How do you feel about the SCS announcement?

[K-os 30]

It's bad. You can tell its just a reskin of Caesar IV. I recognize one of the buildings in that shot. It's really similar to the standard housing in C4. Hell, I can probably tell you almost exactly how it'll play. I can tell why they called it Society, since that's what C4 revolved around. It's a freakin MOD

[brancra 1,165]

Does anyone know what the international community's reaction has been? SimCityForce(Japan), Simcity China, SC Brasil, etc.?

[drevilshenchman 4]

ya know... the screenshot looks like simcoaster but applied to a city

[joeshmoe 1]

the graphics are cartoony. this pic looks like a city in a cartoon called Jimmy Neutron

[ilikehotdogsalot 311]

yes, here is a quote from 2channeller at that mills site...

Let's see what those Japanese people say in 2ch BBS about this "Sim City 5"....

http://game11.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/game/1179064939/l50

>>591 says "City Life"

and

>>596 says the same thing as many here:

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"WT* is this unrealistically cartoonish graphics!?

Man, this is the end of Sim City...."

[CWLGAMER01 39]

Has anyone seen the "EA Deathstar" lately....... I was looking for it but misplaced mine....... :-0

[USA Patriot 49]

Okay, really. Based on the "lone" picture I've seen, I'm greatly disappionted. Why do all the building look like their from Europe in the olden days. The house has a hay covered roof it looks. Everything looks old, and then to make it stranger, a more modern looking theme park is there. There are a few cars and absolutely no pedestrains. The streets are empty. It's all too cartoony... and the old style buildings scare me. The skyline has no towers, just steeples and domes. Whats up with this? Hopefully it's just one style of many styles you can build with, like build American cities or European cities, or something, but from this image I am saddened.

Please don't let us down.

I know the creators have worked hard, and I hope they become success's, but this does not look like their success so far. I'm sorry to say that is looks not so good from that image so far.

Lets get more screenshots and info about the game before we keep saying bad things, or good things though.

[Kevin 101]

I thing that really bothers me is that this is considered Simcity 5. As far as I'm concerned, this game does not represent the next logical step in the SimCity series, and thus should not be considered the sequel to Sc4. I'm actually even fine with them using the prefix "SimCity", so long as it isn't considered the next main game in the series.

Think of it this way... Bungie made Halo 1, 2, and 3, which were First Person Shooters. Ensemble Studios is making Halo Wars, which is an RTS. Both carry the Halo name, and indeed both are about the same conflict in the same universe, but it is made very clear that Halo Wars is not the next game in the main Halo series.

This is how Societies should have been approached.

[GreekMan 246]

you are right cheese

[beebs 129]

Ok, guys. Lets all take a step back.. away from our computers.. away from SimCity.. take 5 minutes, calm down, breathe. A single screenshot that is probably from the alpha version of the game is not the end of the world. The game may end up looking like that in the final release.. it may end up blowing us out of the water with amazing graphics. We don't know what is going to happen.

Tilted Mill, however, does have a vision. They're also willing to communicate with us at Simtropolis. They aren't going to listen to our constructive suggestions if you flame and lambast them over the direction you think they're taking the game. Yes, I'm sure some of you are frustrated with EA. Yes, I'm sure some of you would love it if Maxis were producing the game. They're not, and that's life. No online petitions, boycotts and whatnot will change that.

Lets make the folks from Tilted Mill welcome here, as we would any member of the community... and as developers of a new SimCity, they truly are now members of the community.

[SimDragon 3]

My knee jerk reaction is, What were they trying to accomplish with such a lame picture and really no description of game play? The logic behind this baffles me for a franchise as big as SimCity and the huge fan base world wide that has lasted for so many years. I hope they plan to really dazzle us come the holidays. Why would you want to disappoint your potential fan base 6 months before release? Maybe by posting such a generic pic they were looking to see how hungry the fans are? Then again after reading their forum maybe they are scared about releasing a bomb.

[dedgren 830]

Before y'all get too touchy-feely with the TM folks, you might want to read what some of their crowd is posting over at their website

Sim city 4 community is a bunch of amateurs(not in negative way) who make silly simplistic little mods compared to what Half-life community is doing. Sorry, but a lot of HL mods are full brand new games. A mod like Natural Selection took more work and was harder to do that anything SC4 modding community has ever done. What SC4 modders are doing is more like skin packs for FPSes than real total-conversion modsquote>

It's nice to be nice, just watch out how far you bend over.

David

[Gman55 0]

Only an idiot would compare SimCity 4 BATs and mods to Natural Selection. I've played both and they're TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS! Just ignore them.

