nybt-forum-threads NYBT BAT Thread

[nofunk 1,933]

Those brownstones are verrrrry deep!

[simcity4fan12 13]

Well, they are based on some in RL. I used a google earth image, since I use sketchup to get the RL dimensions. Unfortunately, they weren't wide, at all. They were deep, but not wide. The RL widith wouldn't even fit W2W if the widith was 1 tile wide! Unless I packed a bunch together as a 1x2. Now, It's 2 on a 1x3 lot. I actually thought it was 2x3 at first, but got a unexpected surprise. I don't think their deepness will be much of a problem, unless someone only uses 1 of these brownstones and just places it in a 1x2 neighborhood...

[_Atticus 10]

Even though they may be based on the real ones, I still think that making 2x1 ones is a good idea since it is what most w2w structures are. Perhaps you could make 2 versions? Also, brownstones, as a general rule, aren't that colorful. Just suggestions

-Pingangster

[simcity4fan12 13]

I've seen pics of colorful ones, the ones that I made aren't really "colorful". These aren't the only versions that will be made ever, just ones that will be modeled like that. And most w2w structures aren't just 2x1.

[simcity4fan12 13]

Well, my first brown stone pack has been completed and released and I'm now moving on back to my other projects. Thanks for those who rated and commented on it!

Here's a preview of the back facade of WTC7 in the works.

The textures are shaded, to help prevent lagging(so far, it barely helps). The black lines that are in sketchup are hidden too.( they don't show up in the BAT by the way....)

Here's a preview of the loading dock.

I only did the little road part, but the entrance to the loading bay is still in the works. You can't really see the shape of the loading dock door, since the black lines are hidden for lagging-prevention purposes.

I have a new project I started on...since I put most of my others on hold for awhile: The Downtown Athletic Club. It's going to be easy and quick, so I started on it. It shouldn't really prevent me from finishing my other projects. Pics of the Downtown Athletic Club process coming up next.

[kellydale2003 2,276]

@simcity4fan12 - I swear if you don't switch to 3DS MAX I'm going to have to do something annoying! x]

The reason why it's lagging is because there's TOO much geometry. See with all your windows for your DAY render in Max, You could just make it one big spline and texture it, add raytrace, bump, and it the texture will create itself! Then you make a night model (just save another copy of your day model) and create seperate smaller splines with the same texture only add "self-illumination" to it.

Max is SOO much easier and convenient. This BAT would probably take you less than a week if you have good time (and how much better you get).

The sooner you switch - the less you'll regret. Your Bats are great - don't get me wrong. But you can be done in half the time, I thought Max was difficult and somewhat complicated, but honestly it's so easy when you know the steps (which I will provide of course). So PM me your e-mail address and I'll e-mail you back more information (dont ask questions just do it).

Life would be much easier

[simcity4fan12 13]

Patience young Kellydale, patience. Once I finish what I have started on already in sketchup I will switch to MAX. When I atleast finish WTC7 and 130 Liberty Street( I want to finish them first, I have gotten way to far on them...) I'll switch. I do want to finish things faster.

[Hanson784 165]

Searching around SimCity Polska looking for updates on Seraf's wonderful BAT of Bethseda Terrace I found out Grzego15 was working on 425 5th Avenue: http://www.simcitypolska.pl/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?48350.

Not sure if he's working on it still but if he isn't can someone from the site get in touch with him and let him know I could finish it for him.

Also, anyone else who has incomplete BAT projects I would be happy to work on them. I hate seeing all that effort go to waste and I have sometime to work on other projects. Let me know.

[simcity4fan12 13]

Thanks for offering help Hanson! I might have some... How's your projects coming along?

[kellydale2003 2,276]

@simcity4fan12 - You can BAT in both programs without having to throw one away No need to stop finishing one project in sketch because you have 3ds.

Ah you know what I mean - no details.

[Kryptowhite 9]

https://www.simtropolis.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=109&threadid=61095&STARTPAGE=41&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

seen that simcity4fan? I think it could help you out, he probably has some pics somewhere in there of the back.

[simcity4fan12 13]

Thanks, I'm browsing that thread now. I appreciate it!

A few announcements- Hanson784 is going to finish modeling the Bertelsmann Building for me and add nitelighting to my 130 Liberty StreetV2.

I don't think I will switch to 3dsmax just yet...I'm still contemplating about it... Maybe just not this soon...

