that would be really neat.

[edwardjeria 503]

Cool

[noahclem 262]

Wonderfully detailed model! Great work Darn & Co, very nice to see these Chicago recreations.

 

If you're taking requests I'd love to see the Chicago Mercantile Exchange / 20 S Wacker Dr.

[darn42 1,268]

So the day view is all rendered out and ready. 

 

Here is a preview of the night lights. I have a ton of kinks to work out and perfect but this should be indicative of the facade illumination in the future. As for the windows, there's going to be a lot more work on them and their distribution. I don't really have as much experience with window lighting yet. 

 

 

 

Btw, opinions on the ambient lighting from the base?

[Ferrt 102]

What a terrific BAT! 

[tonyr 926]

I can't wait to to get my dl on. Simply Beautiful!

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Ambient lighting from the base looks great to me, very realistic!

 

As for the window light, it looks like you're going to pull the full monty, i.e. modeling out and lighting the interior? That sounds like a ton of work, and I guess it will be hard to avoid obvious repetition of the interior... in terms of light intensity, however, I think you're absoluely on the right track.

 

The flood lights on the crown look spot on to me. *ba-dumm tss* Those around the middle section seem a tad too intense, however, or is this how they really are IRL?

[Darknono35 3,137]

Wow, it's an good start for the night version so far. I really like the color variation of the omni light, it's so beautiful

Street ambient lighting is just perfect to me. I agree with T Wrecks about the light around the middle part of the tower, I think you could down the light intensity

So, now, I can't wait to see the result of the lighting by the inside

 

Keep it up buddy

[Vlasky 1,803]

It does look great! I especially love little domes and how light hits them. 

 

I'm not sure about the light on the base's sides because there is no light source for them. 

[darn42 1,268]

Some more progress.

 

 

There's something I don't like about the night lights atm but I can't figure out what it is. Something just seems off. Any thoughts?

 

Btw, vlasky, it's not really a light source, it's just a yellow box casting fg on the building to simulate street lights and cars and city life in general.

[Darknono35 3,137]

Gorgeous lighting. I like it

[darn42 1,268]

I rather like the lighting now. Thoughts?