Busses on solo mode?

[ben995 0]

Dose anyone know of a mod "hack" that will give people the ability to have busses in solo play???

I really want to play with mass transit but im really not into coughing up the $10 or so a mounth so i can use the mass transit.

[Xyloxadoria 1,099]

There is no "hack" and trying to hack the game would be illegal. If you want mass transit you will HAVE to use Plaent Offer. It is the only way you can legally have it.

[ben995 0]

See this is whats making me mad about this game and not making me wan't to pay for PO.

They should have it all standerd and for free. I already payed for the game it self? Why do i have to pay for more content and online?

This game is just a waste of my money and time.

[His Divine Hand 244]

No. They should have just dropped single player all together and only focused on the mmo part if that is what they were trying to do. After all, does World of Warcraft let you play a single player game? Do any of the big name mmo's have a single player? Monte Cristo should have just gone all out mmo if that was their strategy. Let the players unwilling to do an mmo go cry in a corner.

[wafgking 22]

Actually MC promised busses would be available free in solo mode. They may have back peddled from that, but i remember they said so during the beta when we complained about the lack of mass transit. It is also why there is a bus button in solo mode that does nothing.

So honestly... I don't know how I feel about hacking it in. If someone did it, I probably would download it.

[Mastaflex 0]

Originally posted by: His Divine Hand

No. They should have just dropped single player all together and only focused on the mmo part if that is what they were trying to do. After all, does World of Warcraft let you play a single player game? Do any of the big name mmo's have a single player? Monte Cristo should have just gone all out mmo if that was their strategy. Let the players unwilling to do an mmo go cry in a corner.quote>

*facepalm*.... WoW =/= Cities XL... subscription fees aren't a genre(I can't believe people still use the WoW example).

The thing with solo is that devs aren't supposed to waste time on it and I don't think they do, so there. Charge extra for extra content who cares but it's obvious now and it was obvious then that subscription fees for a city building game would never go very far. Maybe it will go far, maybe it won't but they are losing big time money now from people figuring out you have to subscribe to play the full game.

And Monte Cristo should have gone all out solo if it cared about gaming more then salaries.

[TomSe001 0]

They should have focused on single player gaming. MMO for this type of game is extremely limited to deals and trades (at this moment). Something I'm not willing to pay that much for (7 EUR). I'm hoping on an expansion pack with the mass transit and additional stuff. Until that is available, Im really not interested in playing this game at all. SC4 currently still is the better choice for me, even if everything about it is 'outdated'.

[bluespottedhorse 49]

contact MC and make a request to add in solo mode. It's probably in the works as we speak.

[Asheroo 53]

Originally posted by: bluespottedhorse

contact MC and make a request to add in solo mode. It's probably in the works as we speak.quote>

It's very likely they will with the recent survery, but you will have to pay a very little amount. Why? Well, it's extra content. What you paid for CXL solo mode is what you have there, the main engine of the game, and now it builds up and you pay very small amounts of pay for each new content. Anyway, no jumping to conclusions yet on how much it could be, all I can say is just wait for some news on this, then make up your minds.

(Btw, is talking about hacking ok here at ST?)

[DazzaDazza 29]

Originally posted by: wafgking

Actually MC promised busses would be available free in solo mode. They may have back peddled from that, but i remember they said so during the beta when we complained about the lack of mass transit. It is also why there is a bus button in solo mode that does nothing.

So honestly... I don't know how I feel about hacking it in. If someone did it, I probably would download it.quote>

Where did they promises that? They never did, there is a differences between them promising something and you excepting something.    

[valhum 23]

In a way, i understand the cries, paying $10 bucks a month so you can just use Buses is kinda expensive. Besides that and the fact that you can trade, what else is offered for the fee ?!?!

[RegisterST2 0]

Originally posted by: mrdazza_460

Originally posted by: wafgking

Actually MC promised busses would be available free in solo mode. They may have back peddled from that, but i remember they said so during the beta when we complained about the lack of mass transit. It is also why there is a bus button in solo mode that does nothing.

