Aaron Graham's BATs

[gutterclub 2,729]

few points..

I thought the render you did of Timpson row was great, even back then..bricks do not always have to match up..much like in real life, but you are free to do as you wish and if feel that re-batting it is the best way then by all means do so

Yes, such NYC themed street mod would be great and once Girafe publishes those props I do wonder if uncle T Wrecks might knock together a little mod and share it as I'm terrible at modding.

As for me mentioning the trees, what I was alluding to is would you release the trees, as they are as a prop pack. I would really like to use them on my lots and we can always use more next gen tree props to go with Simfoxes and Girafes, even if it's one or two trees.

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

The Worthington Apartments is uploaded :party: :party:

The Old Worthington Apartments is Delete Off STEX

RIP you will not be forgotting. :cry:

Okay guys well I'm not the only one with the STEX uploading problem is an ST issue now.

Here's the link.

  Edited October 23, 2012 by Aaron Graham  

[Susaji 523]

Nice,and thanks for sharing!

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Merry Christmas to all!!!!

I have a gift from me to the Sim City 4 Community, Just click on the image.

Edit: For those who do not know what i'm talking about, look at the STEX. I have something better that a picture of a wrapped gift.

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Okay time to get this thread up and running again.

The Franklin Apartments renovation

Okay guys, Francis90b been wanting me to renovate this building for a long time now and I think it's time to do a slow process of it renovating, I have renovated it back in early 2013 around January. I am looking for to making variations for this building too.

I hope father Francis90b likes it, but there still need some stuff on it and some things may need to go.

[Darknono35 3,138]

Great job like always

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Darknono35- Thank you for comment.

 

Franklin Apartments

 

Here's another update on the building, the skylight and the extra pipe line on the roof comes from a dear friend of mine, Francis90b.  He's the guy that make me try to look closely at the roof objects, but it can be hard to tell what is what.

 

 

[Vlasky 1,803]

Ooooh, they look so fancy with this new color scheme Great job!

[Jack_wilds 550]

that 'place holder'' technique for teh texture sure makes for dramatic improvement... who knew... its a neat redo...

[mattb325 28,890]

The new, warmer colour scheme looks very nice

[tagtag 12]

I love these buildings.  Every one of them.

Question:  I use the buildingplop cheat a lot, and I can't ever find them...any idea what file name they appear under?

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Vlasky- Thank you!!!

Jack_wilds- Thank you!!!

mattb325- Thank you!!!

tagtag- Thank you, Here's the link to the buildingplop cheat, it's called "SimCity 4 Extra Cheats Plugin"

[gutterclub 2,729]

I think he meant the exemplar name. It begins with AG, should find all Aarons non NYB bats there

[Darknono35 3,138]

Wow gorgeous new version for your building. But it will be possible to keep the old version with this version ? I want to add variations with your models in my cities

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

gutterclub Lol stupid me. Yeah my non NYBT buildings are under AG, and NYBT buildings Start with NYBT.

Darknono35- Thank you, It's be possible, my plans was to replace the model, so if you install it it might remove the old version. I have a while to go on the building and will have to think about how I will work that out.

[tagtag 12]

I think he meant the exemplar name. It begins with AG, should find all Aarons non NYB bats there

 

Thanks!  

[libellibicus 396]

Very nice indeed

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Aronic Place

Here's an apartment building I ahve started months ago, it's base on the apartment in Brooklyn, NY. I hope you guys like.



Here's the tower version, I may not release it do to what Franis90b said to me months ago.

[Roger51 381]

I would take both!!! But thats just me :D Love them Aaron

[Darknono35 3,138]

Great work as always

I cańt wait to add this two beauty in my game.

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Oh, the great Aaron, Sir!

 

Da Apartment-Aaron!

[Jasoncw 11,941]

Both new buildings look great! 

[edwardjeria 503]

very nice my friend

forgive my ignorance but how many floors will the tower?