I don't think these people appreciate how long it takes to render and test this stuff.

[Firebird 40]

Originally posted by: dedgren Before y'all get too touchy-feely with the TM folks, you might want to read what some of their crowd is posting over at their website

Sim city 4 community is a bunch of amateurs(not in negative way) who make silly simplistic little mods compared to what Half-life community is doing. Sorry, but a lot of HL mods are full brand new games. A mod like Natural Selection took more work and was harder to do that anything SC4 modding community has ever done. What SC4 modders are doing is more like skin packs for FPSes than real total-conversion modsquote>

It's nice to be nice, just watch out how far you bend over.

Davidquote>

I'd like a link to that post.

[ilikehotdogsalot 311]

Dedgren, I am suprised that you would try to instill more negativity around here when we have a wonderful opportunity to shape the next SC game. If the game creators would like to contact us for assistance, We should take that opportunity to help them the best to our ability, and the kindest of our ability.

[hawkpride147 1]

i think a simple re-texturing of everything could go a long ways towards what we are hoping for...

[Cjah 15]

Originally posted by: dedgren Before y'all get too touchy-feely with the TM folks, you might want to read what some of their crowd is posting over at their website

Sim city 4 community is a bunch of amateurs(not in negative way) who make silly simplistic little mods compared to what Half-life community is doing. Sorry, but a lot of HL mods are full brand new games. A mod like Natural Selection took more work and was harder to do that anything SC4 modding community has ever done. What SC4 modders are doing is more like skin packs for FPSes than real total-conversion modsquote>

It's nice to be nice, just watch out how far you bend over.

Davidquote>

 

...No...I can't belive one those guys would be mocking us....

NOT HARD...I may not be a batter or moder...but what the Sim City community has done is rather amazing considering how little was given to us back in 03...

I mean the whole community...not just ST or SCC or even Pegasus...

We worked hard damn it!!!!

Now some little punk who thinks hes all Mr.pro becuz i work for TM...

pfft i bet this guy is the reason we see hay on the stupid houses next the theme park...

I don't like the tone in his posts...he reallly thinks this is something simple....

I think I need to pay their forum a little visit...I told the guys in chat i wasn't....

but these clowns crossed the line...our STEX and the rest of the custom content made by SimCity fans is much better then anything TM can produce.....

[Ntq€310 1]

i very worried, the screenshot( no offence) looks to cartoonish, i thought it was rollar coaster tycoon, or mall tycoon, but remember it's still just one screen shot, even thouugh this is a newer company, hopefully EA choose it for a reason,i would perfer maxis but we dont know what's going on behind the sceans, but for future members of the company, mabey a diffrent name, and some more realistic buildings would be better(just saying from the screenshot)

[pilotdaryl 25]

Now it would take long times to remake plugins and custom content for this upcoming SimCity. Hmm if you google it, theres tons of pages showing info on SCS!!! I doubt it will be as good as the others (most likely it will) but SimCity 4 will always be the best to me...

[dedgren 830]

hotdogs-

I am suprised that you would try to instill more negativity around here when we have a wonderful opportunity to shape the next SC game.quote>

1. There is no evidence whatsoever that TM, as nice as some folks there might seem, intend to allow anyone from this community "shape the next SC game."

2. Anyone who thinks that TM will, because people here (or anywhere else in the community) make nice, allow us to "shape the next SC game" is delusional.

3. Sim City Societies (or whatever they wind up calling it) is not the next SC game in any event. I sort of agree with the folks who are saying the line stops with SC4.

Mind you, I don't have a dog in the show. I am perfectly satisfied with SC4, think that 3-D is all the bad things that are being pointed out, have no desire to play a game involving social dynamics, and believe that if half the energy spent wishing that some new component would be in SC5 was spent going ahead and getting it into SC4, the community would be a whole lot better off. My post isn't negative in the least- I simply passed along what others in gaming community who post on TMs website are thinking by way of illustrating a point.

David

[Micah 16]

That's just one person. Please, don't begin to stereotype the Tilted Mill people.

[_MostlyHarmless 17]

Sheesh! I think everyone here needs to chill the heck out! One screen shot and a few comments sent this community in uproar. After all of your begging for SC5 to be announced it finally has arrived. Am I the only one that is curious to see how this game turns out?

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Nonplussed by all the (mythical) hype.  We shouldn't join in any stampede.

Dirk, do we have a copy of this game anywhere?  Have we tested it?  What are its machine requirements?

Do we know anything about it beyond that splashy announcement?