So honestly... I don't know how I feel about hacking it in. If someone did it, I probably would download it.quote>

Where did they promises that? They never did, there is a differences between them promising something and you excepting something.    

quote>

For two years they clearly stated the single player game would have all the features of the online one.

Even 4 short months ago, Matthew from MC was on here saying that even though they backtracked on mass transit, buses would be available for single player mode users.

It's really too bad they deleted the CU/CXL forums.  Too bad for us, that is.  Quite convenient for MC.

[DazzaDazza 29]

I don't believe they did at CU. When ever a subject matter came that they did not won't to answer, they simply ignored it and relaced information that had nothing to do with what we where asking. The way I remember it all of the promising came from people that spoke for MC and not from them. Again they never promised anything to anyone. I don't know where every one get this information from. As for in the beta didn't they always maintain that mass transit would be free to PO subscribers.

[wafgking 22]

Originally posted by: mrdazza_460

I don't believe they did at CU. When ever a subject matter came that they did not won't to answer, they simply ignored it and relaced information that had nothing to do with what we where asking. The way I remember it all of the promising came from people that spoke for MC and not from them. Again they never promised anything to anyone. I don't know where every one get this information from. As for in the beta didn't they always maintain that mass transit would be free to PO subscribers.quote>

I remember them promising free buses but not further mass transit.  Unfortunately they have deleted their forums and any reference, so it leaves me with no proof.

The closer it got to launch, the worse the silence and overall attitude.  Its why you had so many people leave the community and not buy the game.

I don't care if you do or do not believe me. There are others that do remember.   As noted by others its very convienent for them to delete their forums.  As they came to Simtropolis and other websites asking people to join so that we could contribute ideas and so that they could discuss the game and help them improve the game.  I can't imagine it cost them much to run a forum.  So it just goes to show that they didn't want criticism, nor a past of what was discussed, what ideas where offered, or what they backpeddled from.

[DazzaDazza 29]

Did you read theses statement directly from MC e.g. Mathew, Gregory, and the other guy how name escapes me. Or did you hear them from 3 rd parties. I just don't remember them ever saying anything was free, or what they where going or not going to charge for, as I remember they where very vague about theses details, they where very vague about most thing acutely, that probably why we are in the situation we are in now. but if they did at what stage of the development did they make these statement, because the game changed a lot from the start to the end product

[Livin in Sim 83]

Hi, everyone,

That's true, Asheroo; talk about hacking is very much frowned upon at Simtropolis; that's a word to the wise.

This thread is becoming a bit argumentative as well.  It is rather pointless to debate what was or wasn't said/promised.  We only know what the game contains at this point, and are playing--or not.  Time and time only will tell what is to come.

It's just a game, folks, so go out and have fun with whichever one you choose. 

Thanks!

--Liv

[Ocram's Razr 963]

Somebody definately promised buses free for Solo Play. Exact words were "if not at release, then shortly afterward in a patch." I remember free was certainly promised. They will have to release some sort of pack for solo mode or a number of supporters will become detractors and CitiesXL will go out with a wimper.They could charge if they included trains.

[RegisterST2 0]

Originally posted by: mrdazza_460

I don't believe they did at CU. When ever a subject matter came that they did not won't to answer, they simply ignored it and relaced information that had nothing to do with what we where asking. The way I remember it all of the promising came from people that spoke for MC and not from them. Again they never promised anything to anyone. I don't know where every one get this information from. As for in the beta didn't they always maintain that mass transit would be free to PO subscribers.quote>

This is why I still follow these forums.  It's interesting to see how things have developed over the course of time, and how different people remember the same things differently.

I followed the development since the early days of CU.  The game disappointed me (at least it did during beta...so now I'm in a wait and see mode), but I still check in just because I find the project interesting.  It's interesting to see how it developed from a mass lovefest back on the CU forums, to slight trepidation as PO became more and more the focus, to the backlash that ensued on the beta forums to finally what we have here...supporters, detractors, everything in between, and and totally different views on what MC did and said over the past two years.

Like a psychological petri dish.  I just find it fascinating to watch.