Stay tuned for more updates. Maybe on some other buildings I'm working on.

@Jumpthefence-How's 77 Water Street? I hope you're still here!

[Jumpthefence 74]

Originally posted by: simcity4fan12

@Jumpthefence-How's 77 Water Street? I hope you're still here!

quote>

Oh, I'm far from gone.

I took you up on your Chinatown idea. I've been doing that all day today. I thought about doing the four buildings on the corners of Bayard & Mott. Right now I'm working on 72 Bayard Street. Hopefully I can provide some pictures by tomorrow.

I actually got so interested on that certain building that 77 Water Street hasn't been put on a lot yet! Heh heh.

I'm just going to keep the message brief at that and go back to BATing.

I don't have any long term projects this week so BATing should pick up.

Have a great Monady y'all!

[simcity4fan12 13]

Oh good, I'm glad your working on some China Town BATs! Do you need someone to put 77 Water Street on a lot? I can do that for you.

EDIT: A pic of the Down Town Athletic Club in the works. It's probably going to be the quickest Skyscraper BAT of that height that I'll finish. Maybe... It just seems so simple.

I need some pics of the very front's base. The side that faces the southern tip of Manhattan. Or, you can say the side that faces the back of the White Hall Building. (You can see the front in the pic, its just blank right now.) I have enough pics of the sides and back, just need the front.

[ozdaniel 4]

do you doing the White Hall Building also?

[Seraf 1,238]

Sorry for my absence lately but I was sick Now I'm back to work, but I have some problems with bat4max and ltbl (you can see it in thread about bat4max).

simcity4fan12 - nice start of the DAC.

[Vlasky 1,803]

Originally posted by: ozdaniel

do you doing the White Hall Building also?quote>

 

One of my favorites. I love how it changed through time.

I was asking simcity4fan12 which buildings are comming soon and I liked what I heard. Can't wait

[simcity4fan12 13]

@ozdaniel- Maybe soon, not just yet.

@Seraf- I'm glad you're not sick right now! I wish I could help with the BAT4max, but I don't use it just yet. I hope you can sort things out. Thanks for the comment on the DAC. The angle of the pic made some parts of it look odd, but that's sketchup's graphics for ya...

@Vlasky- Thanks for stopping by. My 130 Liberty Street will be finished soon after Hanson does some nitelighting for it. With that, I have less to worry about finishing things since he's finishing my Bertelsmann Building. Thank you Hanson! WTC7 will be finished soon, but it's taking a bit more time, maybe in a few more weeks, or two. Maybe a month... It depends on RL right now.

[simcity4fan12 13]

It looks finished, but it's not yet. The back is still unfinished, and I need to edit the roof. I'm trying to find a way to solve this lagging problem on this model. Hiding certain layers don't work anymore. It's getting rediculous. I fear it might take another month just finish one side even though the other sides took like a coulple of days. Does anyone here who use sketchup can help me with this? I'm trying something and I hope it will work. *Fingers crossed*

[Parisian 549]

Good Evening

The WTC 7 looks really awfull.

I ve seen that u were building the Bertelsmann Building in Times square too. It must be fuc*** hard because this tower is full of details..; Where are you in its construction?

I was wondering something, I m building New York in simcity 4 and I m so fan of this game. Models you're making and presenting in that Topic are upload in the SIMTROPOLIS EXCHANGE?

Thanks a lot for your answers

Parisian

[maikeli.1 12]

So simcity4fan12 what happened to the Bertelsmann building?

[simcity4fan12 13]

@Parisian-Thanks for that comment about my WTC7 Parisian.......its just the graphics, the model is not AWFUL....

Maybe I should quit on it and start over...*contemplating...*

@-maikeli.1-Hanson is finishing it for me. He's adding nightlighting to my 130 Liberty Street V2 right now, so he's going to finish BATing the Bertelsmann Building for me after that.

[redrummage 9]

Originally posted by: Parisian

Good Evening

The WTC 7 looks really awfull.

I ve seen that u were building the Bertelsmann Building in Times square too. It must be fuc*** hard because this tower is full of details..; Where are you in its construction?

I was wondering something, I m building New York in simcity 4 and I m so fan of this game. Models you're making and presenting in that Topic are upload in the SIMTROPOLIS EXCHANGE?