[amal81 3]

^ the screen-shot Looks a lot like Caesar4. So it should require slightly higher level system than what we are using for SC4.

Caesar4's minimum requirements were:

Intel® Pentium® 4 1.6 GHz or equivalent AMD® Athlon processor or higher

Windows® 2000/Windows XP Home or Professional (including Service Pack 2 or higher)

512 MB of RAM

64 MB video card (with Hardware T&L including Pixel Shader 1.1 or higher support)

2.0 GB of free hard disk space

CD-ROM Drive

DirectX® 9.0c

Mouse

Keyboard

SC5's sys requirements: (speculation)

2.0 GHz processor

1GB ram

Windows XP or upwards

128mb Graphics card with pixelshader 3.0 support for HDR lighitng

2.5/4 GB of HD space

etc...

Caesar4 uses fullscreen AA and HDR lighting, which SC4 did not.

[Cjah 15]

2.0 GHz processor

1GB ram

Windows XP or upwards

128mb Graphics card with pixelshader 3.0 support for HDR lighitng

2.5/4 GB of HD space

etc...

with specs like that...I don't think i can afford the game...i think everything is double what i already got...

[Ogedei 0]

That negative comment posted by one at my community (I'm referring to the TM community) was done by one person and only one person. We've opened a welcome thread for you SimCity fans at our forums and so far all some of you have done is attempt to lump all of us together and inundate our community with rants over one screenshot that likely isn't what the final version is going to be like. Also, don't act think you're the only ones being "victimized" here. There's also the TM fan community in this mix. I (and perhaps many other TM fans) have been really wanting an update of Caesar IV or a sequel to Children of the Nile. Because TM is occupied with working with this project now, we're not getting it.

There is no reason for any animosity between our two communities.

[mayormommy 8]

Originally posted by: Cheese89 I thing that really bothers me is that this is considered Simcity 5. As far as I'm concerned, this game does not represent the next logical step in the SimCity series, and thus should not be considered the sequel to Sc4. I'm actually even fine with them using the prefix "SimCity", so long as it isn't considered the next main game in the series.

Think of it this way... Bungie made Halo 1, 2, and 3, which were First Person Shooters. Ensemble Studios is making Halo Wars, which is an RTS. Both carry the Halo name, and indeed both are about the same conflict in the same universe, but it is made very clear that Halo Wars is not the next game in the main Halo series.

This is how Societies should have been approached.quote>

 

I entirely agree. I think a lot of this angst could have been avoided if the new game was presented as a spin-off rather than as a sequel to the Sim City series. Maybe it should have even been titled "Sim Societies." I assume EA quickly needed to add another 2007 holiday product to fill the void when Spore was postponed to 2008.

[Intrepid 20]

My first impressions of SC5 or whatever its going to be caled is indifference bordering on the slightly skeptical. I have seen just one picture of a work in progress and so far I can say that moving to 3d is a good start. Many complaints here about the graphics but I think graphics can be changed during development but that doesn't worry me. What does is the fact that this game will not work in the same way as SC4 doesand that so far is what makes me feel that I probably won't buy the new game.

What I would do is buy a game from a rival developer (perhaps maxis, since they know SC4 the most) that would continue with the concept of SC4 and advance it further, I don't mind if it has a different title (virtua City perhaps?) just as long as I can build realistic cities and micromanage (as much or as little) an economy and the other things that got me interested in SC4 in the first place.

I hope TM make the best game they can possibly do, hopefully incorporating things that the sim city communities would like to see and I won't fully judge the game until more info is released.

[Raxter 1]

Originally posted by: Cheese89 I thing that really bothers me is that this is considered Simcity 5. As far as I'm concerned, this game does not represent the next logical step in the SimCity series, and thus should not be considered the sequel to Sc4. I'm actually even fine with them using the prefix "SimCity", so long as it isn't considered the next main game in the series.

Think of it this way... Bungie made Halo 1, 2, and 3, which were First Person Shooters. Ensemble Studios is making Halo Wars, which is an RTS. Both carry the Halo name, and indeed both are about the same conflict in the same universe, but it is made very clear that Halo Wars is not the next game in the main Halo series.

This is how Societies should have been approached.quote>

Societies for the SimCity series should be the Windwaker of the Zelda Series.

[Alex7cat 0]

As someone who knows nothing about programming or software development, I am just interested to know (having seen all of the talent which has existed in modding the game) whether it would be possible for this community of die hard city creating fans with all of our hopes and wishes to create a game amongst us. I really have no idea since I am not an expert myself but I do see a lot of passion, energy and enthusiasm and wonder if this could be put to use??