[morriswalters 16]

Enjoy the game for what it is right now, not for what you think it might be. If you don't like it today, you should have no expectation that it will ever be better.  This type of expectation breeds disappointment.  What MC did or did not promise has no bearing on the game at all.  The game is what it is.  The only bearing MC's statements have about anything would be one of trust.  And individules have to decide how important that is to them.

[valhum 23]

So far, the game is fun, you can make pretty cities and all.

I think we need to stop thinking SimCity 4and just enjoy this different entry in the City simulation. I swear, i just tried the whole walking around my city and WOW, just because of that, this game is worth it, looking at my skylines, the houses, soooo damn cool

[ben995 0]

Im just really disipointed. I thought and hoped it would be somthing like sim city 4 with it all.

We really can't do anything if MC doesn't want to change it.

[Urbangamer1 0]

I've been quite tempted to buy this game recently. I really want a new city builder as I'm finished with SC4(I love it but I've played it far too much over the years) The real problem is CXL is the only half decent city builder about...they have no competition! I don't really even want the game...lol....I had so much disappointment after being in the beta & hearing all the lies & deception from MC.

The posts above stating that one of the MC reps said we were getting buses in single player mode for free are 100% correct. I remember it clear as day as I thought this would be something that I could look forward to in the already stripped back single player version. I'm now in a quandry as I want another city builder but don't want to settle for this game. Yes it's pretty, yes it has curved roads but to be honest, it really doesn't have much else going for it. The gameplay mechanics are weird. I don't like the token system, etc.....I literally could list at least 20 things i don't like about it...lol....

I really hope you guys get buses or some form of public transport in the single player. There is no way I will ever pay

[City Planner 121]

Originally posted by: mrdazza_460

I don't believe they did at CU. When ever a subject matter came that they did not won't to answer, they simply ignored it and relaced information that had nothing to do with what we where asking. The way I remember it all of the promising came from people that spoke for MC and not from them. Again they never promised anything to anyone. I don't know where every one get this information from. As for in the beta didn't they always maintain that mass transit would be free to PO subscribers.quote>

MC did promise busses in solor mode and other forms of mass transport would appear in the PO.  It wasn't until about the last 2 or 3 months of beta that they renigged on that and then said that busses would be for PO only.  It put up a huge stink cloud that managed to push many consumers away from the title.

You're choice to believe it or not is your own, however I have a very destinct recollection of what happened.

[jeje71 6]

Originally posted by: mrdazza_460

Did you read theses statement directly from MC e.g. Mathew, Gregory, and the other guy how name escapes me quote>

that was official statement or you call Dirk a liar

http://blog.simtropolis.com/post.cfm/is-cities-xl-mass-transit-worth-the-fuss

the concerned extract:

"So, to answer in a very straightforward manner: yes, public transportation will be part of the content made available for Planet Offer subscribers. Except for the bus system, as it is mentioned as free additional content for everyone on the Cities XL Information web page."

what they did is say something then retract. there was no 'misunderstanding' as they said after, they just changed their opinion and didn't even assume it.

[whiterabbit2015 0]

It's not the first and only time that promises were made and then broken by MC. Don't forget all the complaints from people about having the forums on citiesxl.com purged completely or all the items released in the beta that were not released or changed for the final release. Let's also consider this statement from the same blog regarding the quality of solo play versus online:

Consider, that in the past, Monte Cristo has, on numerous occassions, assured us that their intention is to build a great single-player city-building experience first, and that the online subscriber aspect would be an additional optional experience.

Seems to me that MC's focus has been almost completely focused on the online aspect of the game rather than the single player, which is still woefully bugged and handicapped.

[moaku 74]

Humm... Nice good-old-souvenirs thread... Remembers me a lot of fun-time by reading posts in deleted forums when "things started enworsing"

[ben995 0]

I agree with all of you. We are getting chinced out (cheeped out) by MC. There's nothing we really can do I guess? We're just going to have to suck it up, and be left with what we have in solo mode.

It's a great game just suck's we can't get all the features without paying an addition cost.

Btw thanks for making it more clear to me, that this game pretty much is a pain in the ass. :/

Lets hope that this will eventually get resolved.