Thanks a lot for your answers

Parisianquote>

How can you say that, yet ask him in the same breath when something will be done.  Have respect for the process.  You do good nybt work keep it up. 

[kellydale2003 2,276]

So you get 3ds max working simcityfan?

EDIT: Oh btw - Thanks to Voar Tok I got my first and only upload unlocked!  So you can see what I did with gmax itself.

https://www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=19735

[Keegan V50 15]

Originally posted by: Parisian

Good Evening

The WTC 7 looks really awfull.

I ve seen that u were building the Bertelsmann Building in Times square too. It must be fuc*** hard because this tower is full of details..; Where are you in its construction?

I was wondering something, I m building New York in simcity 4 and I m so fan of this game. Models you're making and presenting in that Topic are upload in the SIMTROPOLIS EXCHANGE?

Thanks a lot for your answers

Parisianquote>

Dude can you show some respect??,at least he is learning more experiences throughout his BATting process and im very sure he will become a much better BATter later on.The 7 WTC looks fine simcityfan12,ignore those trolls and haters....

all the best

victor

 

[Larks2242 251]

Originally posted by: Parisian

Good Evening

The WTC 7 looks really awfull.

I ve seen that u were building the Bertelsmann Building in Times square too. It must be fuc*** hard because this tower is full of details..; Where are you in its construction?

I was wondering something, I m building New York in simcity 4 and I m so fan of this game. Models you're making and presenting in that Topic are upload in the SIMTROPOLIS EXCHANGE?

Thanks a lot for your answers

Parisianquote>

Wow i don't even know what to say about that uncalled for.

 

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Hoooold it, boys and girls. Before you start jumping on him, maybe take a breath and think.

His nick is "Parisian", and he made some mistakes in his posts - heck, he even spelled "awfull" with two "L". Doesn't it occur to you that he might indeed be a Frenchman from Paris, and hence speak English only as a foreign language? Maybe he simply mixed up "awesome" and "beautiful" and accidentally wrote "awful", unaware of what he actually said with that post.

So relax, give him (and yourselves) a break and let's wait until he comes back and explains his post. Remember that many users here are young and still learning some English, so there's always a risk of misunderstandings. And even those who are older might still make mistakes if English is not their native language.

[Parisian 549]

I m so sorry about my previous post, yes I m french and my english is sometimes approximative.

What I wanted to say about BATters who work here is simply WOW! I couldn't expect more when I ve found that site on the internet.

Buildings here are so realistic, and full of details. I ve made a mistake with awfull, I meant awsome.

Your work are sensationnal, I would like to be able to build such buildings, but I ve try with the BATool, but it seems to hard.

That the reason why when I ve discovered all the NYCbat projects on this topic, I was like WOW; happy to be with you all to see the progression of your work that I respect a lot.

Sorry for the previous post...

P.

[simcity4fan12 13]

Originally posted by: Parisian

I m so sorry about my previous post, yes I m french and my english is sometimes approximative.

What I wanted to say about BATters who work here is simply WOW! I couldn't expect more when I ve found that site on the internet.

Buildings here are so realistic, and full of details. I ve made a mistake with awfull, I meant awsome.

Your work are sensationnal, I would like to be able to build such buildings, but I ve try with the BATool, but it seems to hard.

That the reason why when I ve discovered all the NYCbat projects on this topic, I was like WOW; happy to be with you all to see the progression of your work that I respect a lot.

Sorry for the previous post...

P.quote>

It's okay, english is a very hard language to learn.  (In response to what TWrecks said)I probably should have thought about something like that at first... So I'm sorry. Thanks for this comment, really means alot. I understand how hard the BAT tool is, I was glad I found something like sketchup to use at first. If you would like to learn to BAT using the sketchup/gmax method, PM me later and I can help you out.

My BAT of WTC7, is extremely detailed, and will probably be, most likely(and hopefully) my best BAT I've done so far. It's looks odd in the picture, but that's becuase of sketchup's graphics, and the distance in the picture.

@Kellydale2003- I'm still thinking about switching, honestly I think I should wait... That upload of yours looked really good. I actually recognize it from awhile back. Can't remember what I rated it...

@TWrecks-Thanks for stepping in. I appreciate that comment. It shows us alot.

[kellydale2003 2,276]

Lol - Your not supposed to say that! but oh well, I uploaded that myself - I used a free account, so that download won't be there forever.

But it's up to you, Sketchup in my eyes is a bit harder than gmax.