[Sunv 156]

Both BATs are looking great.

[Delecto 941]

[urielgarcia 344]

I really love the tower version Aaron - beautiful!       

[shinkansen1 84]

Whatever it was Franis90b said to you that makes you not want to release the tower version, I don't agree with it. It's just too good to shelf.

[Francis90b 748]

Aronic Place

Here's the tower version, I may not release it do to what Franis90b said to me months ago.

 

 

Wait...what i've told months ago was, to look at the bulk and massing rules contained within the zoning regulations that were in place when that building was built.

 

The existing building looks like it could have been built anytime from 50's to 70s, and in 1961 New York switched to a new set of zoning rules that mostly abandoned the rigid bulk and massing rules that forced most of pre-1961 buildings as "wedding cake" masses, rising from the ground then tapering in a series of setbacks.

 

According to pre 1961 rules, the tower portion of "aronic place" could not have been built in the way in which you've designed it (should someone ask for it,i can provide all the details that led me to that conclusion) - but perhaps post-1961 rules were in most cases more flexible.

 

This building could be modified, and do well, as a 1950's wedding cake (or partly wedding cake), tower building (still affected by pre 1961 rules) or as a bulky, straight 1970's tower (built after 1961 new zoning codes)...

 

...all you need to do is simply to look at the rules (pick just what you need to know, for Lord's sake!), and decide which way to go....you may have many alternatives, and all of them would fit with a specific moment of Nyc evolution...not knowing the rules would likely lead you to a result that "somehow" imitates "NYC" "style(s)", without ever coming close to any of them - turning out to be just  a shallow mock up.

 

I would digress here, and state that among the things i really like in buildings there are the dumbbell shapes of 1880-1900 NYC tenements, prewar chicago towers (bulkier, shorter and less wedding-cake than NYC ones), and the Philly prewar downtown buildings shaped by the conflict between desire for height and the desire not to surpass william penn's statue atop the city hall...Many things we might find interesting IRL were not shaped by lack of rules, and unlimited possibilities unleashed in this way, but by strict and specific limitations peculiar to place to place, and by people's way to cope with them.

Knowing what thoser rules were, what they dictated and why, allows someone who would like to "design" a building model from scratch (or modify an existing one) to add another layer to his creation - probably adding elements no designer (RL architect or internet BATer) could have ever thought about, weren't it for some "pesky", "irrelevant" rules which forced him to do so....

[T Wrecks 10,210]

I have no idea what Francis said (where is he anyway?). All I can say is that the only problem I see with the tower version is that the podium doesn't look right somehow. Now don't get me wrong: The modeling job per se is awesome as usual. There's something about the overall architecture that rubs me the wrong way, although I can't put my finger on it. The upper two thirds of the tall part as a tower section might work, but not in combination with the current base. I'm sure you could turn it into a BAT the way it is now, and hundreds of people would gladly download it, but I still think it would look somewhat awkward.

 

EDIT

 

So there you are, Francis! Do you have to come out from under the rock you've been hiding just to cross-post with me? OK everybody, so my post is probably obsolete now - I only saw Francis' reply after I submitted my post.

[Jack_wilds 550]

throwing in my 2 cents worth... I also like the tower... what I think could resolve the 'awkwardness' of it can be resolved through more progress... I think it will depend on its street appearance, where its entry is and some how make for a 'transition' with the tower...

 

also one could say 'a fictional interpretation' and have the the tower act as an addition... and as we all know additions don't always jive with existing... and I also think there is a great amount of latitude in modeling here as SC4 cities isn't Manhattan nor does the sims use the precise application of the Manhattan building codes... where in lies that 'latitude' of interpretation by the modeller to arrive at, for a workable, build-able, as close to historical as need wanted and all function right for the game...

 

I think SG has enough senibiltity to resolve the issues of street awkwardness and other concerns for a great model that will populate many sims cities everywhere... so, AG got a rabbit to pull out of the hat?